Who won this trade deal?

iberia, mainly because of getting a headstart on colonization for catholicism
really Anatolia is much better land, but muslims turned it into a shithole so Spain takes the cake. it really is one of the best positions in the world for a country

There isnt one youre speaking to a subject of iberian conquests

Though Latin America is a more important region than Indonesia and Malaysia

I think you are still thinking in the short term here, because the southeast asia region is arguably the most valuable land on earth

South east asia is extremely valuable and rich

Because of trade lanes? Because that's about the only one i can imagine that they beat out the entirety of south and central america in.

Anon earlier is right.
Spain/Portugal Christisnised half the world with their conquests, without that there would be like 3-4 times less Catholics today

There shouldn’t have had to have been a trade deal in the first place both Iberia and Anatolia should have remained the way they were.

Ultimately the subhumans prevailed in ruining Anatolia and turning it into a mestizo racial abomination while Iberia was restored

What the fuck are you talking about

the world lost

He means that both used to be christian, so it wasn't exactly a trade, just a loss

Spain and Portugal went on to discover the new world which led to the colonization of the Americas while the Turks got their ass handed to them by Russia and Germany. In terms of world and historical impact. Spain and Portugal did more.

you're just a rape baby

but latin america is a failed continent

While the end of the ere is a tragedy fact is the city was a dying shithole and it improved when mehmed and his goons were done pillaging it after the conquest.

this
Anglos were right about everything
Spain was wrong about everything

Stop romanticizing Byzantines. They were the Russia of the middle ages.

That's assuming that Iberian Muslims would explore the new world. They still had Egypt and Levant to trade with Asia, so no need to find new trade routes.

Well Iberian peninsula is better off than turkey and all of Magri land so they won

No it became a subhuman shithole slum yes with large population but still

le russia

Still infinitely more civilized and populated and racially endowed than what came after a depopulated subhuman shithole

Spain is one of the most atheist countries in Europe and Turkey will get there in a few generations. They both kind of lost

no idea, anatolia was always a shithole wasn't just changed hands or something? always a war torn shithole, anything that's close to shitskins rots away really, let alone be infested by it.

Imagine Islamic South America.

That's what people should have learned from the past of Empires and conquest. Extermination leads to no complaining and whining in the future.

España

Before Spain joined the war

The Turks invaded the Balkans
They bullied Venice in six consecutive wars, taking Thessaloniki, Albania, Cyprus, and the Cyclades
Piracy off the coasts of the rest of Italy and southern France

Spain appears

Battle of Lepanto, end of Turkish rule over the Mediterranean and beginning of the century of European colonization
A full-scale war against the Turks begins in Central Europe

Why?

Juana the Mad of Spain had 5 children
Charles I of Spain (the most famous)
Eleanor, Queen of France
Elizabeth, Queen of Denmark
Mary, Queen of Hungary (casus belli)
Ferdinand I of the Holy Roman Empire (the war begins)
Catalina, Queen of Portugal

The Ottoman invasion of the Kingdom of Maria (Hungary) is the casus belli.

Due to the lineage of the Spanish kings, the Habsburg-Ottoman Wars began at the hands of Ferdinand I of the Holy Roman Empire.

With 21,000 men, they defeated 100,000 Ottomans under Suleiman the Magnificent at the Siege of Vienna.
This boy laid the foundations of the Austro-Hungarian Empire by becoming king of Austria, Hungary, Bohemia, and Croatia.

His descendants would continue the war.
His great-great-grandson Leopold I faced the largest Muslim army since the time of Saladin, with the support of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.

The Battle of Kahlenberg marked a turning point in European history: it halted the expansion of the Ottoman Empire, which stopped expanding across Europe, and little by little, Austria, Hungary, Russia, and Poland began to seize territories from the Ottomans.

Without the Roman Empire, we would all be muslims though. There was no other force that could stop the most evil religion of humanity.

Most common placename in Latam is Cordoba. It is assumed a disproportional amount of settlers from Spain were expelled moors

You sound retarded

This is wrong. Western-Europe already had a massive population and the strongest military might.
Arabs could only take the lands that were closest to them and furthest from us, an actual incursion into Europe would never hold if countries like France, Sweden, Germany and England were to mobilise.

Though Latin America is a more important region than Indonesia and Malaysia

I am from LatAm and I do not believe this.

I get you have your beef against russians or whatever, but that's protestant level of seething.

islam would simply become degenerate as it did in al-andalus, bosnia and albania

The spanish and portuguese had to explore for trade routes because the ottomans were taxing the silk road

But USA and England were the ones who destroyed latin america

Byzantium was a decaying, backstabbing shithole

Byzantium was like that only because Venetians had done one of the greatest backstabs in history some centuries earlier.

this part is false