Is Moscow the most underrated city in Europe?

Is Moscow the most underrated city in Europe?

plenty of high-paying jobs

very developed infrastructure

cheap, high quality services

safe and clean

rich in culture and history

ethnically homogenous

It's like they combined all the pros of western and eastern Europe without the cons

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Moscow isn't in Europe.

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plenty of high-paying jobs

ethnically homogenous

Is Moscow the most underrated city in Europe?

that's Kyiv unironically

full of churka guest workers who might rob and kill you

full of cops who are there to control the churkas but will also shake you down for bribe money

full of gangsters and oligarchs whom you have to pay off to get any business done, permits approved or even to receive certain basic services taken for granted in the West

prices for many items especially foreign imports are among highest in the world

summer is nice but all other times of the year it is a dark depressing shithole full of suicidal alcoholics and dirty roads full of slush

8 facts about rusgolia and rusgoloids:

1) only 10% of russhits earn more than 1000€ net per month:
banki.ru/news/lenta/?id=11010788

2) this is precisely the same percent as in Brazil:
statista.com/statistics/1294770/average-income-by-percentile-brazil/

3) in Mudscow, "the best city of Europe," this figure is merely 45%:
riarating.ru/infografika/20241118/630272187.html

4) the median wage in Romania (including rural towns) is 1.5 times higher than in Mudscow:
remotepeople.com/countries/romania/average-salary/

5) while 35% of russhits don't own any property at all, only 12% of homeowners have more than 100k€ in property:
novostroy-rf.ru/news/bolee-60-rossiyan-vladeyut-sobstvennym-zhilem/

6) only 10% of the cars russhits own cost more than 10k€ (only 3%, more than 20k€):
news.drom.ru/86664.html

7) only 4% of russhits have more than 15k€ in savings, while 52% don't have any:
romir.ru/studies/rossiyane-o-sberejeniyah

8) the average amount of savings in russhitia is 1500€ (median, 300€), while the average amount of debt is 8000€ (median, 2000€):
moneytimes.ru/news/bank/42165/

Not remotely underrated. The stratospheric overrating by Muscovites and their buttbuddies more than compensates for the complete indifference shown by literally everyone else.

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1 he will never leave kamchatka because he's a poor fag
2 chmordvix real name is ilya mironenko

actually true

I mean, Moscow is definitely the best what Russia has to offer but by European standards it's just mediocre. Obviously it has some "wow" things but it's a 15 million city after all. When you walk around regular Moscow neighborhoods, you just see typical Russian poverty with typical poorly maintained commieblocks with yellow gas pipes hanging on the walls without any kind of safety measures

by European standards it's just mediocre

umm no?

See you lying faggot.
I'm richer than 90% of russhits you imbecile projecting subanimal. Last response to you ever.

its probably the best 10+ mln city

because the other two have become borderline uninhabitable

Good riddance

yes it is, just most Russians have never been to Europe so they have this weird cult of Moscow
if they ever could step into whatever regular German or French middle class neighborhood and they compare it to how Moscow middle class lives (aka shitty commieblocks) then they'd understand
just watch whatever Varlamov's video

yes it is, just most Russians have never been to Europe so they have this weird cult of Moscow

Actually we have saint petersburg cult, not Moscow. It's the most beautiful city on earth after all. As for me, I've been to Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Germany, Greece and Spain, wasn't quite impressed by what I saw. The amount of shitskins in Germany was staggering, Spain and Greece are the nicest of them, and the rest look like Petrozavodsk.

whole of moscow is basically like the poorest ghetto of paris

I've been to Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Germany, Greece and Spain

Lying faggot lmao. Reminder only 18% of russhits have passport, the rest CANNOT live zigeria.
Truth nuke.

L-LIES

Unlike you, I live near the border with Finland and was in Europe multiple times.

Is Moscow the

Whore capital of Europe. Yes

Show ID with time stamp lets see if you're Russian.

Based. Keep cooking russobro

Your sisters work there, Kalsyan?

just most Russians have never been to Europe so they have this weird cult of Moscow

From personal experience it's more like people idealize the rest of Europe but when they actually visit it they change their mind. I personally think it's mostly because they visit migrant-infested capitals such as Paris with hobos and rats which naturally shocks them but still. Moscow is objectively one of the top Evropean cities just by sheer amount of money poured into its improvement

>ethnically homogenous

What a copium. Half of Moscow's population is central asian.

why do they buildings have the same architecture as shitholes in romania?

2019

This is the capital of Lithuania, a,NaTO and EU country.

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Evropean cities just by sheer amount of money poured into its improvement

AHAHAHAHAHAHA this is why sidewalks commieblocks and roads are falling apart?

we're not talking about the ethnic composition of these cities but simply what the cities themselves look

one of the top Evropean cities just by sheer amount of money poured into its improvement

it simply doesn't help because no matter how clean your streets can be, it won't change the fact than an average French person lives in a cozy, stylish terraced house or a 19th century tenement house with beautiful decorations, while an average Muscovite lives in a run down commieblock

to improve that you'd have to demolish 3/4 of Moscow and replace that with detached/terraced housing. But as far as I know, while they do sometimes demolish old commieblocks, they just replace 5-floor khrushchovkas with 25-floor putinkas which only makes things worse

Umm no?

average French person lives in a cozy, stylish terraced house or a 19th century tenement house with beautiful decorations

I don't even know where to start my man

It's a common Eastern European baroque style, everything from Prague over Bucharest will have similar buildings.

Slovakia has more prostitutes than Ukraine and Czechia, the whorehouses of the planet

And this is how you know this map is bullshit.

Yes you live in a fucking poorfag provincial town (leningrad) and earn 500€ you fucking filth.
Start from not being a broke subhuman.

Spain and Greece are the nicest of them,

yes this guy 100% been to europe

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You just dumb

Bro no way you left your town more than thrice with such a rhetoric, stfu

average French person lives in a cozy, stylish terraced house or a 19th century tenement house with beautiful decorations, while an average Muscovite lives in a run down commieblock

If you take the whole country, mayyyybe. In urban areas - definitely not. Same for Germany.

this is not barque retarded
also theirs so such thing as eastern architecture besides russian

Same for Germany.

germans don't even OWN their houses don't compare yourself to french you stupid gypsy

You don't have a passport, you don't have any savings, your salary is 2 times lower than the minimal one in Poland. Seethe you filth.

I live in Arkhangelsk and earn $1100 dollars though. Dilate.

In urban areas - definitely not.

i meant urban areas
even in big cities like Paris max 20% of them live in actual modernist commieblocks and that's mostly the poorest part of the society, middle class lives in something like this:
google.com/maps/@48.8222086,2.5632612,3a,90y,354.78h,81.62t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sMjHNGZo2ZvAJJRSeTP3gUg!2e0!6shttps://streetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com/v1/thumbnail?cb_client=maps_sv.tactile&w=900&h=600&pitch=8.384341782721961&panoid=MjHNGZo2ZvAJJRSeTP3gUg&yaw=354.77527237050697!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDUwNi4wIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNDU1SAFQAw==

this type of housing is almost non-existent in Russia, especially in Moscow

Big if true tranny, almost the minimal Polish wage!

Oh no it seems you're a liar tranny and only 17% of workers earn that much there! So sad.

Rouble is artificially devalued thanks to sanctions, it's dumb to measure our economy and salaries in euros and dollars, Chmordvix.

There's like a 12% difference knee grow.

That's definitely not affordable nowadays in Paris.

question to Russians, does Moscow have streets like this?

google.com/maps/@52.2644259,20.9830667,3a,75y,41.3h,89.41t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sOSAEG7LRSqvuhHmWzdsCYA!2e0!6shttps://streetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com/v1/thumbnail?cb_client=maps_sv.tactile&w=900&h=600&pitch=0.5913241774968725&panoid=OSAEG7LRSqvuhHmWzdsCYA&yaw=41.297788944848094!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDUwNi4wIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNDU1SAFQAw==

ofc I mean regular, non-gated communities, just average streets where everyone can enter and no one locks his doors, puts iron bars on the windows etc.

Cope

Rouble is artificially devalued thanks to sanctions, it's dumb to measure our economy and salaries in euros and dollars, Chmordvix.

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

There's like a 12% difference knee grow.

ignore that 10% of french own second home highest in europe and that germans own a 50 meter cuckbox instead of a home in a suburb and you are correct

That's definitely not affordable nowadays in Paris.

it isn't supposed to be "affordable", this is exactly middle class housing
obviously not every immigrant from Africa can buy a house in that place after 2 years of working in Amazon's warehouse in Paris' suburbs, that's not the point

ignore that 10% of french

That's cool. But not much.

germans own a 50 meter cuckbox

No, almost all of owned property is homes. Apartment ownership barely exists, partially due to laws.

A double average income household couldn't either - and most earn less. Maybe there was such a time, now it's definitely not the case.

A double average income household couldn't either - and most earn less. Maybe there was such a time, now it's definitely not the case.

but still a large part of (actually most) Parisians live in housing like this, while most Moscovians do not

Not even close.

Here, I actually found the data. Scroll down to LOG G1 - like 80% of housing in Ile-de-France is flats.
insee.fr/en/statistiques/6455996?geo=REG-11

GSV is misleading cause single family homes naturally take up far, far more space.

As for the facades, you can find everything from Haussmann style buildings to commieblocks in Ile-de-France, but Haussmann buildings are a small minority.

is flats.

but most of them aren't in actual post-WW2 commieblocks like in Moscow, but in either pre-WW2 housing or even if modernist ones - still mostly low, high-quality housing

Dude the communal infrastructure in pre-ww2 housing is trash, it might sound romantical but it's not in practice

>plenty of high-paying jobs

Doubt

There's no statistic for that tbqh. As I've said, it has everything aplenty -- from some of Europes most dreadful ghettoes to historical luxury housing.

Russia would be a cool country if it weren't for the damned oligarchs who generate all the flaws and problems for Russia

do you know that there is something like modernization and periodic upkeep which is something firstie nations commonly do?
only eastern european shitholes leave a building without any proper maintenance for 70 years and then can't understand why it looks shitty

hey Russians, answer

do you know that there is something like modernization and periodic upkeep

Why would you assume this happens at sufficient scale in countries where several people take bath in one filled bathtub

only 10% of russhits earn more than 1000€ net per month

90%+ of russians slave their lives away to earn less than that of my neetbux income

Grim

Actually the best way to upgrade a building is to demolish it and build something new instead.
Only retarded rightoid incels disagree. New>>>>old always. Same reason why Led Zeppelin sucks and Van Halen doesn’t.

Non-gated communities are not common because the demand for parking space is so extreme people tend to isolate their space

so this alone is enough to know that Moscow isn't really good
a good city is when rich and poor people coexist in the same space without huge barriers, walls and gates

Whatever you say commie

Older soviet districts weren't designed for this amout of vehicles, newer ones are built (via corruption at times) to squeeze out profit thus making density obnoxiously high

rich and poor people coexist

Retarded criteria made out of thin air

He always uses old articles, things are different now.

Russia is 3rd world

so they have this weird cult of Moscow

Nigga, most of the people from regions hate Moscow. What are you talking about?

they hate it in the sense so they're jealous of it
it's just like theoretically all French people hate Paris, but still are proud of how important Paris is to the world

they're jealous of it

No, people hate it because it gets most of the money from the regions and Moscow dwellars are arrogant as fuck to other parts of Russia, pretending it doesn't exist.

most of the people from regions hate Moscow

Not true

well, that's just one trashbin, that should be easily fixable, the whole neighborhood looks very nice imo

t. Moscow dwellar

weird to think if Russia was still in its 1914 borders, Poland would be Russia's Switzerland and Russian liberal elites would come to our cities to see "how people live in the west".

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If you’re poor it’s your own fault lol, try having a relevant job

You don't like Moscow because you're le poor

Kek
Only Moscow dwellar could say that.

You’re poor, or a kike, or a Ukrainian or some other form of a subhuman which explains your shitty views

Cry me a river.

Projections. Only muscovites think that everyone hates them or something