Is Cincinnati a prime example of a peak comfy US city to live in?

The city is named after the Roman general Cincinnatus.

I think isn’t completely out of line, but he’s exaggerating the negatives at least a bit. There’s definitely some visible decay and slumminess to be found in Cincinnati, and obviously there’s a ton of obesity, because America (although I thought the South was the most obese region, rather than the Midwest; doesn’t matter much). But having passed through the city multiple times when I was living in the States (I grew up there, although nowhere near Ohio), I found it generally pretty okay. The physical plant (skyline, central-city architecture and density, major infrastructure) is decent and even appealing in some quarters, it’s fairly cheap, and there’s at least some stuff to see, do, and eat there. But it’s small and kind of provincial, like most of the Midwest, and for a supposedly urban center, public transportation is shit by international standards (like almost all of the USA).

I’ve got two friends who moved to the area to take jobs at P&G, both landing in moderately affluent suburbs, and they both seem to like the place well enough.

I’ve also visited Cleveland, which is often sort of a punchline among Americans, and it was better than I was expecting, too.

But what do you consider comfy? I moved around quite a bit during my years in America, and the one obvious universal truth about the place is that almost anywhere can be comfortable if you’ve got enough money, and almost anywhere can be unbearable if you’re broke. But not everywhere has all of the same stuff—relative satisfaction with any US city is a product of what you’re unwilling to live without and what you don’t want or need.

You have good taste. It is. Pleasant setting on a river surrounded by rolling/forested hills. Good sports scene, good beer/bar scene, the exurb/suburbs are decentralized in an interesting way, like little islands, so you can visit different parts for different experiences. Decent economy with good incomes vs. the cost of living, ethical midwestern culture with a little bit of southerner mixed in. Only issue is the ghetto parts, as usual.

Cincinnatus, read a damn book

Same problem that every American city has, a population of blacks

Don't listen to that stupid nigger. Your average Cincinnatian lives in a house like this with 2-3 kids and he's going to call that "poverty" from his cuck shack in Cali or NY.

I'm from Ohio and would absolutely say this is the best city/region in the state. Anywhere from south of Dayton down to Newport KY.

Thank god they all migrated north in the 40's/50's/60's or else we could have utopia, that would be terrible

Is not that pretty expensive for Ohio salaries?

Obesity

Literally who cares if other people are fat?

Urban decay

Much less than NY or LA

Poverty

Same

thats how much a run down home on the coast of croatia will set you back

Would I be accepted there? My Step dad (American) is moving there for work and has suggested that I should go with him

No. $2.7k monthly payment. Usually the household is dual earner, let's say $90k total household income, that's $5,740 per month, over double.

And I don't know anyone who makes only $90k combined, the middle class here in Ohio makes like $100-150k combined. If we're talking Cincinnati most people there have decent jobs, they aren't stuck out in the woods working at Dollar General.

People are highly amused by British folk here, it would actually be an asset

Sure but that is a holiday destination and American real estate tend to be brutally cheap

Here that money would get you something nice around the capital suburbs definitely but even in the cheaper areas the square meter would be smaller

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This one would be 45 minutes away from the city, zero public transport around there as it is a small village

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This one is 40 minutes away by car but there are transit options at least

It is unbelievable how cheap America is. The only disadvantage is the material, those ply wood houses look really bad, especially with the fake brick facade

how do you think of cleveland?

Man I just realized the first home was a twin-house, not even the whole thing

Other side of the river is a bit more affordable but still brutal
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It is unreal how bad the situation is here

Then why the fuck is everyone moving to Cali or NY while they can buy a nice and big house for half the price of what they’d pay for some small condo in NY? Is it because of the job shortage in some fields (like STEM etc?) or anything else?

They do not. At least not to New York. New York had a net negative internal emigration for a long time, it gets compensated by foreigners moving in but the overall balance is still negative

That being said if I moved to the US I would love to live in Los Angeles

There are so many medium sized or small cities in the US (Raleigh, Charlotte, Indianapolis etc) none talks about, but from what I’ve seen the houses there are way cheaper than in other places. Why don’t Americans want to live there?

Why LA and not some medium sized city? LA seems to be way more expensive and you can afford more things when you live somewhere else

you can afford more things when you live somewhere else

What would be more important than the environment where you live in? If I moved to a foreign country I would choose an area where I would love to live duh

All of the places you mentioned are rapidly growing

They aren't. The southeast has been booming. With that said, Ohio gets a bit of a bad rap because it's "boring" and a farmer state. But obviously there are parts that are quite nice and liveable like the southwest. People in America are highly motivated by exciting things, Europeans would probably appreciate the midwest far more as it's more conventional and comfy.

It gets colder up there but it's still fine, there are some really nice suburb towns/communities in the greater Cleveland area.

Depends on your goals. I would rather have stable, affordable life where I don’t spend 70% of my paycheck on bills and can actually save and buy things I like while living in a small city than live in world famous places like LA paycheck to paycheck

This is what living in a tertiary city (i.e., Indianapolis) in America looks like. Not very fun for young people. Can you understand why they move to the coasts instead?

Thanks! I wanted to ask because I've been looking it up on Cleveland on the internet.

I liked Iowa City/Cedar Rapids when I visited last year. It was comfy, surprisingly cultured, well maintained. Lots of horny college girls to dick down.

Unless there are huge job shortages and rampant crime and not even one place you can spend this money in I see nothing wrong there

because thats where hollywood and all their favorite influencers live. people are fucking retarded.

while they can buy a nice and big house

they get that in LA. it's literally spawl: the city. LA Noire hit the nail on the head
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You see nothing wrong with complete social isolation? No one is making new friends in those types of places. All social circles are from high school/college. If you're a non-local you will be alone, forever.

holy fucking skill issue. if you want to socialize, socialize. shoehorn your way into social circles.

There are so many medium sized or small cities in the US (Raleigh, Charlotte, Indianapolis etc) none talks about,

I’m not sure who you’ve been talking to, but I hear people talking about Raleigh and Charlotte quite often. And one of the places I lived in the USA was in the Raleigh area (I was in the nearby, historically less desirable city of Durham for a few years while my now-wife was in graduate school). The Raleigh area is a growing center for the tech and biotech sectors, and Charlotte has been an important financial center for a long time—both have seen huge domestic immigration and growth. I know almost nothing about Indy, though.

but from what I’ve seen the houses there are way cheaper than in other places.

The thing about places with lower housing prices and lower costs of living in general is that in most of them, average salaries are also comparatively/correspondingly lower. And in some cases, that comes with greater legacy poverty levels and associated educational and infrastructural disadvantages, even where economic growth is underway. Where average salaries are increasing and economies are growing (as in NC), the local deficiencies get reduced with time, but the costs obviously go up, as well. NC costs close to twice as much as it did when I was there.

Why don’t Americans want to live there?

Some of them obviously do. But there are a range of constraints. Most smaller cities with attractive jobs are going to be good destinations for only a relatively limited number of industries. Some won’t like the climate (NC can be oppressively hot and sticky in the summer). Some are looking for different infrastructure (NC is extremely sprawling and suburban, with increasingly bad traffic). And there are cultural, lifestyle, and political factors of a million distinct varieties that make people more or less interested in a place.

I don't think affordability is as much of an issue as the internet makes it out to be honestly, at least for renting
Like look
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2.2k in New York does not seem that much

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2.4k in LA

Charlotte is not that cheap. Townhouses near the center go for over $1M.

You'll generally have to pay $600k for a townhouse unless you want to live in the outer suburbs. They don't even build new single family homes in the city limits of Charlotte any more, only in outer suburbs that are a 40 minute drive to the center.
Raleigh is pretty much just suburbs, the main employment center is an office park in that was located between the 3 main universities in the region, but not near any populated area.

Charlotte has some urban neighborhoods in the center, and while its residentially sprawled, jobs and entertainment are concentrated in the center.

I've heard great things about Charlotte and Raleigh. A lot of my coworkers who come from the south have their homebase in those two cities (many travel throughout the year and spend about 4 months back home)