White people unironically feel closer to their diaspora born and raised in foreign countries than immigrants born...

after you moshe

no, i mean the assimilated ones
you wouldn't accept them as germans unless they look kinda white, but accept german americans even though they were raised in american culture and only speak english

A Jew in the UK feels more kinship with a Jew in Brazil than another Englishman

Yes, I mean the assimilated ones. They “assimilate” in the sense that they speak better German than Turkish and know how things work in Germany. We are still segregated outside the workplace. The only Turks I’ve known in casual settings were all secular mutts whose parents immigrated all the way back in the 60s-70s. Those are a minority.

Yes I relate more to my race regardless of location we were born. Indians are never going to be my people, even if we grew up in the same neighborhood and went to the same schools. It's still wildly different.

and that's a bad thing
this is just straight up racism, a german-turk who was born in germany, spent his entire life with germans and only happen to speak turkish as a second language is closer to than other germans around the world

I thought it was the opposite? Nguvu who landed in dublin last week is more irish than sean o'mick from boston

I’ve met an American born and raised in Saudi Arabia who acted like the most archetypal red-blooded American.

America is different. We're not a "people" and there are people all over the world who act like Americans because of cultural influence, particularly through the english-speaking internet.

I like seeing pan-white Chunguses get rug pulled. Some American sponsored an Afrikaner family only to get scammed out of 30k.

And regardless of that fact (which I agree with) he still acted distinctly American. Despite spending most of his life in Saudi Arabia. That should activate your almonds.

Hey, man, I don’t disagree that it’s technically racism, but you can’t force people to interact with each other. Like, nobody’s forcing the Turks to stay within their own community. Those who don’t intermarry and all that. That’s why I mentioned all the half-German half-Turkish people I’ve met. They made the decision to abandon their roots. The other Turks didn’t. I respect both because it’s their personal decision.

Obviously, immigrants like turkroaches segregate into parallel societies in the western countries they have decided to infest. Why should I feel even remotely close to them just because they have decided to destroy my country? Because they speak broken Swedish kek?

Kek
Nigga
YOU are the diaspora

ebonics

Boy you ain't right talking bout sum ebonics like man what is you thinking

This is racism

Sounds more like the fault of second and third gen migrants who STILL keep sticking with their own kind only.

THOU ART THE DIASPORA

NIGGA

they are living in their ghettos european society is not immigrant friendly enough, if you would be more inclusive and acceptive towards them there would be no need for immigrant neighbourhoods living outside of german society
this is also the result of your racism

they are living in their ghettos *because* european society is not immigrant friendly enough

Lets see how syrians and other arabs live in Turkroachland

Turks are islamized Greeks so this proves that germs are Nordicists

you have to make it friendlier to immigrants because… you just do ok? It’s your fault they stubbornly remain in their ghettos

Literally not my fucking problem. Everyone does this shit here. Turks, Russians, Poles, Romanians, Arabs. Everyone. I don’t care as long as they know the language, have a job, pay taxes, and don’t break laws.

Are Romanians beautiful with tastefully shaped feet and jet black hair

They live in ghettos because they refuse to assimilate with the local culture. If you move to a country YOU need to make the effort to become apart of it. That means learning the language, embrace the values and traditions of said country and not holding on to your old sandnigger ways.

Yet turkroaches see themselves as turks foremost.

Literally not my fucking problem.

yeah it's my fault expecting a white Anon to not be racist

You’re racist if you let people make their own decisions and don’t babysit them like retards.

Ok, tankie.

I have literally no loyalty to this country, or those inside of it. I am only loyal to family and friends. My tribe and village were erased from existence a very long time ago, so I have nothing else. If every single American but me died tomorrow, I wouldn't give a shit outside of the obvious inconvenience the ensuing global catastrophe poses. I don't know these people. I have nothing in common with them except for a language and geography, and it's not like you get to choose those things. Just because it's my first language doesn't mean I feel connected to it. Just because I live in this land doesn't mean I feel connected to it. They don't form parts of my identity at all. I don't give a shit about American culture and values, I don't try to fit in, I will flagrantly defy social norms at the disgust of others because of how little I care about this place and the strange plastic people.

I'm sure this sounds like a hellish, alienating existence but not really. I have a strong identity, my ancestors visit me in my dreams. I'm happy and comfy in life. I want for nothing. I do not feel a desire to be connected to any land, or any language. It's just that if I had to give up being "American" I wouldn't care because it's not even a tiny fragment of my identity. If it was possible to learn a language at the snap of a finger, I could move to any other shithole and feel the same way as I do about living here.

If you move to a country YOU need to make the effort to become apart of it

even though they constantly threaten to kill you and kick your family out

That means learning the language, embrace the values and traditions of said country

if immigrants walk two steps towards you, you also have to walk at least one step towards them
if they sacrifice their time and learn your language, assimilate into your country for a bit, work for your country, then you should be learning something about their culture to create a better and inclusive society living in peace with beauties of different cultures

Well yes, of course

Nigger, if you don’t like it here, don’t come to the evil racist West. Kindly fuck off. You’re the type of nigger AfD wants to get rid of and normal Turks who just live here without spouting woke bullshit get lumped in with retards like you. Literally shooting yourself in the foot. Want to be treated like a German? Stop hanging out exclusively with your Turk friends and make a fucking effort to integrate. I’m not going to prostrate myself like some George Floyd apologist going “pwease be my friend uwu”. Get fucked.

i thought they got rid of nazi subhumans like you 80 years ago

even though they constantly threaten to kill you and kick your family out

Absolutely retarded mental gymnastics. Drop your victim mentality you fucking turkroach. Nobody fucking does this shit. This isn't the US. For every kraut that threatens a turk there have been 10 turks threatening krauts.

if immigrants walk two steps towards you, you also have to walk at least one step towards them

if they sacrifice their time and learn your language, assimilate into your country for a bit, work for your country, then you should be learning something about their culture to create a better and inclusive society living in peace with beauties of different cultures
If you want to come here it's YOUR FUCKING JOB to make sure you assimilate. The local population owes you absolutely fucking nothing you entitled piece of shit. This is Sweden, not Turkey. Leave behind your old ways if you want to become part of this country or fuck off back. Why should I feel anything but contempt towards your kin when all you have done to this country is destroying it? Do you sandniggera think you take two step forward by going to riots as soon as some random fuck burns your holy book and having constant bombings? Get the fuck out of here. You literally have inferior moral values and cultures, why the fuck should we embrace it here?

Sorry I don’t prostrate myself to leftist niggers who want to neurotically control every aspect of society like pre-climax women. Guess that makes me an evil nazi.

even though they constantly threaten to kill you and kick your family out

Yes, it's a normal and healthy mechanism of a society. It's a shittest, to use incel jargon. If a society is on a backslide, there's nothing you can do to pass the shittest, so watch your ass.

if immigrants walk two steps towards you, you also have to walk at least one step towards them

Not at all. The good people of society only have the duty to tolerate your missteps and ignorance. The bad people of society owe you nothing. Neither group owes you adoption of whatever BS you bring with you.

then you should be learning something about their culture to create a better and inclusive society living in peace with beauties of different cultures

Literally nobody owes you that.

this is based. nations are synthetic things, created by humans. there are no nations in future and i'm saying this unironically, your mentality is far beyond our time. this is why america is winning and other nation-states are losing.
what's your ethnicity?

You will never be American.

there are some other ideologies between being a nazi scum and being a cringe apologist, you know?
like being a healthy normal human being who understands struggles of immigrants, accepts them into their society and helps them adapting into society
maybe you should try that, it's good
you already talking like you want to skin me alive and only thing i said was you should be more acceptive and respect people who left their countries to work and provide for your country
i can't even imagine what you think about innocent turks you see on streets

this is why america is winning

What alternate reality are you from kek? I agree though, "nation-states" are just concepts with no basis in reality.

you should be learning something about their culture

Kek, you're the one moving into their land. You should learn about their culture and assimilate, not merge both cultures. Look at how well that worked out for America.

Do they really?

you already talking like you want to skin me alive and only thing i said was you should be more acceptive and respect people who left their countries to work and provide for your country

i can't even imagine what you think about innocent turks you see on streets
You mean the people that actively choose to not make the effort of assimilating into our country and society but instead congregate into parallel societies of their own kin bringing with them all the garbage their values and cultures consider acceptable here?

Do you realize how immensely Sweden has been destroyed by you people? And you think you can play the victim here? Or do you juat think Swedes, who pays for literally everything from housing to school to healthcare, are somehow to blame for you people raping our women, bombing our suburbs and rioting over islam nonsense?

You literally called me a nazi for saying it’s people’s personal responsibility for integrating. I even explicitly said I have no problem with the ones staying in their own communities if they otherwise are functioning members of society. But I’m racist because I don’t want to neurotically tell people whom they should and shouldn’t hang out with. That’s fucking rich.

What do you propose, realistically? If you come up to a group of Turks in a shisha bar and start telling them how they should go hang out with Germans, they’ll tell you to fuck off. Likewise with the Germans. I don’t see a solution other than enforcing some Stalinist totalitarianism where people are all sent to gulags for daring to not speaking with every other ethnicity in their immediate vicinity.

Lebanese, Maronite, Canaanite, Gebalite, and so on depending on how far back you want to go. The further back, the more tender the feelings.

You mean the people that actively choose to not make the effort of assimilating into our country and society but instead congregate into parallel societies of their own kin bringing with them all the garbage their values and cultures consider acceptable here?

they do try to adapt but usually dorks like you cause them to stay isolated in their hoods
your kids bully them in school, you murder them and attack their stores, your politicians threaten to kick them out and get millions of votes and you try to act the victim

Do you realize how immensely Sweden has been destroyed by you people?

oh yes, sweden has been suffering a lot since they started to exploit 3rd world immigrants' cheap workforce, those poor swedes...

who pays for literally everything from housing to school to healthcare

guess immigrants don't pay taxes!

are somehow to blame for you people raping our women, bombing our suburbs and rioting over islam nonsense

swedes are innocent little angels who don't commit crimes? i'm not even mentioning the fact that us turks never do such things because we are talking about immigrants internationally

Ah, you're just ragebaiting!

literally all you have to do is just

harshly educate germans to be more acceptive and supportive towards immigrants on their way to integration

don't let immigrants create their own isolated groups, integrate them by soft force if needed

but you also want them to stay away from you because you don't want them to become one of you

oh my god, is this really you? you forgot to call me a roach this time. delete this and give me an another reply where you use that word or people think you are a cringe woke leftist.

No, nigger, I don’t have to do anything and I don’t owe anyone shit. I understand that the notion of personal freedom might be very foreign to you, but that’s how we do things here. I don’t have to do anything for anyone in this country, regardless if they’re German, Turk, Russian, African, Bhutanese or whatever the fuck. They’re adults and they’re capable of making their own decisions. What you described is typical Oriental despotism of pretending people are niggercattle whom the government needs to kindly “educate” or forbid them from forming closed communities. That’s fundamentally against the Western notion of liberty. Would likely be anti-constitutional too,

The turk you are responding to is likely a troll baiting you but he is right one point, integration goes both ways. Alongside immigrants needing to change their ways the natives at least have to be willing to accept people. Most europeans rather have immigrants not assimilate and distance themselves than to have them assimilate and have to mix with them.
I worked in europe for a year and I could see the contempt and resentment directly. People changed as soon as they realize I am from Turkey. I had people suddenly stopping to talk, turning their heads or trying to shittalk, like challenge my education and project their superiority complex. I swear I encounter less racism 4chuds here.

Me being an atheist liberal (in european sense), me being raised up with western classics/philosophy/art, me having a masters meant absolutely nothing. To them all mena diaspora are some weird musulmanic low iq orc. There comes a part where I couldn't blame their past experiences with diaspora. A fellow Brazillian expat told me that the only way to integrate into european society as a foreigner is to accept your 2nd class inferior status and only people with inferiority complex do that. I wonder whether diaspora, already low iq and come from low status rural areas became even more obnoxious as a way of defense mechanism. I find turkish diaspora to be extremely weird and can find many faults in them too, I absolutely don't absolve them from their sins. But I wanted to work in europe because I wanted to live in a place with european values, liberalism etc, not because I wanted more money. I realized said values only extend to other europeans and no one else.

at least have to be willing to accept people

I accept immigrants here and have no problem with them. I have them at my workplace and there are no tensions. We just don’t hang out in casual settings. Just how it is. Sorry it doesn’t align with the woke utopia that lives rent free in your brain. I can’t do anything about it and I don’t want the government to needlessly interfere. There’s enough of that in this country already.

Most europeans rather have immigrants not assimilate

That’s objectively false. Nobody here complains about immigrants speaking flawless German, acting German, and living in German neighborhoods. People have a problem with the exact opposite type of people.

To them all mena diaspora are some weird musulmanic low iq orc

I haven’t encountered that but I live in a globohomo city and have a respectable job. Could absolutely be a thing in some bumfuck Poopenfarten shithole, no doubt.

Well I am also very white looking (inb4 >turks >white) so most people don't realize I was a turk and were very cordial to me but that stopped as soon as they realized I was from Turkey. If you could change your name to mehmet for a while maybe you can understand.
Look I'm not saying all Europeans are racist but there is absolutely an invisible barrier that no matter what immigrants (from certain places) do that they can never pass. For many europeans an ukranian rural gentleman who barely speaks a1 level will be valued more than a indian doctor. Because former is european and latter is not. This was evident in 2022. I feel there is a social contract between natives and immigrants. Despite governments attempt to attract skilled labor, what natives think is quite different.

We don't care whether you work or not, pay taxes or not, obey laws or not, religious or not. You will never be in the club. Accept this or fuck off

I think this is one reason why europe struggles with finding high skilled immigrants. Most of my friends to moved to europe either moved back, or moved elsewhere (mostly to Canada/Australia). A friend of mine told me he doesn't want his son to grow up there and face discrimination based on his skin and name and I can't blame him. I know many syrian doctors who fled turkey to work in germany but only to go to Gulf Countries for similar complaints. Many immigrants who have options decide to leave. You know who stays? the criminals the "refugees" the ones who know they cannot have it better anywhere else.

For many europeans an ukranian rural gentleman who barely speaks a1 level will be valued more than a indian doctor

No. We don’t give a shit. An immigrant’s an immigrant. Don’t confuse us with Americans and their race retardation. And between you and me, I have yet to meet a decent Ukrainian. They’re worse than yugos. I’d have the blackest nilote from the depths of South Sudan at my workplace over some Mykola from Pidorovo village near Kharkiv. The ukies here are extremely arrogant and shady. They literally don’t think anything of breaking laws and believe they’re martyrs who are owed everything from defending yuropa o algo.

people feel closer to people that are culturally closer to them than people that are not

so fucking racist man i'm literally shaking and crying

no, i mean the assimilated ones

who?

With all due respect it seems like you just have created a victim narrative around yourself and thought every "bad" interaction you had was based on that rather than perhaps realizing it's just a cultural differences ans you acting a way that puts people off. Like Swedes are seen as introverted and not very cordial and you will encounter that no matter if you're Mehmet from Turkey or Jan from Ukraine.

Reality is that if you make the effort to learn the language and assimilate to the culture and values you will most likely be fine.

you're an absolute fool if you believe this is unique to europeans
I'd argue europeans are probably the most inclusive and least racist compared to honestly everybody else