So do they love or hate each other? It's kinda confusing

are always correct

no one is always correct. unquestioned certainty is what murdered millions of jews, slavs, roma, etc i see your flag i assume you are han chinese.
And guess what - had the japanese the guts to ask questions then 20 million of your kind didnt had to die.

I think this development of relations would happen with whatever two countries neighboring with each other where one of them is poor, insignificant and always colonized by the other one that is rich, powerful and influential, it makes you grow a huge inferiority/superiority complex

unquestioned certainty is what murdered millions of jews

Who? And just what are you on about?

Sounds like Israel/Palestine

The only way to make people do acts of evil on large groups of humans is to say X and Y all are like this and that. And when this is accepted as the absolute truth. When this happens killing a human is just as easy and killing a bug with your hands.

This is why Germans were allowed to exist as a political entity. Not all Germans were nazi's. And not all Gypsys are thiefs.

in a sense though the history of Israeli-Palestinian relations is only like one century long so it did not develop to the same level like here

Sounds like Israel/Palestine

never mind i tried teaching ethics to a majestic retard. We now must kill everyone from hong kog because all the people from that area are dumb like this anon is.

I despise them. They're everything that's wrong with Europe. If only we had given all of their land to France after WW2 and forcibly francified every germ

Why do you hate us so much

Ireland/Britain then

Look up Holocaust and Lebensraum

I will do no such thing.

yeah, that's a good example i guess
also Finland-Sweden, maybe also Vietnam-China?

Mad about shi that happened a gazillion years ago, cmon gng

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Race realists don't say every group is like that though. They just say there are average group differences and this manifests into different outcomes for groups.
Huh?

Germans always treated us the same way Anglos treated blacks in Africa, just a colony to suck off resources from and maybe sometimes invest something but only if it profits Germany first

obviously Poles are to blame for it partially too because they never created any culture that could rival and counter German influence, even Poland's historical heydays in 17th century were pretty much the same what the Ethiopian empire was comparing to European colonial powers, it could have some military victories here and there if lucky but civilizationally, culturally, economically it was hundreds of years backward behind the rest of Europe

Germans love Poland and would die for Poland.

Germans don't give a shit about Poland and the only thing about Poland they know is that they sell cheap cigarettes there and that's the place where you look for your missing car

there is zero cultural exchange between Poland and Germany and whatever economic relations are extremely one-sided and always made in a colonial way, the German managers who come here keep themselves separated from the local society even if they live here for 20 years

Germans love Poland and would die for Poland.

I don't blame poles for this, Germans just feel like protagonists of continental europe. Poland also did many cool things and now they are doing better than Germans.

we love them they hate us

I don't blame poles for this

and that's wrong, you should blame us and we should blame themselves, if we keep indulging ourselves and romanticizing our past, we will be smashed again

Germans just feel like protagonists of continental europe.

well, im not denying they brought the glimpse of civilization here, you can even see that in loanwords, the vast majority of technical vocabulary in Polish comes from German, even such a simple thing like "roof" in Polish is "dach", I think you can guess where it comes from

Poland also did many cool things and now they are doing better than Germans.

lol, lmao even

A one-side rivalry like Croatia-Bosnia or America-Mexico.

A one-side rivalry like Croatia-Bosnia

uncomparable, you are the same people just living in separate states by some weird historical accident, meanwhile Poles and Germans couldn't be more different

Poles and Germans are the same people.

Polish people love hating Germany from their apartment in Dusseldorf

Even the Croats living in Bosnia are culturally significantly different from the Croats from Croatia. Muslims are something completely different. But the point is not in that at all, but in that sense of one-way rivalry.

it doesn't really happen, Poles who emigrate to Germany generally hate Poland and worship Germany and assimilate as soon as they can (if they plan to leave in Germany forever), we don't have this custom typical for Turks or Arabs (and that's why you don't really see Germans complaining about Polish diaspora in the political sense)

comparing to Polish-German relation, all Yugos are identical to each other

man

Piss off, man. We are not gay. Being lashed and berated by sexy German dominatrix is the Polish dream

Kind of this, but replace Germany with Polska and Poland with Deutschland

All wypipo are the same

Thoughts?

there are several million Poles in Germany but unlike Turks, politically they are completely insignificant, they don't form their own political parties, they don't go on nationalist pro-Polish marches, they don't hang Polish flags on their roofs, they just mind their own business (whatever it is, from giving lectures at unis to robberies in the street) and generally expect to finally become recognized as 100% Germans, if not them in 1st generation then at least their children in 2nd generation

it's ofc great for Germany but bad for Poland, because unlike Turkey, we have no means of influencing German politics through our diaspora.

Way hotter if the german was a guy

Based

Not bad. What's the safeword?

What's the safeword

There will be no safeword.

Quite self-aware.

The only times I really think about Pooland is when they seethe about muh reparations again (in truth probably not even for domestic reasons but rather just a desperate attempt to get our attention) or more recently when there's another headline about them going ham with their military hardware acquisition (based). Overall I don't mind them, they're definitely better neighbors and Europeans than the A*str*ans for instance, let alone Untermenschistan a.k.a. Hungary.

uhhhh b-but you don't border Hungary...

Oh, but you do? How ironic.

Meme: A*str*ans are subhumans
Reality: Austrians are brothers

Poles are the only brothers.

If Poland allied with Germany in WWII they’d have beaten the USSR. Poland as a junior partner to Germany would have more wealth and more land than all previous iterations of Poland combined. But they fell for the tricks of the eternal Anglo.

Nazi chud

Nah. History isn’t absolute. Hitler only tried to murder Poles because they were at war. If Poland had become a German ally you know Hitler would have called them TRVE ARYAN.

we don't call them neighbors, just brothers

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yeah man we sure needed even more swampy shitholes full of ukrops and belarussians

If Poland allied with Germany in WWII they’d have beaten the USSR

meme, you have to be insane to believe that a nation that lost its war of defense to Germany in 2 weeks suddenly would've tipped the balance in the German-Soviet war in favor of Germany, Soviet manpower greatly exceeded whatever combined army Germany and Poland could have mobilized anyway

All whites are your brothers, you are short sighted if you cant see this fact

also pre-war Poland was only 60% Polish and I'm not sure if our Jews, Belarussians and Ukrainians would have all supported the German-Polish alliance, most likely they'd rebelled to support the USSR instead

I never specified neighbors to whom.

The average Austrian isn't even necessarily that awful (and much closer to us culturally than anyone else) but the people they exclusively elect are.

kek

this, Hitler had nothing to offer us
as much as we seethe now, objectively the real outcome of WW2 that actually happened was the best for us what we could gain in such conditions, in every possible way allying with Hitler would have yielded worse results, and Romania is best example of that, they lost their richest areas to Hungary only to get compensated with underdeveloped swamps in Ukraine

Cuckdolf Shitler

Never send an Austrian to do a white man's job.

Poland lagged behind Germany during the Soviet era, proving you would have been better off with Germany.

Poland mogs Germany.

except Nazi Germany would be nothing like the post-WW2 Germany actually was

Nazi Poland mogs Nazi Germany.

well in our defense, pre-war poland spent 20 years preparing for another soviet invasion, nobody was expecting germans to attack and even when they did the army ordered the units on the eastern border to maintain positions instead of moving them west

nobody was expecting germans to attack

lmao, don't say it aloud or they will look down on us and our stupidity even more than they previously did

soviet invasion

That's nothing that two layers of condoms couldn't stop.

what is few months compared to 20 years
it was too late in 1938 or whenever it became obvious germans can't be negotiated with, and even then they weren't expecting them to actually invade

Poland is nowhere near similar to Germany.
Germany is like a Machine
Poland is like Plant
if one thing is off in German, the whole thing works bad.
Poland is clearly naturalistic society with no concept of works properly. Things just happened to grow around problems.

at least since Rapallo and Locarno treaties (early 1920s) it was already clear that Germany would invade us sooner or later, they didn't hide it, pretty much every German chancellor reiterated his committment to regain the "Eastern Lands", if Poles didn't see that then I don't know what to say about our """elites"""

Now they do, because they have 1/100 of the multiculturalism and mistakes that Germany has made during liberalization.

What about about swampy shitholes full of 14 year old polish girls?
Never in my life have I heard someone say “there are too many attractive young Poles around here” never once.
Let’s make it happen.
But consider Poland had a strong army that was unprepared and Poland contributed greatly to the defeat of Germany by harrying their supply lines. If Poland had been on board with Germany the Polish army would have marched prepared and the Germans would have been more well supplied.
Russia survived by a hair. A fully mobilized Polish army really would have turned the war to Germany’s favor.

Now they do

They always have.

I mean you're probably still right but given how close the Axis powers already came to capturing the Caucasus oilfields, maybe this would've been enough to tip the scales there which in turn would've had other knock-on effects. An allied (i.e. Axis) Pooland would've almost meant no Rejewski et al. to crack the Enigma et cetera, less time for the S*viets to mobilize, potentially more hesitancy on part of the Allies to support other future invasion targets ("Look at how this went in Poland") and so on.

But yeah, cheat code USA presumably would've won the day regardless.

You can only guess really, you have no idea what Germany or Europe would be in a post-war era where A) Germany won or B) the war never happened, and Britain fucked off.

*almost certainly meant

They hate each other.

This, Poland is still white while Germany becoming like Britain and France. Germany kick out the brown pipo and youll become first world utopia again

i prefer the American world, sorry

Is that why Polish people and people living in the Eastern zone were willing to risk death to cross the Berlin Wall into West Germany?

dude, our birth rate is the lowest in Europe and we bring hundreds of thousands of thirdies per year

Seethe. Hitler was Bavarian and Bavarian Germans are based.
The Poles of today may be more far-sighted.
Land is just land. It’s just dirt. The only question before the Poles should be, will the future be filled with Ivans or with Poles?

Samefag.

will the future be filled with Ivans or with Poles?

but the Soviets did not replace us

Well I don’t.

there were no poles there
soviets killed or deported everyone to siberia by 1939

As long as Israel and the Jewish diaspora continues to flood Europe with refugees and immigrants, it'll never happen.
Yes but Germany has followed the American model for growth and immigration, and now they hate the condition of their cities. You have a love of American dominance because your country hasn't felt the full effects yet.
Meds Klaus

Well I don’t

Spoiler: he actually does.

Unironically why is it that bad? You guys are approaching east asia level bad demos.

I actually do

Copenseethen
They did, they replaced your future potential. They robbed you of what could have been.
As I said before. No one has ever complained about too many attractive Polish girls.
No one wants Eastern Europe to be filled with Russians.
Would have been better if the more civilized Slavs had won and won big.

Everything sucks and nothing ever happens but unironically.

As long as Israel and the Jewish diaspora continues to flood Europe with refugees and immigrants

Arabs should stop trying to destroy Israel then, and all Jews deported to Israel

Arabs have nothing to do with Israel at this point, because the USA keeps them in line. Everyone who still thinks Hamas is an organic, independent organization needs to be checked for retardation. We know Hamas is supported by the Israeli government.

I don't see why its not organic though. Many Palestinians geuiniely hate Israel and want Israel destroyed, maybe righfully so from their perspective. And extremists groups like Hamas and terrorist attacks on Israel are just a reflection of this.

Not only Palestinians, just muslims in general also I guess

we deescalated from genocidal hatred to reluctant tolerance for the sake of business so that's some progress I guess
although they're still pushy and keep forcing their dumb ideas on everyone like migrant quotas or green policies
wish they pulled their heads out of their asses once in a while and listened to reason

migrant quotas or green policies

This is why Germany needs afd

We LOVE them
They HATE us

i'm deeply interest in how this region so decentralize in early modern period