Gaza literally lost all their autonomy
so what was Hamas' endgame again
Gaza literally lost all their autonomy
They prevented official relations between Israel and Saudis
I love that it backfired on them LMAOOOOO
Arabs take yet another L
Basically no matter what they did their proxies in the west could spin it against Israel and since there are two billion Muslims who take anything they hear in their mosque at face value, the social media noise is overwhelming.
and made saudi talk to iran again
Who knows but at least Jews died
Literally why did they do it? They knew Israel's answer would be merciless. They knew Israel wanted to annex them. They knew they couldn't face its army. What is this? Some "we're gonna lose but it doesn't matter, for our pride, for honor, huzzah!" bullshit?
to turn us into a facist dictatorship
Why do anything if your gonna lose lol
This is why your being replaced
"Palestinians" are pan arabists, their goal has always been to establish an Arab megastate which is why they supported Saddam Hussein and got kicked out of Kuwait as result, as well as Jordan earlier.
When the ruzzian invasion in Ukraine happened, 2022, I knew M/NE will be flaired up.
It happened in that summer with that barrage or rockets that made headlines.
I expected an obvious attack from the North-Northeastern side, or something from the Sinai peninsula.
I never would have expected the suicidal attack straight from the Gaza strip. That was unexpected, too extreme that I wouldn't have thought they'd ditch basic self-conservation.
From scarce sources, their objective was to be completed/achieved on 13 October.
The 7 October symbolism is obvious.
Too many international geostrategist retards obsessed with numerology, if you know, you know...
My guess is that they were/are counting on gaining a "political victory" through the international community by demonstrating their suffering. Not sure why they would go with this...
Thought Arabs would join in and attack Israel together. Hezbollah, Assad and the Houthis did briefly but the former 2 got BTFO'd and Houthis are pretty weak now they've stopped attacking shipping.
Nothing would have changed if they attacked or not. Our stance towards israel has always been clear. That is, we would NEVER normalize until the two state solution is implemented based on the 1967 borders. of course israel are whiny brats where it's either their way or the highway. so they will never comprise on anything. Hamas are just doing what their iranian masters tell them to do like the proxy bitches they are.
They thought real life was an Islamic hadith
The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding, will say: "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him." – But the tree Gharqad will not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.
why did the jews revolt against the romans in 70 ad
damn
The idea was to use children as human shields in order to elicit sympathy, so that international community would put pressure on Israel
Probably thought allah would actually grant them victory or something.
Israel lost its credibility in every country that is not eager to lick uncle sam's boots.
And now even a few Euro countries are setting up to recognise a Palestinian state. Which might not practically amount to much, but it could gain traction once started.
You have to understand that Gazans and especially Hamas believe dying for their cause is honourable and they get something special in the world after. Which is why they won't surrender or stop their fight, their cause is the only thing they have.
Palestinians have made significant gains annexing many Ive League college libraries using their western LGBTQ+ forces.
You have to understand that Gazans and especially Hamas believe dying for their cause is honourable and they get something special in the world after
Then why do they whine when Israel sends them to paradise
There's something to gain for their cause when they expose Israel as a genociding state.
They fight with whatever means they have, including making sure the world sees the massacre taking place there. The worse Israel's international image, the better
expose Israel as a genociding state
Libtard propaganda
Hamas is still operating, the idf can't stop them and israel is facing massive pressure both militarily, internationally, internally and economically
Go back, ahmed
The vast majority of Westerners support Palestine and are celebrating the Hamas attacks, including 7 October. Nearly every European or American under the age of 30 is a Hamas supporter.
I have been surprised by the amount of opposition to Israel among all sectors of the American and European populations. it seems very clear to me at this point that your ruling class truly didn't expect this level of outrage and lack of support for Israel.
Why aren't you supporting the terrorist state that has murdered swedish diplomats
Fuck off seppo court jew
he's cricumcised
LOL
Paliniggers on the verge of being ethnically cleansed because they had to get one last chimpout
Democrats are the only ones being able to slow down Bibi's bloodlust
American Arabs vote for Trump who greenlight the purge
WHY ARE THEY SO DUMB AND RETARDED
Well some of Israel's ministers like Smotrich have publicly stated their goal is to keep bombing and keep herding the Gaza population into more crowded areas without aid, until they drive them out and other countries agree to take them.
That's a public admission of genocidal policy, it fits the definition of ethnic cleansing. Which btw doesn't only mean the physical removal of an ethnic group, but also forcing their displacement from an area and working to destroy the possibility of them living as a people in that area. Geno-cide = destruction of a people, through whatever means, including killing, displacement or forced assimilation
they are arabs!
LOOOOOOOOOOOOL!
sounds based to me, also Simion is pro demolishing of gaza so bombs away
what was Hamas' endgame again
they're in a prison and when you have a prison riot everyone has to pay attention again and look up from their fucking phones
israel will always be remembered as a genocide occupation, they're starving people to death like the nazis did to them in the ghettos. the holocaust sympathy card only works if you're not actual nazis yourself, so hamas has successfully destroyed the israeli optics even further. if you are a normie and you didn't really care, when you see the starving babies and then 'israel needs to defend itself' is the argument, well, you've fucking lost
Normies in Europe tend to support Israel, because they think that's the civilised side of this conflict that was the victim of a terror massacre, so they have a right to defend themselves. Normies are not knowledgeable or informed they just parrot shit they read in the media
idiots here think "arabs wanna commit collective suicide so that they can make israel look bad internationally"
humans are the same everywhere they all want to live, sure some compared to you are more honorable and do not just roll over because the enemy has uncle sam giving them blowjob but generally people are willing to accept concessions in favor of peace, all israeli peace efforts have been two-faced, the optics you get from western media and what palestinians see in those 'negotiations' are vastly different, israel has never been quiet about wanting to completely take all of palestine and thats why palestinians fight
israelis wanna paint them as terrorists but make no mistake hamas is just civilian resistance, you cant stop civilian resistance by killing civilians you stop it by negotiating and seeking peace
stop this nonsense, democrats didnt even put up token resistance there is nothing different between democrats and republicans
I'm 100% ethnically swedish and hate Islam but i hate israel more
nobody cares about dead muslims though. They kept chimping out and killing europeans without us doing anything to them
All muslims deserve to be sent to allah
I'm 100% ethnically swedish
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL THE TAQIYYA!
If you kill your enemies, they win
Holy shit, Trudeau was right all along
Well yeah like all "based" right-wingers in Europe, they're all good goyim for Israel. No exceptions
hamas is just civilian resistance, you cant stop civilian resistance by killing civilians you stop it by negotiating and seeking peace
correct. israel doesn't want peace, they want land and dead arabs
correct. israel doesn't want peace, they want land and dead arabs
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDD
so what was Hamas' endgame again
What was
Ta-Nehisi Coates, in the throes of a book tour that had already lit up the Israel-Palestine discourse and forced him to fend off a morning show ambush, stopped by Trevor Noah’s podcast last week and conducted a dangerous thought experiment:
You must be incredibly retarded (well you're an arab subanimal after all) if you can't see how Bibi pushed the pedal to the metal the istant Trump was elected. Even the "truce" was just to get as many hostages out before Hamas got the memo and realized they were going to die anyways
If he had been subjected to the degradation and dehumanization of chattel slavery or life in Gaza, he wondered, would he be among those who committed gratuitous acts of violence during a revolt against his oppressors?
Here’s the full quote, cleaned up for readability:
Nat Turner launched his [slave] rebellion in 1830. This man slaughtered babies in their cribs. And I've done this thought experiment for myself over and over. Does the degradation and dehumanization of slavery make it so that you can look past something like that? I try to imagine that there were enslaved people, no matter how dehumanized, that said, “This is too far. I can't do that.”
Now, here's the flip side of it. And I haven't said this out loud, but I think about it a lot. If I were 20 years old, born into Gaza, a giant open-air jail … if my father is a fisherman and he goes too far out into the sea, he might get shot by somebody inside of Israeli boats … if my mother picks the olive trees and she gets too close to the wall, she might be shot … if my little sister has cancer and she needs treatment because there are no facilities to do that in Gaza and I don't get the right permit, she might die … if I grow up under that oppression, and that poverty … [when] the wall comes down [on October 7], am I also strong enough, or even constructed in such a way where I say: “This is too far”?
Islam
This is bullshit because muslims were given 5 star hotels and free money and cars in Germany and other western countries and they still ran over kids with trucks.
Muslims always have an excuse to chimp out and then they call out oppression when you hit back. They're pussies
I don't know that I am. I don't know that I am. I don't know that I am. I just wish we had room to work through that, you know what I mean? And to think about that and to talk about that.
The response confirmed his fear: We do not have room to think about that.
But something interesting is happening here. Coates’s critics do not challenge his characterization of life in Gaza. They accept the premise before skipping the thought experiment altogether and jumping straight to a moralizing conclusion. Sort of defeats the whole purpose of a thought experiment—and who can blame them? No one can honestly ask Coates’s question ("What would I do in a scenario worse than any I’ve ever lived through?") without arriving at the same humble conclusion ("I don't know"). If you’re afraid of the answer, it’s better not to ask the question at all.
The episode revealed exactly what has made Coates’s intervention in the Israel-Palestine discourse so potent: his willingness to educate himself about the conflict, interrogate his own beliefs, and ask himself difficult questions—all in the language of Liberal America, where he’s considered a voice of conscience. To the guardians of Zionism, Coates’s modest gambit was too grave a threat to let pass.
It’s not hard to see why: This approach causes the moral ground that Israel stands on to crumble. I witnessed this erosion of certainty with my own mother, who was raised by traumatized parents who'd seen whole branches of their family trees incinerated during the Holocaust. Her initial reaction to the Hamas attack was one of pure shock and horror, coupled with a reflexive aversion to contextualizing it beyond the existential threat of lethal antisemitism she'd grown up with. But as the bodies began to pile up in Gaza, she committed to reading about the conflict from a broader range of sources that my siblings and I would send her. I saved a text message from her from November 2023 that marked a pivotal shift in her understanding of the issue, a sentiment virtually identical to Coates’s:
Recently amerimutts proposed they should take charge of Gaza together with some Arab states.
Sounds to me like they don't like what Israel is preparing to do there. Trump doesn't want a total fallout with Arab states if Gaza gets occupied. Then the Saudis would completely align with the BRICS club and the USA's influence in the region would vanish
I keep thinking, if I was the mother of three children in Gaza or even the West Bank, and everything was closed off to me—for a seriously ill child I'd need permission, which I might not get, to go to a specialized care hospital in Israel—if I knew peaceful protest would be met with violence, what would I do? What could I do to try to obtain a life for my children outside of an open-air prison or occupied land where I could be thrown off on someone else's whim? Nothing they've done peacefully has changed their lives. What would I do to save my child????
Critics of Coates’s new book, The Message, have accused him of anointing himself the authority on Israel-Palestine after a mere ten-day trip and presenting an incomplete picture—a criticism that swiftly leads to the classic inculpatory question: “But why target the Jewish state of all the places in the world? ”. The answer, which his critics can find within the covers of this very manageable 232-page book, is that this is the state he felt he’d been misinformed about.
Israel is forever demoralized in global public opinion after brutally murdering innocent people including small children and hospitalized people. They also lost the Holocaust card after committing genocide against Palestine and becoming Nazies themselves
Now, here's the flip side of it. And I haven't said this out loud, but I think about it a lot. If I were 20 years old, born into Gaza, a giant open-air jail … if my father is a fisherman and he goes too far out into the sea, he might get shot by somebody inside of Israeli boats … if my mother picks the olive trees and she gets too close to the wall, she might be shot … if my little sister has cancer and she needs treatment because there are no facilities to do that in Gaza and I don't get the right permit, she might die … if I grow up under that oppression, and that poverty … [when] the wall comes down [on October 7], am I also strong enough, or even constructed in such a way where I say: “This is too far”?
And yet they do the same in the west instead of simply working the shit job and setting up the next gen for success like every other immigrant group because they're inbred retards stuck in a bronze age mindset and wires for violence and subhumanity
He writes that he decided to set his sights on history’s most intractable conflict partly due to criticism he received in response to "The Case for Reparations." In that landmark essay from a decade ago, Coates cited Germany's reparations to Israel as a model without reckoning with the project they funded. He takes responsibility for failing to devote more time to studying Israel-Palestine while also placing blame on the media for its distorted coverage, something he wished to rectify in plain view of his readers. The final and longest chapter chronicles Coates's (re)education during a trip to the West Bank, where he concludes—as most who see the occupation up close do—that Israel is an apartheid state.1
Coates found that the Jim Crow South provided the most fitting comparison for what he saw in the West Bank, allowing him to explain the occupation using the framework familiar to his loyal readers. This approach—which had catapulted him to rare public intellectual superstardom—made his clear-eyed critique all the more perilous for those locked in his sights.
oh, the italian jew
Even the "truce" was just to get as many hostages out before Hamas got the memo and realized they were going to die anyways
hamas never cared about themself, sinwar by the time he died had not eaten for three days most hamas leadership do not live for very long. what they care about is a palestinian state
plus plans never survive first contact, im sure the israelis are itching to take gaza and west bank but that will have big repercussions with the gulf states besides UAE
anyway, i really wanna give you a verbal smackdown but this is a blue board and i know you being a jew will press the report button, i dont wanna go through the effort of resetting the router
Saudis don't care about paliniggers though
instead of giving verbal smackdowns maybe help your palestinian friends? Let them in Iraq to live there. Or better yet stop Israel yourself lil bro.
Muslims revert to doing verbal smackdowns in twitter once they get shit on by actual armies. You can only kill civilians like how you did in Europe. More american and israeli bombs will do you good to leave your stone age mentality
The really subversive thing about this is that it can be used by any thirdie to justify any crime against a Westerner: my life in third world countries is shit, it's largely shit due to Western meddling and exploitation, therefore I am entitled to move to Europe and America to enjoy their gibs and rape their women, because they owe me for ruining my country and making it unlikeable.
Certainly what Americans and Europeans have done to the Middle East and Africa pale in comparison to the Israelis' genocide, but it still follows the same train of thought, the West bombs these places and keeps them in poverty so they can remain rich, thus anything a thirdie does to a Westerner is justified
Of all the jewish psyops, the most effective one was importing muslims into the west. After seeing what these "people" are like, I honestly don't give a shit if Israel holocausts them all
true, they let muslims enter europe using NGOs and now that we see how muslims are we know they deserve total genocide. Muslim clitties cant handle 180 IQ schlomo IQ
The prince doesn't, but the street does and he doesn't want to be seen as ruling against the street. If you believe ruling as a monarch in that state is as simple as ordering everyone to get beaten, then you're probably a zoomer
Not a Jew, I simply tired from having to live around your kind and every morning I hear the news about more muzzrats being incinerated it bright up my morning more than white phosphorus burning through a rapefugees camp
we do though. we have always supported palestine since the star and always gave the palestinians aid.
its pointless to try to convince 12 retards in a bubble reinforcing eachother's misconceptions that they are all wrong
how about you save your brownstinians instead of arguing on the internet lil bro
I’d previously gone down my own rabbit hole of trying to understand October 7 through the lens of racist oppression and its cascading effects. Here is Princeton University Professor of African American Studies Eddie Glaude Jr., days after October 7, sharing a quote by Coates’s greatest influence:
We have yet to understand: that if Im starting you are in danger
It’s worth watching the haunting video of Baldwin saying this:
you don't want the muslims but you're ok with the jews in your country? hitler would be disappoint son
like i heard so many wrong arguments that im just not bothering, let them wallow in their retardation
Where did I say that?
Glaude’s tweet, like Coates's comment, was met with hundreds of responses accusing him of justifying terrorism.
Here is James Baldwin in Notes of a Native Son:
And there is, I should think, no Negro living in America who has not felt, briefly or for long periods, with anguish sharp or dull, in varying degrees and to varying effect, simple, naked and unanswerable hatred; who has not wanted to smash any white face he may encounter in a day, to violate, out of motives of the cruelest vengeance, their women, to break the bodies of all white people and bring them low, as low as that dust into which he himself has been and is being trampled.
Today, most liberal Americans can grasp this concept—thanks in part to Ta-Nehisi Coates—and dismissing systemic racism as a root cause of violence is considered a deeply conservative stance. Yet, when Coates applied this logic to the Israel-Palestine conflict, many of the same liberal voices led the smear campaign against him. Perhaps they were confident enough in the enduring power of whiteness to embrace Coates’s race critique, but accepting that Jews—a newer and more tenuous power, to be sure, as he illustrates by opening the chapter at the Holocaust memorial—had gone from oppressed to oppressor was a bridge too far.
glad to know you cant argue, now take your muslims back from europe and live forever after in your muslim utopia of Iraq
I'll be honest you're the only non retard in this thread, forget the JIDF and zionist trolls, they're subhuman trash. especially that fucking romanian
what Americans and Europeans have done to the Middle East and Africa
I don't remember my country doing much in the Middle East or Africa.
Instead of saying Europeans, maybe just name the exact countries
Dancing to zogs flute
Just remove zio influence and you can remove foreign elements in peace and quiet. And they won't kill them all, it's much easier to displace them near and far, including to europe
he says while hiding in australia
go back mohammad, stop living in white people's countries unless you want the Tepes treatment
he is so desperate for a (you)
By Thursday, the Coates discourse had given way to the next one: the reactions to the news of Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar’s death, the reactions to those reactions—in particular, the outrage over celebrations of Sinwar as a hero—and the reactions to the reactions to the reactions, ad infinitum. Again, we can look to race in America to help explain. Here is Henry Louis Gates Jr. in a 1995 essay in The New Yorker about the racialized reaction to the O.J. Simpson verdict:
I was teaching a literature seminar at Harvard from twelve to two, and watched the verdict with the class on a television set in the seminar room. That’s where I first saw the sort of racialized response that itself would fill television screens for the next few days: the white students looked aghast, and the black students cheered. “Maybe you should remind the students that this is a case about two people who were brutally slain, and not an occasion to celebrate,” my teaching assistant, a white woman, whispered to me.
But the students were not celebrating murder. Gates wrote that the singular experience of Black Americans shaped how they viewed the trial. Some, driven by distrust in authorities, sincerely believed in Simpson’s innocence (“The boot on your neck is just as likely to make you delusional as it is to ennoble,” Coates would write decades later in Between the World and Me). Others thought he was guilty but saw karmic justice at play: “The Simpson verdict was ‘the ultimate in affirmative action,’ Amiri Baraka said. ‘I know the son of a bitch did it.’”
maybe blame your governments for taking in anyone without question? the same exact scenerio would happen anywhere else with open borders. if my country took in 10 million chinese communists and gave them citizenship it's not gonna end well at all. we have some issues with egyptians also who make some messes and cause some issues in saudi. it was never a muslim issue but an issue of moronic policies.
Where did I say that?
yeah so when you side with the zionists their gobal agenda grows in strength. you said
I honestly don't give a shit if Israel holocausts them all
Gates described the country slipping into a discursive death spiral: “The focus of attention swiftly displaced from the verdict to the reaction to the verdict, and then to the reaction to the reaction to the verdict, and, finally, to the reaction to the reaction to the reaction to the verdict—which is to say, black indignation at white anger at black jubilation at Simpson’s acquittal.”
To be clear, the events themselves are incomparable: There is obviously no parallel between Sinwar and Simpson, or the October 7 attack and the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman. But in both cases, a specific incident became symbolic of a broader struggle across an identity-based line, creating a shifting focal point of the public discourse that unleashed a cycle of misreading and misdirection. In the case of O.J., a Black man beating the racist criminal justice system was reason itself to celebrate. But to white spectators, layers and layers of psychological defenses prevented them from recognizing this self-incriminating perspective. (Here is Baldwin on what can get lost in translation: "The [black man] does not so much hate white men as simply want them out of his way, and, more than that, out of his children's way.") Regarding the Israel-Palestine conflict, many still fail to grasp how profoundly significant it was for the long-oppressed Gazans when they broke out of their cage and landed a severe blow on their jailers. Without this understanding, expressions of support for Palestinian resistance are conflated with endorsements of specific atrocities—some real, some fabricated—enabling critics to avoid grappling with what is being resisted.
Literally justifying paliniggers because actual niggers already chimp out daily and blame muh systemic racism
Into the trash it goes
i only feel bad for the Palestinian Christians who are still in Gaza
bigger question is why is netanyahu genociding palestanians, if they went a little softer they wouldn't have got much criticisms, but because IDF is doing what the nazis did in eastern europe everyone hates israel now
Europeans were too trusting of others, its good to not have such problems in the first place but the second best thing is to learn from the mistake and send them back
turn off the VPN you're obvious JIDF
romanians can't read
That’s the thing: When you're part of the dominant group, confronting the harshest truths about the world you've created can be deeply unsettling—especially as you face the consequences of the inevitable violent backlash from those it was built upon. The frenzied reaction to Ta-Nehisi Coates’s new book reflects how threatening this kind of scrutiny is to Liberal Zionism, an ideology that depends on systematically avoiding such critical examination. For over 75 years, this corrosive defense mechanism—fueled by historical trauma and propaganda—has clouded perceptions of the realities on the ground, enabling a racist, distorted narrative to calcify. It’s what maintains the myth of “A land without a people for a people without a land” and upholds the orthodoxy that Israel’s illiberalism begins and ends with Netanyahu and the far-right. It’s what sparks outrage in people when a hostage poster is ripped down but permits callous indifference to the fact of thousands of Palestinians being held in Israeli black site prisons on no charge, where they are tortured, raped, starved, and sometimes murdered. It’s what obscures Israel’s role as the principal aggressor and manufactures consent for its relentless hostility, always in the name of ‘defense.’ And it’s what allows people to dismiss out of hand the Palestinians’ right to fight back against decades of violent oppression while so easily asking, "What was Israel supposed to do after an attack like that?" (All that said, no amount of cognitive dissonance can explain continued support for Israel’s butchery in Gaza.)
In this country we have almost as many chinks as moroccan yet it's only one that turned our cities in shitholes. Must be systemic racism though
why is netanyahu genociding palestanians, if they went a little softer they wouldn't have got much criticisms, but because IDF is doing what the nazis did in eastern europe everyone hates israel now
he's doing what most israelis want. they're an openly racist ethnostate doing a genocide and the west does nothing because the jews own the usa and most of europe. jews have no power in china or russia and look what those countries say about israel
Yeah, but those 10 million chicoms won't leave voluntarily. You'd have to do the needful
I said I don't give a shit either way. I won't side with Israel but not with palis either
The chinks aren't rapefugees though, they were sent there on a mission to infiltrate Italy and take control of the textile sector
jews have no power in china or russia and look what those countries say about israel
russia
KEK
There has been legitimate criticism of The Message for its omission of Palestinian violence toward Israelis, and it’s actually my own belief that including this context would have strengthened Coates’s argument about the roots of the conflict. But this is neither here nor there. Are any of Coates’s ostensibly liberal detractors genuinely convinced of his supposed antisemitism or inhumanity? Doubtful, considering how many of them recently hailed him as the emancipatory voice of a generation precisely because of his razor-sharp moral clarity on systems of oppression. And that only makes him more dangerous, and undermining him more urgent. When Ta-Nehisi Coates suggests looking at something more closely, people tend to listen—the attacks on him are desperate attempts to shore up an increasingly fragile construct that cannot bear the weight of what we might see.
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Reading Coates's account of being shocked at what he saw was an uncanny experience for me. I had documented my own similar reaction in my first piece from the West Bank, You Don’t Understand How Bad It Is Here.
Here is Parul Sehgal on The Message in The New Yorker, critiquing this predictable and perhaps naive narrative: “That epiphany is a mainstay of Western writing about Palestine—‘apparent blindness followed by staggering realization’—as the British Palestinian novelist Isabella Hammad points out in her new book, ‘Recognizing the Stranger: On Palestine and Narrative,’ noting that ‘the pressure is again on Palestinians to tell the human story that will educate and enlighten others and so allow for the conversion of the repentant Westerner, who might then descend onto the stage if not as a hero then perhaps as some kind of deus ex machina.’”
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the chinks are probably students not living ther permanently. plus alot of the migrants are mostly from the worser countries of mena like egypt or algeria. living off welfare checks and dealing drugs like the lazy bums they are. you won't see much arabs from the arabian peninsula or the more well off countries. i also heard alot of the syrian diaspora are going back to syria ever since the end of the revolution
Because that keeps him in power.
Israelis are divided on this question close to 50/50.
As long as he delivers dead Gazans and offers this prospect of 'solving the old problem' through whatever means, he keeps his political support.
Once he loses power, he goes to prison, he's got a lot of corruption charges on his name
Israelis are divided on this question close to 50/50.
that's bullshit, most israelis want arabs dead. it's not even 80/20 you lying fuck
Nope, they came here to slave 14 hours a day in underground textile labs yet managed to suppress the socioeconomic factors that inevitably push every nafroide subanimal to rape and assault people with knives
calm down mohammad before I JDAM your home
You'd have to do the needful
yeah no shit. im using an example on how it isn't some muslim or brown people problem but just a problem of bad policies. the "us vs them" mindset wont solve anything and will just lead to bigger issues down the run. i bet you that a decent amount dont even pray at all and just do whatever. not exactly like some evil terrorist jihadis like how far right parties love to act.
you never look to the arabs in america and canada and wonder what went wrong, those there are perfectly fine and have higher salaries than the natives by a large margin
its because your government idiotically took in people fishing for gibs idiot, half your refugees are somalians and there is nothing going on in with somalia, a quarter is kurds and there is nothing going on in north iraq, the other quarter is a mish mash. they are in your country because they get gibs. i have seen this many times and these people are shittalked here because how do you just up and leave your entire country for some gibs? can you blame us because you had an idiotic immigration policy?
if you were smart youd have people like, mustafa suleyman, amjad masad, tony fadel, etc. and maybe some halfies like steve jobs.
so what was Hamas' endgame again
To His Excellency Richard Milhous Nixon President of the United States Washington
Mr. President:
I have the honor to acknowledge receipt of your letter.
The war of aggression of the United States against our people, violating our fundamental national rights, still continues in South Vietnam. The United States continues to intensify military operations, the B-52 bombings and the use of toxic chemical products multiply the crimes against the Vietnamese people. The longer the war goes on, the more it accumulates the mourning and burdens of the American people. I am extremely indignant at the losses and destructions caused by the American troops to our people and our country. I am also deeply touched at the rising toll of death of young Americans who have fallen in Vietnam by reason of the policy of American governing circles.
>>>>Our Vietnamese people are deeply devoted to peace, a real peace with independence and real freedom. They are determined to fight to the end, without fearing the sacrifices and difficulties in order to defend their country and their sacred national rights. The overall solution in 10 points of the National Liberation Front of South Vietnam and of the Provisional Revolutionary Government of the Republic of South Vietnam is a logical and reasonable basis for the settlement of the Vietnamese problem. It has earned the sympathy and support of the peoples of the world.
Oh so its our fault now, stop being subhuman maybe?
You are romanian...
In your letter you have expressed the desire to act for a just peace. For this the United States must cease the war of aggression and withdraw their troops from South Vietnam, respect the right of the population of the South and of the Vietnamese nation to dispose of themselves, without foreign influence. This is the correct manner of solving the Vietnamese problem in conformity with the national rights of the Vietnamese people, the interests of the United States and the hopes for peace of the peoples of the world. This is the path that will allow the United States to get out of the war with honor.
With good will on both sides we might arrive at common efforts in view of finding a correct solution of the Vietnamese problem.
Sincerely,
HO CHI MINH
stop being subhuman mohammad
sent that muslim freak flying
"Wow that outcome was totally unpredictable, I bet noone could tell that would happen" t. every ham-ass leader
Actually there's a greater majority of Israelis supporting a ceasefire.
So basically you're fucking stupid and should shut the fuck up.
Asked if they trust the current Netanyahu government, 70% of respondents said they do not, compared to 27% who said they do. Even among coalition voters, just 51% said they trust the government, compared to 36% who said they do not.
When asked if they support a deal to return all the hostages in return for an end to the war, 69% said they do, compared with 21% who said they oppose it and 10% who said they don’t know. Among coalition voters, 54% said they support a deal, compared to 32% who oppose it.
It's true that the politicians who allowed this to happen deserve most of the blame. But at the same time, only way to fix this is doing the needful. Nafris have to go back
The arabs want the same thing with Israel, your point being?
has terrorism ever worked?
Jews
well.. us/french revolutions probably
>>>>A poll conducted in the second week of January by researchers at Tel Aviv University found that Jewish Israelis believe the IDF is using an appropriate amount (51%) or not enough force (43%) in Gaza, while more than half (55%) of Arab Israelis say the IDF is using too much force and a majority (53%) believe the casualty numbers on the Palestinian side are unjustified.
As for the goals of the war, Jewish Israelis are split on whether the government’s aims are clear, while only about a fifth of Arab respondents believe they are. On the question of what the government ought to prioritize, destroying Hamas or returning the hostages, Jewish Israelis are almost evenly split, with very few undecided; a large majority of Arab Israelis (66%) say that returning the hostages should be the primary objective, with about a fifth unsure, and few (11%) prioritizing the destruction of Hamas.
it's funny reading this thread because every western flag is most likely either a jew or muslim
afaik it's always bunch of retars who believe their goals are achievable (they are not) and big boys sponsoring them to do some petty shit behind the curtains
Zionist political violence refers to acts of political violence or terrorism committed by Zionists in support of establishing and maintaining a Jewish state in Palestine. These actions have been carried out by individuals, paramilitary groups, and the State of Israel and its military forces since the early 20th century as part of the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
In the pre-state period (1920s–1940s), Zionist paramilitaries such as the Irgun, Lehi, Haganah and Palmach engaged in violent campaigns against British authorities, Palestinian Arabs, and more moderate Jews to advance their political goals. Targets included security personnel, government figures, civilians, and infrastructure. After Israel's establishment in 1948, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) and other state security forces continued to employ violence against Palestinian and neighboring Arab populations during the 1948 war (known by Palestinians as the Nakba, catastrophe), subsequent Arab-Israeli wars, and the military occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip.
Alright the muslims dropped their shilling, only the bot remains
Kek
When the Lehi militant group were discussing ways to assassinate General Evelyn Barker, the British Army commander in Mandatory Palestine, a young woman volunteered to do the assassination as a suicide bombing.[5][6][7] She said "Let my soul die with the Philistines [he]" as a reference to the Samson story in the Hebrew Bible.[5][6][7] Other members of the group rejected her offer.[5][7][6]
most arab states and hamas themselves have agreed on 1967 borders, which allow jews 76% of the land, jews want a completely demilitarized palestinian state and control of all water sources and full control of jerusalem and a bunch of other shit which is not hpapening
How is splitting Israelis by ethnic group relevant?
If they're Israeli citizens, they can vote and thus determine who gets the power.
So the relevant number is how many Israelis in general support one position or another. The aggreggates
Irgun was described as a terrorist organization by the United Nations, British, and United States governments, and in media such as The New York Times newspaper,[26][27] and by the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry.[28] In 1946, The World Zionist Congress strongly condemned terrorist activities in Palestine and "the shedding of innocent blood as a means of political warfare". Irgun was specifically condemned.[29]
Menachem Begin was called a terrorist and a fascist by Albert Einstein and 27 other prominent Jewish intellectuals in a letter to the New York Times which was published on December 4, 1948. Specifically condemned was the participation of the Irgun in the Deir Yassin massacre:[30]
It worked for Israel it seems
Tell that to Tel Aviv university
Nazis didnt take pleasure at killing kids.
Israel was built by terrorism.
I dont if thats true but nazis didn't have foreign powers as their cheerleaders encouraging them, telling them they are right about everything though.
Maybe palestinian kids should stop making killing them so enjoyable then?
Are you sure about that?
I dunno, fucking retarded though. They could've held on to their power over their little kingdom, but then they did that stupid raid. You'd know Israel would want blood, and they got a sweet casus belli to take Gaza.
they knew they had western lefties on a string so did this to turn them to fight for actual arab ethnonationalism lmao
But the whole thing was a giant blood sacrifice so that the west would force a solution
The king of sweden has never visited Israel because the jews (including future PM yitzhak shamir) killed his godfather
Killing kids is a long jewish tradition.
One of the many reasons nobody can stand living around you
Pretty sure Sweden still cucks to Israel despite of it.
And yet they did for 2000 years, while Europe is approaching a race war after 2 decades with muslims
They have alot in common with jews since they both like tunnels and get kicked out of every country their in
What your king thinks of rapefugees in sweden
They are larping as Jews nowadays, even those who left long before the Jews arrived, like the ones in Chile.
Causing wars amongst goyims is a typical jewish hobby.
kek
ackmad rapes everything
200 hours community service
everytime man
approaching a race war
meme
And yet they did for 2000 years
calling a state of 'not genociding jews' inbetween genocides coexistence is a funny way of looking at it
they just culled you when you reached critical mass
Yes but much less than other yuropean cunts at least until recently
He's not allowed to comment
you're already more hated than gypsies and that's from 2016
you imported the higher class chinese. lower class chinese here would shit in mini markets, urinate on train, and would cook rats saying it's beef then sell it to you. oh they never line up in a queue.
and don't ask me about the russian/ukrainian refugees in bali.
netanyahoo says in 2019 that it's in israels interest to fund hamas, israel has allowed funds to go to hamas
Suddenly one of the most tightly watched borders in the world is overrun because soldiers are on vacation or some shit
Hmmm
if you dont want to get ethnically cleansed maybe dont fall into obvious traps mohammad?
So you admit that you are basically cattle that has no will of it's own and needs a Jewish shepherd to guide it? You conspiracy enjoyers always push this laughably retarded idea that non Jews have no initiative and no agency.
All entities that mistreated Jews throughout history collapsed into nothing, starting from Babylon, to Rome, to the Spanish empire to the Russian empire.
Those who didn't became superpowers.
Yahya Sinwar (who orchestrated the 7/10 attack) said that the idea was to sacrifice thousands of Palestinians on the blood altar so that Israel would become a pariah and the West stopped supporting them and then the Arab Wakanda could be achieved
So you admit jews are behind wars ?
Active political minority make history, not the masses and jews have a sinister plan.
or however the c4 is detonated
Nobody mistreat jews, you always live like kings and got what you deserve after abusing your host because you cant help yourself but act like a pos everywhere you settled.
We didn't mistreat jews yet Poland isn't superpower and what's more jews hate poles more than they do mudslimes
I didn't admit anything, I was hypothesizing, it's a thing that people with over 100 IQ can do when processing an idea. Something tells me you're not really french at all, given how good the actual french are at philosophy.
Stop being such a bitch then
I love Poland actually. Idk why you guys think we hate you
Aren't your streets clean without street shitters ? be grateful you're not on the level of cucked countries like france germany and sweden and that you have an actual properly defended border
If you had to deal with Israelis you would join hamas too. Just look at how they treat their indian allies
It has been my experience that Israelis have issues with abstraction, you cant have a conversation with them about morality in abstract terms. With them is always antisemitism this, why do you care that, there conversation style is of shutting things down before the conversation can take place, or disengaging from the conversation when it doesn't go their way but still reply trying to say witty lines.
You cant get them to provide an actual moral system that applies for everyone including themselves. If I do X to you, is reasonable for you do y. That means that if you x to me, is reasonable I do y. It just doesn't happen.
wtf is this even?