Asians origin

Is picrel true? Are Mongoloids "real" or are they an ancient cross? Wanna get a discussion going across the boards. Thanks.

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Mongoloid facial features is a recent mutation
All their ancestors look Caucasoid

Tell me more.

we wuz qingz n shiet

Every pipo is current mutation retard

Literally the niggasaki meme

lmao
but seriously, op might be onto something

Look up the EDAR gene
Asians have it and we don't
likely arose in China around 35,000 years ago, before then they probably had a more "jomon" like appearance

Damn. Didn't know, now I know.
But then why some Asians look "Caucasoid" like in picrel?
It's like there's a distinguished European screaming and struggling inside that Mongol face kek

Some minorities in east Asia like the Ainu, Tibetans, Okinawans and indigenous Taiwanese have lower frequencies of this gene compared to the average east Asian.
Thats why some of them look slightly Caucasoid despite being essentially 100% east Asian genetically.
Its not from European ancestry necessarily, its just remnants of a more archaic phenotype that still survived today in some east Asians

Fascinating! Thanks, Sweden. But what about the African mtDNA in the infographic? If the Asian phenotype is because of EDAR, why the African mtDNA? I think Mongoloids and Negroids look uncannily similar. And then there's Y-Haplogroup NO, which I think the infographic is implying to have been Caucasoid rather than--as academia would have it--Mongoloid. What do you think?

Letting the average man know what a haplogroup is was a mistake
Should have just kept it as a state secret or something

Explain, please. Picrel misunderstands haplogroups?

what about the African mtDNA in the infographic? If the Asian phenotype is because of EDAR, why the African mtDNA?

The African mtDNA is just an ancient maternal line that left Africa early and is now mostly Asian, not a sign of recent African ancestry.

I think Mongoloids and Negroids look uncannily similar.

The similarity in some facial features between Asians and Africans is more of a phenotypic convergence, not shared ancestry, and theres already a wide range of phenotypes in Africa, Somalians, and West Africans dont really look Asian at all.

And then there's Y-Haplogroup NO, which I think the infographic is implying to have been Caucasoid rather than--as academia would have it--Mongoloid.

Y-Haplogroup NO descended from Eurasian K and was probably part of a population with a more West Eurasian appearance before East Asians took on their modern look.
Hope that helps

Thanks, man! Really cleared it up. If the less-EDAR Asians were to interbreed with Europids, would the result be Europid phenotype? Seems like it, but I'm not sure...

khoisan are freak, there even more distant to homo sapient sapient than abos

lol niggasaki

What about the Khoisan? Tell more, please.

Sort of yeah
They certainly wouldnt be mistaken for Chinese

Cool. Maybe they'd look like those tall and fair anime characters that no one knows if they're Asian or white or what but that still look somewhat more white than Asian?!

That's probably a fair way to put it.
At a glance, most people would likely assume they're from somewhere in Europe or west Eurasia, possibly eastern Europe
maybe even Central Asia if they inherit darker features or slightly broader facial structure.

Fuck you, we are black

Yep. Are you a geneticist by profession? You seem like you know a lot.

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No lol, i used to look up and read about this stuff out of interest

What's the most interesting or useful thing you've learned?

Not very useful necessarily
Just interesting learning about how humans have migrated and how/why they evolved who they are today, how they interbred with Neanderthals and Denisovans etc. idk
Many Africans and some southeast Asians carry DNA from early unknown hominids that arent either Neanderthal or Denisovan, there might be even more early hominids that we have very little knowledge of, yet left a significant genetic mark on some populations, what these hominids look like though we have no idea. The world was probably even more diverse back then, which is scary to think about.
Theres still just so much that we dont know

Its definitely known that there used to be a dwarf like population, homo floresiensi, people barely a meter tall
Some even speculate about the possibility of giants having existed

Do you think this "Papuan Abbo" layer my have been the African mtDNA from the infographic? Cousins of Negroids, etc.?

That's pretty fascinating. If there were literal giants, the Earth must have been smaller. Maybe Ptolemy's map was actually COMPLETE, a map of a smaller globe?

That is quite unsettling, yes. Are there some really fringe theories that you think might be true?

i dont think the earth was literally smaller, if giant hominids existed it mightve been because of genetic drift or environmental pressure. More body mass is better for heat retention in colder climates for example.
Hmm one thing i believe is that we developed more complex cultures and societies than what mainstream science leads us to believe
The consensus is no major civilizations before the last iceage, we were all just primitive hunter gatherers
However a major problem or contradiction to this is Gobekli tepe located in southeast Anatolia dated almost 12,000 years ago which is 6000 years or so before we thought the first civilizations occurred.
This structure is far too complex for primitive hunter gatherers to have built because it would have required specialization and craftsmen, indicative of a civilization and a complex culture.
There's even theories about the pyramids being way older than what archeologists say they are but thats even more fringe

Nah. A L I Y U M S

Hmm one thing i believe is that we developed more complex cultures and societies than what mainstream science leads us to believe

*earlier than what mainstream science leads us to believe

I've heard of that. Graham Hancock, right? Yeah, Gobekli Tepe is freaky.

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both caucasoid and mongoloid are recent mutations, our ancestors looked abbo

Lol

Japan is origin of humankind, It's already proved in any scientific evidence