Are softwarefags being genocided in your country?

I seriously doubt any critical software such as ffmpeg where hand written assembly is needed or where absolute security and stability is being replaced by "AI". Isn't it mostly just higher level stuff like webshit? IDK, I'm not a fucking programmer.

I already use it at my job, it's not going to genocide my career. I'm in lead engineer (half step down from manager path) and I bring value by keeping the runway clear for devs to get their work done.

t. makes $205k/yr cash comp w/9 years experience

Is the AI sector also as saturated as software dev in Europe?

ah yes the "b-but the top 0.01% won't be replaced" meme (and the vast majority of it is already written and has maintainers)
99.9% of software is just CRUD or otherwise doesn't ever need that level of detail. All you need are a handful of artists for things like ffmpeg or compilers or kernels

And even if you aren't replaced your salary will be cut

The AI shit doesn't even do webshit end-to-end very well. It's just good for generating tedious boilerplate, that's it.

For sure. There aren't really that many AI jobs to begin with (not many companies actually need sophisticated ML models) and AI tooling is so simple that most people with a normal CS degree can pretend to know what they're talking about. Currently, a lot of AI jobs is just "tape together an LLM api and an existing website". That does not require much specialist knowledge at all and many people want in on the hype.

fucking don't make shit that uses dependencies so that it needs to be maintained, like a sub-monky-iq retard

what did he mean by this?

typical mentally ill dunning kruger freak

So far AI is not even close to replacing any coders
Also there is an ongoing softwarefag genocide, but it started before ChatGPT came out and has nothing to do with AI
t. coder in AI

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I mean a dev should make software that is
1. finished before release
2. not dependent on external shit which is the the thing that makes point 1. impossible

just fucking finish shit so that IT NEVER HAS TO BE WORKED ON AGAIN before you even slate it for release or never release it
it's not rocket science
finish shit, or don't release it
"maintained software" is uncurable aids and everyone doing it deserves to be skin flayed alive

you are retarded if you think you can anticipate all features beforehand. Products evolve because market demands evolve.

Using external dependencies has nothing to do with anything you say

all software should be built from scratch

ok sven whatever you say

yeah bro you HAVE to write your own OS and compiler so you can make sure the website of your local chinese restaurant you are working on does not break

Well shit. I'm starting my Msc this year and I have no idea what direction to go to.

I despise the current AI grift cycle but I at least had hoped it was an avenue to differentiate myself from the unwashed React + Nodejs masses that get shitted out from every uni year by year.

I guess we're fucked regardless of what we do.

they have CS department in kikestan?

if software is dead what is the best adjacent career?

They used AI to target things in Gaza. The debate is whether they're low iq and it was really shitty that's why it kept bombing civilians or they intentionally trained the AI to target civilians. A wonderful example of the possibilities of AI beyond hentai.

Glad that im in structural and the boomers on site are keeping literally all progress at bay, saving us from the AI demons

I study mechanical engineering and I hope that we wont be hit as hard as other STEMfags.
Not many people are studying it anymore because it sounds oldschool to them

Not many people are studying it anymore because it sounds oldschool to them

isn't that, you know
kind of the most necessary thing in the world?

Machine learning and drones are a match made in hell itself. The future of warfare is going to be automated factories churning out swarms of suicide drones to bomb robot dogs on hundred year orders from civilizations that don't exist anymore.

it's also by far still the largest engineering discipline when it comes to number of students

not sure what he's smoking

Future of war is Supreme Commander

Fucking based

Should have started 5 years ago, SAAB, Bofors ect are sucking up every single mechanical engineer they can find to make bigger weapons more ammo

Maschinenbau is mech eng and Informatik is CS.
Numbers have changed a lot.
It used to be the go to STEM discipline and every University sees numbers declining.

Slop

CS is not engineering retard. You're talking to too many americans.

Thats not what I mean. I know CS is not engineering but mecheng used to be the go to stem discipline and now its cs by a long shot.
This used to be inversed a decade ago

no one is being replaced, llms are absolute shit at programming
it's snake oil and the biggest useless meme since blockchain

Like I said, it's still the go to engineering discipline. You are not a special snowflake for choosing it lol

Your apparent lack of critical thinking skills also reveal that you would be a shit engineer anyways

I never said that retard. Its the most go to engineering discipline although things have diversified more to other branches also.
It used to be the go to discipline for STEMfags, not it isnt. Thats my point and numbers being in decline on all universities are clear about it.
I dont get why you dont understand what I mean?

Yes, people are being replaced. A proficient programmer with an LLM is much more productive than one without, to the point that companies need fewer programmers, so there are fewer jobs in general.

I think you completely missed the point the swede was making. He is saying that people need to learn how to build software not just import lib-* that handles every single function.

These new slop software engineers don't know how to write any code, just import libraries or functions that complete the task.

your literal words: "not many people are studying it anymore"

meanwhile in the real world: largest engineering discipline

you are so incredibly stupid lmaoooo

i bet you're in a hochschule and not a real university lol

why would you rewrite a worse version of say, FFmpeg when the real version exists, is heavily optimzed and actively being maintained?

My literal words: "not many people are studying it anymore"
meanwhile in the real world: Not as many people are studying it as before, relative terms being the most important here.
Like our engineering department is talking about downsizing hard

Not sure how it is in Germany, but most ME grads seem to either get a job as manufacturing/quality/process engineers (in many cases performing work that's actually meant for industrial engineers or even business administration grads) or as electromechanical technicians since there are not that many actual mechanical design jobs here in Mexico.

so you admit that actually tons of people are studying it? hochschule ass nigga

You can say that about every degree on the list i sent.
The number of people studying it decreased a lot over time.
We have less than half people than it used to be studying it at my UNIVERSITY than we did 10 years ago.
Are you too retarded to get my point?

A bunch of universities around where I live have decided to merge their electrical and mechanical engineering degree programs over to chimeric mechatronics engineering degree programs, I guess mostly because Zoomers/Alphoomers are not really interested in HVAC work, "tough" courses like Thermodynamics and Heat Transfer, and only care about robots and muscle cars/motorcycles.
Have you seen anything like that popping up in Germany?

Yeah we have lots of mechatronics stuff.
Albeit thermodynamics departments made the smart decision here to also have lots of like heat pump and energy production and transfer stuff and try to attract many environmentalist people.
But we have lots of turks going to study mecheng because they like cars kek

Software is a hell job in my hell hole. IT companies adopt sillicon valley's interview style where they expect you to recognize a collatz conjecture problem while the slary is slightly above minimum blue collar wage. And you're expected to work until 8PM and ready to answer calls on the weekends. All the 90s kids got scammed into learning STEM by the government, but there's no infra or businesses except for outsourced IT firms so they have to take it anyway.

genocides web designers

Another Swedish win

what the fuck does collatz conjecture have to do with IT interviews?

you're not a real programmer if you use libraries

Considering AI doesn't follow QA guidelines it would suck at writing code.
It might be good for troubleshooting however.

What, you mean drive and you don't even know how to build your own car? What kind of driver are you

You *slap* Ain't *slap* A *slap* Real *slap* Programmer *slap* Unless *slap* You *slap* Writin *slap* In *slap* Assembly *slap* Language *slap*

He is saying that people need to learn how to build software not just import lib-* that handles every single function.

he is a first time linux user that just had his first experience with libraries incompatibility and therefore billions must die to facilitate his dependency-free life
don't listen to such retards

pretty sure it's hyperbole for how gay and obscure some technical interview questions are at fagman/wannabe fagman companies

Typically it's just puzzles that prove basic coding competency and understanding of data structures and algorithms?

They ask you random logic and math quizzes like that, sort of an IQ test, on top of coding tests of course. 4 rounds in total across a month and the job is just an outsourced branch of a US company because workers are cheaper in VN (they pay vietnamese wages.

god forbid a company actively targets the smartest people

if you were hiring, would you look for the smartest people or the stupidest people?

claude is cute

Obviously but they all want the smartest people for peanuts pay. And they still got it, because the education model planned by the VN government was and still is cheap workers for foreign companies, undercutting workers from the host countries.

yeah obviously. you are third world. You cannot compete by brainpower but you can compete by cost. If you weren't dirt cheap there would never be a reason to hire an asian programmer

Now tell me something I don't know. Your posts are worthless.

so are yours. like talking to a wall (with asian eyes)

Not really, the main culling already happened when Outsourcing to jeets or other cheaper euros became common place.

you´re not a real man if you don't assembly all transistors one by one

Lol

They're fine if they have experience, juniors in IT and Mechanical Engineering are struggling because boomers sold the country to China. I myself am doing fine with my finance meme degree and some basic coding knowledge.

what kind of work?

Ah yes, Linux never needed more than 1 version.

I got sacked as a code monkey and I'm looking for a new job

I'm a Financial Controller with 6 years of experience working at a major bank. Most of my work is creating recurring reports (P/L statements, balance sheets, various other KPI reports), making sure the accountants do their job right and helping/advising upper management with their decision making. In terms of software I use MS Office (duh), SAP, SQL, Tableau, and some Python scripts I'm not supposed to use but do anyways. Basically anyone who understands basic math and has some common sense should be able to do my job, but a lot of people lack that.

Lucky for you though a lot of huge tech companies are starting to move entire departments to Vietnam now because even pajeet labor has become too costly for them. Expect a sizeable growth in slop good morning saar type tech jobs in your country in the next 5 years.

npm install -g @anthropic-ai/claude-code

what? at least chatgpt has a desktop app for windows that works easily enough
I'm not going to install linux to use expensive ai

I am studying engineering, and this AI depresses me a lot because clearly the educational programs have not yet adapted to its advent. I can feed exam topics to LLMs, and in most cases, they are able to solve them in the blink of an eye. It feels like I'm one of those people who learned to do mental calculations during the years when personal computers were becoming

HVAC installers actually call configuring the units "programming".
With the same logic, installing an OS or changing IP address is "programming the PC".
The line needs to be drawn somewhere. Some can't allow for python or php to be called programming. This is all just highly flammable bait keeping retards busy.

Is hardware still a solid career? What study should I pick