Capital of european country

capital of european country

located closer to other countries than its own country

Im looking at you oslo, vienna, vilnius, skopje, copenhagen, london, berlin, bratislava, bucharest, zagreb, sofia

You will never be Chad like madrid, brussels, rome, athens, warsaw, minsk, riga, prague, lisbon

genuine autism

borders change

so do capitals. from now on Odense is capital of denmark

located closer to other countries than its own country

that's literally impossible THOUGH because a capital is by default part of its own country

oslo

Where do you want your capital to be? Inside some impassable shitty mountains not fit for human habitation?

Nuh uh

trondheim

Ljubljana is 40km from both the Austrian and Croatian border because Slovenia is pinched in its middle part from N to S, right where Ljubljana lies.

Our capital was traditionally on the southern edge of the country (Kraków), it was only moved to Warsaw in 16th century but the reason for this was exactly to improve communication for the king within the vast territory of PLC (especially that around that time we had a lot of affairs with Sweden so a more northern location was desirable)

after WW2 there was also an idea to move to capital to Łódź which is located exactly in the very centre of Poland (though it was a secondary reason, the main one was that Warsaw was turned into rubble)

Zagreb

What should be the centre of a thin sliver shaped like a sharp angle?

Helsinki and Tallinn are the biggest offenders along Bratislava and Vienna, they are closer to one another than to any city within their own country.

That's why croatia is jugoslavia

Turns out bratislava has been part of roman empire, avar empire, ottoman empire, holy roman empire, german empire, soviet empire and EU empire

What the fuck does this mean? How can a capital be "closer to other countries than your own country", when your capital is literally in your country?

distance to other countries: >0km

distance to your own country: =0km

stop being so autistic or AI-brained
every human being knows what he meant, that's why we are different from robots, we understand contexts, mental shortcuts and so on

German cities

amerisharts should be banned from discussing history

Moscow should be independent from Russia, though.

wasn't Pozsony majority German at one point, tho?
actually weirdly enough, out of all Hungarian lands, Slovakia probably had most Germanized cities, wonder why

Take your meds

No really, what does it mean? If he meant something along the lines of "his capital is near the border" he should have said so. Fucking retards

wasn't Pozsony majority German at one point, tho?

so was Buda, yet it would be retarded if anybody called it a "German city"

That part of Croatia is basically empty and it was rendered a ruined shithole by Ottomans and Serbs. It's a desolate mountainous terrain far from economic centers. It's economy is a bit of tourism and buying chickens from inbred farmers with last names Milanović and Jovanović.
It's much more logical to have a capital far from balkan warmongers, even Zagreb is dangerously close to Republika Srpska being only separated by a few km of flatlands and rivers.
Varaždin should be the capital. It was until a local fire destroyed it and the title was transferred to Zagreb.

at part of Croatia is basically empty

exactly, so moving the capital there would help boost its economy
just the same way how thirdies build new capital cities in the middle of nowhere to strengthen local economy + relieve housing shortage in their biggest city

what happened with all these Germans in Hungary, did they magyarize over time or remained vehemently German until WW2 and were only expelled afterwards?

at least in Poland most Germans from the medieval colonization gradually polonized (that's why we have so many German surnames in Poland now), only those who came here from 19th century onwards usually exhibited typical German nationalist attitude.

To be fair, Berlin used to be a lot more central

bad existing infrastructure and difficult terrain to build big roads, railways, airports

horrendous climate with freezing winters and scorching summers

it just gets destroyed and pillaged again when Serbs decide to chimp out

No thanks

yet it would be retarded if anybody called it a "German city"

No it wouldn't?
We frequently say stuff like "Brasov was a German city" and nobody bats an eye here.

Make YORK great again

Ustasa wanted the capital to be Banja Luka

when Serbs decide to chimp out

don't worry, Thompson will singlehandedly defend Knin again

We frequently say stuff like "Brasov was a German city" and nobody bats an eye here.

afaik you only say that not to say that it was a Hungarian city

Ukrainians constantly do the same with Lviv, they always say that it was an Austrian/German city, never Polish

the old capital used to be in the middle, but sofia makes more sense as it's far easier to protect because of its geography being around mountains

though still Ostdeutschland was always economically and culturally irrelevant comparing to the west, so probably even back in 19th century travelling east of Berlin felt like crossing the border between Europe and Asia

that's why German architects developed Posen following examples from Berlin, it was even called Klein Berlin, because it was supposed to be the capital of Deutsche enlightenment over the barbarian Ossiland

let me guess, you don't call Kolozsvár a Hungarian city

some of them assimilated, some of them got deported. there are still some left

Bratislava is a made up name

I thought it means something like the glory of brothers

Do they actually? I thought we were never a majority there

we were never a majority there

anon must be very old desu

That's true, but moving the capital west would have only made the issue worse. Much easier to justify funding for a railway through empty Pomerania and Brandenburg, if it's to connect Silesia/Prussia to the capital, than if there were another 200km between those areas and the rest of civilization

But it genuinely was majority German for many centuries
About Lvov, I don't know exactly, but the situation wasn't like that

it does but my point was that this name is not historical and was never used before, you can even feel how artificial this name is (though since most placenames in America are artificial too, maybe you cannot feel it)
Germans were never a majority in Lviv in absolute numbers but obviously since Lviv was in AH, German culture was very strong there as state culture, German language was official or coofficial one (depends on the period) so nationalist Ukrainians feel more comfortable with calling this city historically German than Polish (because Germans don't voice any claims to this city while there are some nationalist Poles who do, though it's a minority)

I suppose we actually don't

well, yes
i can imagine that it must be a real burden and economic obstacle for Berlin to be so close to the eastern border, means far away from the economic centres of Germany and not having a wealthy partner over the border to trade with
I guess most Berlin development nowadays is thanks to federal funding, state administration and so on