They would be better off if they recognized themselves as a Slavic country. Romance nations will never see them as one of their own or equal to them. No Italian, Portuguese or Spaniard will defend their cause anywhere, not even in online arguments. If you ever see them fighting with Hungarians over their history, borders, people etc., who usually comes to aid them? Frenchies? Obviously not, it's always Slavs. They should make conclusions now.
They would be better off if they recognized themselves as a Slavic country...
Too brown for slavs
Bulgarians are darker yet they pass for Slavs
This.
You don't fool me nafotroon.
an orthodox romance speaker is like a man in womans clothing. very alien, strange. not surprised theres not as much brotherhood
Matter of fact we have trannies as well.
I will defend Romania with my life, they are our latin brothers and should own all of the balkans
orthodox romance speaker
fun fact is that there are a bunch of Brazilians of Ukrainian origin who are exactly like this
you'd sell them to Russia, Hungary, Turkey or anyone if only it benefited you
you feel nothing but contempt and disdain for them
there are catholic anglos yet I don't hear you whinnying about them
english catholics are burnt at the stake as tradition thoughbeit
the problem is that even the most biased source place romanains as 50% slavic genetically.
language is easily 80% non-slavic
romania is not slavic
no we we are balkanic sweetie not slavs
romance speaker
We speak english sprinkled with french words
made up problems
Bulgarians are genetically totally not Slavic and their language was more Turkish and Greek than Slavic in 18th century, probably even Romanian was more Slavic back then than Bulgarian
yet they just decided that politically it makes sense for them to align with Slavs so they artificially slavicized their language (replacing Greek and Turkish words with Russian) and also started claiming that 1% of their Slavic genes makes them fully Slavic and you cannot question it
Romanians can easily pull this stunt too
let me tell you made up things about your country
pshek why are you obssesed with bulgaria. are you the serb loving faggot?
this is literally true, modern Bulgarian vocabulary is largely straight out taken from Russian even without proper phonetic changes that would make it at least pretend to be a result of an organic development
this is why it is also so different from Serbian/Macedonian vocabulary that developed organically
"Slavs" don't exist
polack education in full force
and of course you are the reddit spacing serb loving faggot. hitler should have raped your pshek ass to death
Hungary, North-east Slovenia and North Croatia can larp as something between South and West Slavs because they have direct heritage from Pannonian Slavs. I'd even argue that the dialect in Međimurje and Prekmurje is very close to what modern Pannonian Slavic would be like, a transitional form between South and West Slavic languages.
Romania is and feels like something between South and East Slavs.
modern Pannonian Slavic would be like,
VGH imagine if it survived...
don't get me wrong, I like Hungarians...but I'd like them even more if they spoke a fancy Slavic dialect!
Also, you're wrong
The ones that show the greatest solitary among each other are Germanics.
You should have noticed online how when Germans argue with Poles, Scandinavians and Dutch are the ones siding with Germany. All that while Germanics seem more subtle and modest about their solidarity.
Slavs and Latins on the other hand are a bunch of tribalistic self-destructive faggots, constantly bickering over relevant shit among each other, while also loudly proclaiming the greatness of their supposed ethno group.
So no, if you want to meme, Romanian should proclaim themselves to be Gepids or Gothic, it would be bullshit anyway and wouldn't work, but theoretically that would be best.
South Italy was initially Orthodox, there probably were Romance speakers also, I doubt it was only the Greek speakers.
en.wikipedia.org
Slavs and Latins on the other hand are a bunch of tribalistic self-destructive faggots
nah, Slavs can argue between each other but when an external force threatens them they will always support each other because they take whatever accusations against "slavness" personally, for obvious reason
so when I see a Hungarian attacking Serbs and using "Slav" as an insult, I immediately come to the rescue even though Poles are not even particularly fond of Serbs
it's the same like you can insult and belittle your brother as much as you want but if a stranger tries to do it, you'll defend your brother at all cost
meanwhile you can see there is no relation like this between Romanians and Western Romance nations, you never see Italians or French people defending or supporting Romanians anywhere, if a Romanian argues with a German, they will support a German, because for them "civilizational" ties are more important than whatever linguistic ties.
I dont think anyone here consideres romanians a brotherly people
informative, arcane knowledge, thank you
What do you think Slavic means? It has nothing to do with ethnic composition.
It means your people speak a Slavic language.
Just like Argies speak Spanish but they have fuckall to do with Europe. So they're 'Hispanic'. It's just cultural affiliation.
Unfortunately they don't have a surviving "Proto-Slavic" minority. Every group of Croats I find in Hungary are immigrants who came later and speak some form of Slavic that's also found here. In a way, Hungarians have more Pannonian Slavic preserves in their language than actual Pannonian Slavs.
They have some Kajkavians living right across the border and that's it.
According to sources the latest indigenous Slavic was spoken in what is now Hungary was 10-11. century AD in what is now West Hungary and it connected the area around North Croatia to Slovakia. Slavs that live there now are Burgenland Croats who came centuries later from Bosnia.
I meant anglos like in anglo nations like in SUA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and UK not particularly English
Slavs can argue between each other but when an external force threatens them they will always support each other
You haven't been paying attention to many recent events in the last decades?
meanwhile you can see there is no relation like this between Romanians and Western Romance nations, you never see Italians or French people defending or supporting Romanians anywhere, if a Romanian argues with a German, they will support a German, because for them "civilizational" ties
Such is the burden of being Romanian, we should just accept it and make the most of it. And no, over the years I have seen how even "friendly" Slavs like Poles, Serbs or Slovaks have this malicious hunger when say they "like" Romanian. They "like" Romanians the same way a wolf "likes" sheep. Slavs really, really hate non-Slavs existing here. Which is also funny since dumb Romanians mostly like Slavs
what have slavs ever done for romanians
they don't have a surviving "Proto-Slavic" minority.
Well, Slovenes and Slovaks are the remnants of it, just they acquired a separate identity over time (but still it's clear that this identity is a bit artificial even due to their name which means just generic "Slavs")
have more Pannonian Slavic preserves in their language than actual Pannonian Slavs.
yes, it's actually interesting that Hungarian language sometimes preserves Slavic words in forms that were used around 10th century but generally evolved in other Slavic languages into different forms, so Hungarian allows the Slavic linguists to get the original pronunciation of Slavic words
like we can be sure that the word for "neighbor" in Slavic languages was originally pronounced with a nasal vowel inside because Hungarian has "szomszed" while other Slavic languages have denasalized versions like sused/sosed. Polish theoretically still has a nasal vowel there (sąsiad) but in Polish the nasals evolved in a weird way over the medieval era and generally speaking, the nasals we have today are not the same nasals like from the 10th century so sometimes Hungarian is our only source of the actual original pronunciation
Romance nations will never see them as one of their own or equal to them.
Yes but it also proves the point that it does not matter how you think of yourself as a nation, it wont change the perception anyway
Jews are the only exception who can meme their delusions into reality and somehow made their ultra-Balkan ethno narcissist behavior not seen as low class
gave them their religion, script (Romanian used cyrillic all the way until 19th century and Moldovan used it until 1990s and sometimes still uses it), and a large part of culture (if not the most)
fun fact is that the first written source of Romanian language starts with a Slavic sentence.
gave them their religion,
That was Greeks
script (Romanian used cyrillic all the way until 19th century and Moldovan used it until 1990s and sometimes still uses it),
Funnily, also Greek, and not appropriate for us, Roman Danubian provinces used mostly Latin.
and a large part of culture (if not the most)
There is not "Slav culture", Balkan Slavs took almost everything from Greeks and Balkan populations.
Welcome
you never see Italians or French people defending or supporting Romanians anywhere
Eurolatinx never defend themselves, except maybe for Iberians. There's virtually no support for pan latinism nations
That was Greeks
no, you got it from the Slavs, your whole religious vocabulary is of Slavic origin or even the Greek words are in Slavic forms
Funnily, also Greek
by this logic Latin is nothing more than a repurposed Greek script either
There is not "Slav culture", Balkan Slavs took almost everything from Greeks and Balkan populations.
that's not true, there are still very distinguishable Slavic customs, beliefs, traditions, even idioms, shared between all or most Slavs.
for instance, Slavs tend to build huge multigenerational houses, it happens everywhere in Poland, Russia, Slovakia, Croatia, Serbia etc. Hungarians strangely don't do this, despite being economically the same like most Slavs. If that's not cultural, then what? Romanians do it too, btw.
your whole religious vocabulary is of Slavic origin or even the Greek words are in Slavic forms
No, a lot of it is also Latin in addition to those like iad and rai, especially some of the basic, Dumnezeu, credincios, drac, păgân, biserică is Greek but also exist in Latin and others.
there are still very distinguishable Slavic customs, beliefs, traditions, even idioms, shared between all or most Slavs.
Slavs tend to build huge multigenerational houses
Isn't that a thing also in Mediterranean countries?
If that's not cultural,
Slavs don't have a unified culture in the first place. It's basically a group of people with just broad European culture. Some are more Byzantine influenced, some more Western (You), witn various nuances.
Isn't that a thing also in Mediterranean countries?
even if so, it stems from different practices and not related to the same root, meanwhile among Slavs it comes from the same source (also Med multigenerational houses still look different while let's say Polish and Croatian houses are 100% the same despite 1500 years of being separated from each other)
Slavs don't have a unified culture in the first place
well, obviously no large group will always have 1:1 identical culture in all corners of its realm, just like Swedes aren't identical with Austrians. But for all intents and purposes Slavic culture across all Slavic countries exhibits many traits that can be attributed to common Slavdom and are not shared with non-Slavic people in their vicinity. But surprisingly, most of that is shared with Romanians.
insane how we are literally giving Romanians a chance to escape the situation where they are constantly ridiculed and humiliated by their "cousins", offering them our friendship and support yet they prefer to stay with their oppressors and staunchly defend their own imaginary belief in their place among Romance nations, like they suffered from a Stockholm syndrome
this is what living among slavs does to you. but you are pole so you can't grasp it
why would we choose to be slavs out all things lmao
Slavs were always friendly to Romanians, that's why you still exist after all
because Romance nations don't consider you part of their own community and despise you
Slavs were always friendly to Romanians,
So poles have mythomania like Serbs do?
It was Slavic benevolence thanks to which you survived as a culture, Slavs respected you, mixed with you and even sometimes adopted your customs, now compare that to how Hungarians, Turks or Greeks treated you.
Not to mention that you only have an independent state thanks to Slavs.
muh 1940
that happened literally once and still Moldovans could freely speak their language and continue their traditions, unlike Romanians in Hungary
giving Romanians a chance to escape the situation where they are constantly ridiculed and humiliated by their "cousins"
As opposed to being ridiculed and humiliated by slavs?
Your genes change if you speak a latin language
They’re already slavic, retards
dont forget romanias third option..
Slavs respect you and always did
among Slavholes you'd be actually in the upper half of the country ranking
Romanians historically commonly bred with Slavs. Meanwhile they almost never mixed with Hungarians, Greeks or Turks because these nations didn't see you as equal and worthy
says a lot who is your real cousin
Meds
Now
Slavic benevolence thanks to which you survived as a culture,
Russians wasted to completely erase Romanians in their empire, like many other nations
Slavs respected you,
Lol lmao even
mixed with you and even sometimes adopted your customs,
So you admit we did actually have our own customs?
now compare that to how Hungarians, Turks or Greeks treated you.
Funny you don't mention Austrians/Germans.
Fun fact Austrians used to favor Serbs a lot back in the 18-early 19th centuries, to the extent they actually gave them authorite over Romanian Orthodox churches, even in Transylvania and "Bukowina".
In "Bukowina" North Moldova they also favored Ukrainians and any other ethnic group over Romanians.
did you notice that this thread has 50 posts and there has been only 1 (!) post from a western Romance nation asking Romania not to stop identifying with Romanceness? He's probably a Romanian diasporoid anyway
Also we have an Italian post explicitly telling Romanians to fuck off.
they really don't like you
that would make half of germans and at least a third of swedes slavic
You know I'll give credit to serbs: analbanians are untermenschen incarnated. After interacting with them I have to say they are a walking stereotype
That's like saying Prussians respected Poles.
Russians wasted to completely erase Romanians in their empire, like many other nations
huh? when? it was Russians who allowed Romanian traditions and language to thrive, ofc you can accuse them of trying to forge a separate Moldovan identity but disregarding the name, it was still the same culture
Lol lmao even
yes, the fact that they didn't see it as wrong to marry your people and create families confirms that, this is the strongest indicator of mutual respect
So you admit we did actually have our own customs?
everyone does but still we can group nations into larger spheres based by some similarities
Funny you don't mention Austrians/Germans.
why should I, i don't think you'd ever try to associate yourselves with them
Polish-German marriages when we were occupied by Prussia were extremely rare exactly because of contempt they felt towards us and seeing us as lower human beings. This was the same sentiment Hungarians felt towards Romanians.
But Slavs never showed anything like this to Romanians so marriages between them were always common.