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In the lowest part of the mane.

but the communist doesn't want a life style untouched by capitalism, they want the world to overcome class struggle, the law of value, the division of labor and alienation and they believe the proletariat is in an unique position in history to carry this plot forward. I don't quite understand what toss means by this comic

Is that an Amish?

Yes

Communism is purely theoretical; it's a fairy tale. Marx did not work a factory or attempt to divide wealth. He survived off of others' labour. In the same way, the modern Marxist is only pro-labour for the sake of argument, but in their private life, they avoid lifting a finger whenever possible in direct opposition to their supposed ideology.

right wings are retarded, more news at 11

industrialism is capitalism

refusing industrialism is comunism

China has greater industrial output than any capitalist country.

but that's not REAL communism, communism has only been tried when it fails to be industrious

Never waste time with american opinion about communism. Complete waste of time.

modern day China is communist!!!111one

Least retarded Pootwogeese.

China isn't REAL communism, but Cuba and Venezuela are.
Communism has only been tried to fail.

They're collectivists though.

Yes, it consistently fails so severely even its strongest defenders give up on actually implementing any of it.

power hungry soulless tyrant

or

depending on extremely dumb plebs

Choose your poison.

Right, and when capitalism fails it doesn't really fail because it's time to blame the individuals.

adaptation is le bad

if you don't act exactly like Marx said 200 years ago, extreme exploitation of the miserable masses is the only viable way

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outside of overcoming class struggle, i am pretty sure modern marxists realize how retarded the other parts of marx's vision were.

How are the Amish not participating in capitalism?

It's a toss strip, don't point at all the plotholes

I would guess that any commune that was actually successful would get Waco'd very soon after.

What are you talking about? China is closer in economic terms to literal Nazi Germany than the S*viet Union (or modern-day Cuba/Vuvuzela for that matter).

How 'bout (You) explain how it *IS* communism in your gigabrain mind. Do you think "state intervention = communism" or something equally retarded?

*than to

Describing a government as capitalist is Marxist semantic trickery. Capitalism is a description of effective business operation, not a system of governance. No government in existence operates for profit. No free market exists. Laws limit trade and business operation for the sake of safety and equality, and governments operate at a loss to provide services to their people.
There are governments that explicitly attempted to be communist. They were miserable disasters. No government has ever, in name or in practice, attempted to be capitalist. Only a snake would attempt to frame the world in that false dichotomy.

children who don't know anything about the world can only think in terms of ancap x communism
youtube is full of that crap, they could try to educate themselves but that's hard and someone's paying these people to spread retardation

I'm agreeing with YOU big brain.
China isn't communist because it has the largest industrial output, everyone knows REAL communism is when your people can't produce toilet paper and beg from tourists at the beach.
Real Communism has never been tried!

China killed 65 million people and is as poor as mexico

Two more weeks until capitalism collapses right?

Cute comic and thread.

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Yeah, Capitalism isn't a government, you can never blame capitalism, it's never been proven to fail because when it does it is by defenition not capitalism.
Capitalism can only succeed, because when it fails it literally means it's not an "effective business operation"

So when a communist country succeed at a business it's therefore not communist, and that's why China isn't communist: Because communism means failure and capitalism means success.

By defenition, if it collapses it's no longer Capitalism.
Capitalism is just a description of a successful business.

The communist decides to partake in socialist productive systems to not further engage in what the consider the alienating capitalist modes of production

To take part in these productive structures is a choice.
No one forces you to attain communism without disengaging in capitalist modes of production, in fact, communism has now been weaponized into empty sloganery and commodified into another capitalist entertainment slogan
Classes emerge from the commodification of labour in exchange of any good. You cant force people to not commodify their labour.

You're still insisting on false dichotomy; you're just acting like a 12 year old girl who discovered sarcasm yesterday.

You're an 8 year old who just discovered Capitalism can only succeed and is Good VS communism that is Bad

Arbitrary capitalization doesn't magically make your stupid ideas true. Let's try again, simpler this time so you don't get a headache.
Many countries have explicitly attempted to be communist. No country has attempted to be capitalist. Why do you pretend that these are the only two options?

No, roughly 100 years, when the planet dies.

china would be a shithole had it not adopted market reforms, every successful nation in the world is some kind of mixed system and even the US went through periods of high government intervention.
seethe, cope etc

No country has attempted to be capitalist.

Capitalism has never been tried!

Communism and capitalism are the same really. Gommie proles don't actually own the factories, still have only their working force to sell and there's only crap on the telly

Obviously, communism means failure and eating dirt, China isn't communist because it has the largest industrial output in the world, therefore not REAL Communism

china isn't communist because you can go there and see for yourself that it objectively isn't

Right, and if you go to Venezuela or Cuba you can totally see they are communists, because objectively they are.

Amish have no class struggle either

Capitalism and communism are both bad.
Life is cyclical, modes of production are temporary, tribalism is good, both Constitutional bureaucracies of socialist modes of producton (the state) and the Capital are enemies of mankind

I'm agreeing with YOU big brain.

No, you're not, you duplicitous fuck. But fine, shirk the question then, coward.

amish are somehow anti-capitalist

shittoss is more retarded than I thought

Venezuela or Cuba

they're probably more closed, yeah

they are communists, because objectively they are.

i don't care and it doesn't matter

Own your own words creep.
Soviet Union, Cuba, Venezuela are all failures, therefore real communism.

China is like Nazi Germany. A literal NAZI!

why do marxists argue like women?

being too retarded to understand a stonetoss comic

both of them are trying to "win" by emotional manipulation because their ideas are obviously retarded

Bawk bawk baaawk! Eis a galinha!

He's quite dumb isn't he?

And also the communist doesn't want to return to the past. Marx explicitly calls the desire to "go back to a simpler farm life" reactionary. They think capitalism is factually and objectively better than the previous modes of living and that something even better is now possible

You would know what arguing with a woman is like.