Diet greece

Name one thing Italy can do better than Greece

Speak Italian

vos Romani estis miserandi. Vos imperium

habetis, sed vos estis imitatores; nos Graeci
sumus auctores, vos Graecas statuas spectatis, vos Graecos libros legitis, Graecos rhetores auditis. vos Romani estis ridiculi, quod estis Graeciores quam nos Graeci!

Greek is a more sophisticated language

if france was a woman, i'd be lucky to marry her.

i think it's split west/east/south. cypriots, greeks, turks, lebanese, alawites, etc. they're like different skins for the same gun.
italians, spaniards, corsicans, etc.
then you have the nafricans all clustered together.

there's minor overlap between these three groups of course, in the same way theres overlap between scandinavians, alpine germans (swiss, austrians, lombards) and lowland germans (incl. benelux). english are fully celtified so they don't count, but they'd fit in more with the scandinavians imo.

ballerina cappuccina

yeah, i eat a lot of italian food. got a problem with that gregoros popadopoulous

I look like that but with a box of lyrica on top of my head

East meds look like the merchant meme, west meds have more angular and defined features

greece for grown-ups

somebody should murder Fidias to restore my faith in Cyprus

greek savages diet consists of fried squid and kebab

Italians are the undisputed culinary masters of Earth (mention France and you're a snail eating n*gro sorry)

greeks can't flush toilet paper or their entire village plumbing system will collapse

in Italy you can flush as much toilet paper as you want

in greece all statues and ruins are basically rubble

in Italy ruins and statues are in excellent condition

architecture in Italy is old and marvelous, full of history

greece is just middle eastern commie blocks with constant 45 degree sun

corrrrrrr

For you maybe, fat fuck

Honestly? I love Greece, but all the times I've been there I always found the wine to be mediocre, I've never had an excellent Greek wine

I've never had an excellent Greek wine

Excellent or even good Greek wine doesn't exist, because boomers unironically ripped our best vineyards out in the 70s and 80s. Out of all the agricultural scandals in Greece (there are a lot of them) this is the one that pisses me off the most.

can't you make new ones

west meds have more angular and defined features

I think that's only true for iberians,most italians look more east med to me

Any half-decent Greek wine that's sold today comes from new vineyards, but building the know-how for excellent wine takes decades.

what's the best sweet red italian wine? no color, no flavor so i don't like white wines. i don't like dry wines either, if i wanted something that didn't taste like fruit juice i wouldn't be drinking fermented grape juice, so the fruitier the better.
what village should i go to?

also what village should i go to for the best limoncello? is the amalfi coast good for it?

I hope your industry recovers

Interesting, because the fact I explained above always seemed very surprising to me, considering your tradition in wine-making lasting millennia

I love Greece and Greek people anyway

It was a total shitshow back then, centuries-old vineyards were torn down and replaced with low-quality-high-volume trash, and many local varietals almost went extinct. I cannot overstate the amount of damage the 70s and 80s did to our wine industry.

average 24 yo cypriot

t-thats not trueeee

Let me guess (spiritual) boomers?

do you have any idea how many 10,000 year old traditions were destroyed when the hellenization and romanization of mount lebanon happened? even the egyptians weren't half as destructive. the art of dyeing with argamon (dye used for royal purple) is basically completely lost because the roman aristocracy completely trashed the cultural tradition. these were traditions that had a direct line of descent from the very first permanent villages humans ever made, predating even the advent of agriculture. these days there are even lebanese who scream and cry about the worship of the cedars, despite being one of the few pieces of culture still around from the neolithic. and also the cedars are dying out in their own homeland.

old traditions die all the time and it happens in an instant. it's usually just because someone somewhere is being greedy and short-sighted. shit happens i guess. 10,000 years is a drop in the bucket when you consider humans have been kicking around for a couple million years. who knows where the future will take us? it is just as the buddha says: the only thing that is eternal is change. the root of suffering is attachment. he kind of cooked on that.

Its not that. climate matters more than variety of grapes, there is no good greek wine being exported because of some bullshit greek law prohibiting winemakers to brand their product in wine testing events and only promote it in bulk as "greek wine". So good batches and bad batches dont matter as an importer you can only test varieties in bulk not from specific producers

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That low only exists because PASOK wanted to promote retsina in order to corner the low-end market (batch quality doesn't matter when producing retsina since the resination process covers any flaw the wine might have), and pressured co-ops to switch production. Κυριολεκτικά όλες οι παθογένειες του Ελληνικού οίνου προέρχονται άπο αποτυχημένες αγροτικές πολιτικές του 80.

Same country

ΠΑΣΟΚ ΠΑΣΟΚ ΠΑΣΟΚ pasok derangement syndrome, next you are gonna mention the nissan factory in volos

Something similar happened in this shithole as well.
Commies deracinated 500+ endemic varieties only to mass produce “the most efficient” 5-7.

What does Nissan have to do with agricultural policy?

trying to pit brothers against one another

it fails

Nice try ameri-juden

did you kniw italy has the best preserved ancent greek temples?
Dis you also know that Syracuse, Sicily was the most important ancient greek city? (yes most important than athens or sparta). Did you know that modern Greeks are trying to hide this?

VGH

thats what koulidiots and dapitaria ultimately mention whenever blaming pasok for all of greece's woes, conveniently forgetting to mention the damage caused by mitsotakis senior the "tariff master" when he was a minister of karamanlis, or papaligouras nationalization of banks and failing commodity producing industries (not just olympic airlines)

they are not they actually boast about calabrians and grico being greek, but at the same time claim that arvanites are not albanian

last but not least , did you know that italian are more similar to ancient greeks than modern day greeks?

No.

Megale Hellas... VGH...

calabrians and grico being greek

they are genetically on Greek island level

but at the same time claim that arvanites are not albanian

they are not, genetically they cluster on South-Greek mainland level even further South than Thessalians and Epirotes

stfu polentone

The Messapians were Illyrians, came from the Balkans (the Calabrians too actually), they were apparently very war-like people. I was reading this book about pre-roman tribes in italy and the author wrote that the Greeks didn't want to start shit with them even though the plains of Puglia were coveted being one of the most fertile areas of Italy, so that must've meant they were hard-asses o algo

I blame the byzantinx for this

What happened to one face one race?

I don't know or care about Nissan, but I do know our agriculture, and while Koulis is an absolute wanker that treats our farmers and produce like shit (we'd be toast if it wasn't for the EU's CAP), many endemic problems really did start with PASOK. The degradation of our wines is just one particularly egregious example.

did you ask grok for that talebian "muh haplogroup" scientistic bullshit ? arberesh and albanian's people languages originate from the same area if greece can lay cultural claims on grico and calabrians so can they on arberesh and arvanites

Gtfo
I like greece and we are similiar but we are not the same people or brothers. The only country id call brother nation is san marino and thats not even a real country

so what they were tributaries of Syracuse

Hed fit right in over here

Were they? I didn't know that. It was just the author being baffled at the fact that the Greeks didn't go for that area, and his explanation was that the Messapians spacavan botilia

well I get your point
Albanians are similar to Central Italians and mainland Greeks on the genetical level anyway
the difference is that they are the inbred Mediterranean version of dagestanis that no one takes serious compared to Greeks and Italians

I'd say people take their coke cartels pretty seriously

To the surprise of literally no one

And by the way, the Calabrians (a Illyrian people) lived in Puglia! not in Calabria, so it doesn't make any sense to call that region ''Calabria'' now, it should be called Bruttium because it was inhabited by the Bruttii (an Italic people who descended from the Lucani), this is why Calabria has been lagging so much, it's been misgendered and deadnamed

una faccia una razza

arvanites are just dehellenized greeks
grico were always greek

All the Italics, who made the greatest empire ever, got ethnically replaced by hordes from the Middle East by the end of the empire. Italian peninsula has never recovered from this, even though it got some fresh German bloods to revitalize itself. The first Great Replacement happened there. The reason you never see Modern Italians claim Ancient Rome is because they know subconsciously they didn’t actually built the civilization. They are merely descendants of the guests.

Waaa waaa waa shut the fuck up with your haploautism

heterosexual sex
corruption

Dis you also know that Syracuse, Sicily was the most important ancient greek city? (yes most important than athens or sparta)

It wasn't. Athens was the cultural and intellectual center but Syracuse was the most important Greek colony.

italians and greeks are literally the intermediate between East and West Med populations in terms of admixture
they are the perfect blend of both

did you know the greeks invented sex and the romans discovered you could do it with women too?

Ackshually we do claim Rome and we have overshadowed the past in everything but military expansion

The city grew and prospered, and for some time stood as the most powerful Greek city anywhere in the Mediterranean. Colonies were founded at Akrai (664 BC), Kasmenai (643 BC), Akrillai (7th century BC), Helorus (7th century BC) and Kamarina (598 BC)

All the Japonics, who made the greatest east Asian civilization ever, got ethnically replaced by hordes from China by the end of the empire. Japanese archipelago has never recovered from this, even though it got some fresh Korean bloods to revitalize itself. The first Great Replacement happened there. The reason you never see Modern Japanese claim the Yamatai kingdom and Jomon culture is because they know subconsciously they didn’t actually built the civilization. They are merely descendants of the guests.

I honestly doubt that some random Takeshi would write shit bait like that, whenever you read crap like that from other flags like Japan, Korea, etc you can almost always assume it's an american expat

Exactly

no citation

You should try heterosexual sex with humans next

Personally, i assume all mexican/japanese flags are secret brazilians and mexicans especially if theyre chuds. No hate to mexicans and brazilians in general, love you guys

In verità gli asiatici sono dei subumani ritardati che dovrebbero essere annichiliti

Nicely put
(Im not that guy)

Pay debt

got ethnically replaced by hordes from the Middle East

Those ''hordes from the middle east'' were literally anatolian greeks who were the descendants of homer thaled anaximander hesiod etc and were the ones responsible for making the empire great. Rome before their arrival was just a strong state.

You are so fucking dumb, bet you think greek colonies were the same as modern age European colonies

no need to be rude

I didn't even called him fat and retarded like I usually do when interacting with unitedstatians

my boomer uncle told me the same bullshit about the "hellenic" race of arvanites a week ago, did kolanteridis grivas filis and the like make a youtube video about arvanites? according to paparrigopoulos, hence the official greek stance on the matter, part of the official ministry of education curriculum, is that they were allogeneic settlers that left for turkey and anatolia after the revolution (i.e settled in other places in greece)

Syracuse was larger and stronger because Sicily is fertile and prosperous while Greece is an arid rocky shithole