SAAAAAR WE ARE CENTRAL EUROPEAN SAAAAR

SAAAAAR WE ARE CENTRAL EUROPEAN SAAAAR

SAAAR NO EASTERN EUROPE THAT IS ZAINICHI RUSSIAN SAAAAAAAR

yeah. "Central European" literally does not mean anything.

central europe is the same cope
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_N-M231

Central European is a valid category. It's the geographic center of Europe.

the current narrative is central east europe but it sounds weird in english it's not like eastern central europe but it's both central and eastern europe

If Central Asia, Central America and central Africa
are all commonly accepted terms then so can be central Europe

It simply means "too eastern to be western, too western to be eastern"

Also Finn's are the last people on earth who can call us out on that, since Finland got lucky after WW2 when it was reclassified into Nordic states because other Baltic states lost their statehood. Before WW2 no one thought about Finland as part of Scandinavia.

they didnt get lucky they fought for it. while you had garbage tactics led by Piłsudski Finland had il capitano, Mannerheim. also finns dont shit their pants like poles do when faced with peril

The fuck you on about Ahmed, we 1on1 soviet union. Shit for brains.

This basically, idk why the term triggers so many people

your samaratian ass or whatever you call yourself got whiped of the map for 300 years and the only reason you are back on it now is because the brits decided to scrap their entire empire

Poles were always there... its the same as saying Finland didnt exist for centuries... it existed it just wasnt independant

we 1on1 soviet union

Literally never happened. Even the Polish-Soviet war was just the USSR alone versus Poland with everyone else's support in the region.

123 years mehmed and we always fought for it, so suck my dick while I'll laugh and call you shit for brains once again

yeah so it didnt exist just like finland then? im not saying that poles or finns didnt exist but if you dont have a nation state you dont have a nation state its not rocket science

Why did Poles get conquered with a much larger population than Finland, while Finland didn't? At least the Balts can say they're small.

Czechoslovaks literally attacked us and took Zaolzie during our war with soviet union. So you're wrong.

cry about me one more time in your national anthem first im so close to paint your pretty polack face with my sperm

Spot on tbf

The East-West divide in Europe is inane. I wish Europe would just admit that it’s just a pretend continent—it’s nothing but the stubby, crowded Western end of Eurasia. A subcontinent at best. Who cares how far East (of Greenwich?) you are?

topography plays a big roll, you cant roll in with heavy mechanized infantry and tanks in finland like you can do in poland. but their leadership was garbage and if france would have gone all in they might have been able to prevent it. also germanys warfare and tactics where groundbreaking. so compitent germans and incompitent poles as always

TSAAAAAAAR

they fought for it.

Swedes did, ethnic Finns were mostly pro-commie.

It's very easy, Poland was a large country that got attacked by 3 other strong countries. There's not a lot you can do if you're 3 vs 1 from 3 sides.

The saddest thing about Mannerheim is that he didnt even speak Finnish
Idk it just seems relly heart breaking

You can talk big all you want but we both know that outside the net you'd beg me to stop jumping on your fucking muzzie face after like 30 secs of our meeting

lets make it easy for you to understand
Mannerheim spoke as good Finnish as Kaj did in time when speaking it was not part of common education

What the fuck are you talking about, Finland fought ONLY about the USSR while we fought against the USSR and Germany at once, how is that even comparable? If the Soviet Union was our only enemy in 1939 we would have easily defeated them same like we previously did in 1920, we were well prepared for a war against Russians, not so much against Germans

They did have border disputes with you, but if we're counting that as them collaborating with the USSR (which no historian does, see the Czechoslovak Legion), then your side still hugely outnumbered the USSR side.
The USSR was "more alone".

he was a tsarist that only makes him more kino

What side??? Czechoslovak attack was war, soldiers, artillery etc. What did "our" side do? Provide some resources? Yes and that's it. At some point Poland waged war vs ussr and czechoslovakia at the same time.

Estonia was richer than Finland before 1940, how can Finns seriously think they're hot shit muh Nordic scandi welfare state humanitarian superpower?
Also, they didn't win shit, 1939-40 war meant nothing, Finland was completely defeated in 1944 and just because Stalin didn't annex/subdue Finland was his bargaining chip in negotiations with the west, he didn't need Finland that much since it doesn't hold much strategic value (other than Petsamo and these Baltic navy bases which Stalin easily squeezed out of Finland)

the poznan army fucked up and the home front armys biggest victory is to revolt in a jewish ghetto they could have done much better if they had compitent leadership but polish people doesnt want that they want grugg with absolute power. also Finland and Poland arent comparable in anyways Finland is the worlds most northen agricultural country, small population but maximize their citizens while poland is poland

Stop bullying poland! They suffered a lot thanks to the russian empire.

the poznan army fucked up

How does it even matter, we couldn't win against Germany anyway and whatever wed have done would have been nothing that prolonging our agony, not even France could and we were attacked from both side. Whatever this or that particular army or general could or couldn't have done better had zero relevance in the greater scheme of things.
The only thing that counts is that if we had been attacked only by the incompetent Soviet shithole, we would have won it, like we always did 1 vs 1. But because we were attacked also by Germany, we lost and that makes it incomparable to Finland.

nobody is bullying but that post soviet shithole should mellow their attitude

muzzie exploding from it's anus like a volcano

Bueno

Provide some resources? Yes and that's it.

Wars are won on two things: manpower and resources. They didn't just provide "some" resources, you had every country in Europe providing lots of resources to make Poland into a shield against the Bolsheviks.
The USSR was the closest to being alone. It isn't even a debate.

we wuz bullied and shieee lol

ur not too fucking western to be eastern where the fuck does this cope come from, ur culture is wholeheartidly eastern european, u have 100x more in common with ukraine, belarus etc when it comes to language, culture, genetics, aestethics, than germany or any other western euro country

t. been to poland and all over europe countless of times

Why your Norwegian or Danish Viking ubermensch brothers couldn't win against Germans if apparently Scandi states can "maximize their citizens", whatever it means?

of course it matters if you manage to delay deffeat in order to get the UK and France in line. but sure nothing matters and you are always the victim even when you attacked czechoslovakia you was the victim all along. i tell you what the jews might not longer live in poland but their victim complex sure stuck with you people

u have 100x more in common with ukraine, belarus

It's completely not true, though it's also diversed regionally (just like it is in Germany)

same reason india is a fucking shithole and sweden isnt; genetics.

but thats a conversation people here arent ready to have

i ment democracy and meritocracy i know this are unknown concepts to you

in order to get the UK and France in line.

Lmao, they didn't even plan to come. The war against Germany technically made no sense, it was simply symbolic but nothing more. France itself got rolled over in 1 month as well.

We waged war on 2 fronts and couldnt get those resources shipped to us because czechoslovakia was attcking us and germany was hostile and blocking them.

You had every country in europe providing

What a load of horseshit. History illiterate is the most delicate thing I can say about this. Name that whole Europe than lmao

Your white genetics is yet losing the major battle because your white women don't want to breed and transfer their reportedly superior genes to the new generations. Why?

PLC was richer than than HRE for quite some time but that's a conversation stock up, delusional cucks aren't ready to have lmao

We were talking about the war. No amount of meritocracy could have let us defend against Germany, same like neither could any of the continental western European states.

what's with you and cuck shit? i can guarantee that you come from a single mother household

no amount of the right guy at the right post could have saved us

what?

Lets swap places in europe and your nafri tax scam pretending to be a country will be gone in few years

Dogs are barking but the caravan moves on.
Poland is formally recognized as a central European state and will be only seen like that more often because we're getting richer and firstified.

Firsties are afraid of losing their privileged position but at the end it doesn't matter, they can't do shit

Germans would have always outcompeted us, simply. I'm not going to argue that we were better than Germans, that's pointless, no one was.

Do poles IRL think they are western europeans or is it just some 4chud nutters who live in their own personal fantasyland? Iron curtain, hello?

think they are western europeans

Not even once

they have zero self awareness in their mind they are second to France

You think I seethe when I see this img but I think based. You might have a great misconception about what we're like.

If we thought we are western Europeans then we wouldn't call ourselves central Europeans.
We accept our eastern component but it's only part of our identity hence we are central

no i just wanted to post some finnish heroes

And that's very fine with me, highest of respect to them

That Polish obsession about centralness is mostly over-reaction to how westerners always treated us. Their stereotype about our country only focused on what was exotic to westoids so our grey dirty commieblocks and illiterate farmers ploughing their land with wooden devices with a fuming toxic factory in the background. And while this part is also true, we are butthurt that no one sees the other part so pretty historical towns, landscapes, nature and so on. Westoids don't notice these because they have better stuff at home but still it is here and shouldn't be ignored.

Combining these two images makes us neither western nor eastern which in result gives central

Same with americans see us mexicans, they only show the desert with cactuses and poverty, but we have more cool things like them, not only that.

youtu.be/Km6KYN_6vmc?si=PztakP-ESyCY8bzr

stop bullying them, Poles get too much hate already

He was a remnant from Monarchist Ancien Regime times, a living relic, you wouldn't understand.

did you know Mannerheim loved Poland???

Probably all non-western nations, especially those being close to the west but not exactly there, face the same problem.

I mean, no one tries to claim that we are western but westerners try to gatekeep their status and not allow even getting close to it for anyone who wasn't seen as western already in the cold war era period as if 50 years could have erased the previous hundreds of years of history.

He was relocated to Poland as an officer during Russian Empire era and even spoke some Polish.

Poland and Finland had cordial relations in the interwar period, btw.

Yes he was stationed there in his youth and got along with Polish soldiers. He had his own Uhlan (lancer) regiment there I think.

not bad for a living relic

"Eastern Europe" as a concept only came into being due to the Iron wall. There's no reason to draw a line through the middle of Europe now that it's gone and we're all part of the same political entity anyway

Why did Poles get conquered with a much larger population than Finland, while Finland didn't?

shit, I dunno, there was this thing called Nazi Germany, I think it had something to do with Poland during WW2

downright denial

c o p e

we have pajeets delivering food
we are western okay

Germany wasn't helping or hurting anyone because of what they just went through.
The major players of Europe were helping you. In fact, I even forgot about this little country called the United States of America. My apologies.
See pic related. Like I said before, it's about manpower and resources, not just one of them. The USSR was a dumpster fire after its civil war and its manpower wasn't made up of professional well-supplied soldiers.

Woah that's the whole le Europe!! It's tiny? I thought it's 30+ states!

How much troops did "support:" send to Poland?

and its manpower wasn't made up of professional well-supplied soldiers.

The army was one of its greatest sources of supporters and Trotsky wasn't called the red Napoleon for mere propaganda reasons.

when are you going back hivan

I was being hyperbolic to get my point across that all major military powers were on your side.
Do you think the World Wars involved every single state across the world too?
I don't know the numbers, but this is pretty interesting: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Daugavpils. Soviets were outnumbered and lost hard.
Not all "armies" are the same. The USSR's army at that period was just a horde of whoever survived the civil war.
Also it wasn't Trotsky who was nicknamed "Red Napoleon" in that specific war, but Tukhachevsky. Propaganda definitely played a big part.

Appeal to VPN just because I screenshotted Wikipedia

It's all so tiresome.

uhhhh it never happened

uhhhh it doesn't count because you had some irrelevant support on paper

uhhhh it doesn't count because katsaps weren't properly trained when invading

hardest coping I've seen this month
incredible how over a century later you hivans still can't get over getting your ass kicked back to muttscow

who said anything about vpn? I know you're a pidor in NZ