But at what cost?
But at what cost?
people should search up chinese wages and work hours and i think the ccp's gains would lose favor with western audiences
They can't be directly compared because the price of housing is much different than here. In China you can rent something for less than 200 dollars a month in a large city
Americans are getting fucked financially even though we have the highest salaries in the world in absolute terms
The only tangible result of this is booming hoeflation among female Chinese international college students. China still has no soft power.
China is still mogged in soft power by Korea and Japan and will be for a long time yet, no matter how much they try to rip off those countries' cultural trends. Anime, manga, kpop etc are normie-tier in the west. It's gonna take a lot more than one ADHD streamer exclusively watched by wigger zoomers to compete with that
youre so dumb
if you take just shanghai as one example the average price for rent is 900 usd
average salary is $1,879 USD
english.shanghai.gov.cn
What about in other cities?
you think im gonna go search?
probably about the same in other cities
i just looked at shanghai cause it's a best case scenario with wages
bring your own evidence if you want to make a point
that’s like taking NYC as an example for the entire usas rent / income
then find another city and show the average salary and average wages
im not gonna do more research beyond this
cause right now youre making a claim and providing zero evidence
But at what cost?
hundreds of billions siphoned through USAID into NGOs to spread propaganda
your fat
if you take just shanghai as one example
that's like me picking new york
faggot im hearing nothing from the three different flags who responded to me
typical butthurt ccp shills
fuck you
americans are absolutely feral about china, you are so demoralized by propaganda it's insane
whats bro yapping about
long hours low salary and high rents in cities is usaid propaganda
zzzzzzz
long hours low salary and high rents in cities is usaid propaganda
yes, americans work on average more than almost any developed nation on earth
Its over
But not for xi
China
Managed to build a gazillion cities and decent infrastructure in the last ten years
NIMBYazieriKKKa
Built one (1) skyscraper after a 20 year debate about whether there should be 14 or 15 parking spots
the average in the us is 42 hours a week
which honestly is fine
problem is your prestige within the party is tied to how much shit you can build so half of these projects end up being quite useless
trains that didnt need to get built or entire apartment buildings that end up just getting demolished
which honestly is fine
that's not up to you to decide, you are objectively wrong
ec.europa.eu
they built something, even if needless, while americans whined about stupid shit forever
there's a fine line between number of working hours and overall productivity of the society
on the one hand america shouldnt be like china and have everything tied to work but on the other it shouldnt be like europe where people are too loose
this is one of the reasons (there are many others) as to why europe hasnt kept up with america over the past few decades
yeah that's all well and good till youve racked up the debts, the construction jobs fade, and the real estate market crashes
china's economy isnt doing so hot you know recently
that's just your profoundly dogshit and worthless opinion it doesn't change the fact that you were blatantly wrong and still havent apologized to me for it
you're just describing america
for what?
that i think working 8-5 mon-fri is a perfectly reasonable work week?
all you look at is personal benefit while i have an actual eye to society
you think im gonna go search?
Why wouldn't you? You're the one making the argument.
that i think working 8-5 mon-fri is a perfectly reasonable work week?
yeah i think you should get your lazy ass off the porch and do some real work you fat yank, below 50h a week is a hobby not work
look up poland
within three hours (38.9) of america
youre literally us shut up
no i took shanghai as a sample and ive heard the same thing from other people that it's basically the same in most major chinese cities
no if youre claiming that it's not like that then i want to see some actual evidence
i was wrong but i moved the goalpost
i will accept your apology
no i took shanghai as a sample
Without looking it up? So where did you get the screenshot?
how come you attach yourself to the more impressive countries of the eu before poland huh?
happy i asked chatgpt to make me a table and it came back with this
which completely validates what i was saying
I used the google search you did and came back with this. Strange that you didn't ask for average prices across all of China and focused only on a specific city.
Very curious indeed.
your
i took it literally from the government website you retard
english.shanghai.gov.cn
According to you took it from a google AI search. And yet you chose to pick a city instead of going for national averages.
Curious. Very curious indeed.
look this is for guangzhou
says 1 bedroom in city center is 3,613.33
average salary is ¥11,120 and median is ¥9,001
the median is probably more representative cause average is top heavy especially in large cities
which is 40%
numbeo.com
and you could probably go on for other cities
what does poland (3 less work hours per week compared to the US btw) have to do with the fact that relative to europe US is equivalent to china in terms of living conditions?
Based on my own gpt search, China enjoys better housing security and less homelessness than America.
i give it 10 more minutes before he starts spamming webms
yeah no shit cause in america you cant lock people up simply for existing in the street (which i dont like by the way)
in china if youre an eyesore theyll just throw you either into some kind of communal housing or lock you up somewhere
america also has a million times more nogs than china so if that's your compassion then yeah china is better in that regard
but the discussion was about the average joe and how much theyll pay for housing
and the other issue is china only privatized the housing market in the 90's so at that point many bought their apartments for cheap
that isnt going to be the case going into further generations
The cost of American influence abroad. But China wasn't the one that eroded that in all fairness.
People need to stop using """average""" when trying to get a picture of the lifestyle somewhere. Median is far more telling.
--> >the median is probably more representative cause average is top heavy especially in large cities
i mean honestly what does it matter if people hallucinate what life in china is actually like
why does it even matter
Yes, that was my point.
Why does anything?
yeah no shit cause in america you cant lock people up simply for existing in the street (which i dont like by the way)
america also has a million times more nogs than china so if that's your compassion then yeah china is better in that regard
I think you make good points here and we're generally in agreement. Overall rare Anon Babble consensus W.