100 years have passed and my country is still politically and culturally divided along old imperial borders

100 years have passed and my country is still politically and culturally divided along old imperial borders

People who vote orange live like this:
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People who vote blue live like this:
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yeah but this doesn't have anything to do with germany and to pretend it does would be being silly.

Why would Germany do this?

but this doesn't have anything to do with germany

It does, you brought whatever piece of civilization we ever had in this country. Thanks for that, btw.

a nation...divided

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Who's right and who's wrong?
Yesterday one Polish anon told me it's over for Poland because Trzaskowski is winning or something.

Why did so many diaspora Poles vote for the chuddie candidates?

because Trzaskowski is winning or something.

actually Trzaskowski is currently even more likely to lose because the 3rd and 4th candidates (with 15% and 6% votes respectively) are super-chuds and their voters will most likely vote Nawrocki (chud-lite). Though it will be a really close contest, whoever wins it will be probably by max 1-2%

100 years have passed and my country is still politically and culturally divided along old imperial borders

That's nothing. You can still see the Roman borders in German statistics about happiness in life

Diaspora people from eastern Europe mostly belong to lower, working class so they naturally vote chuds, everywhere. You see the same pattern with Turks in Germany, also Romanian diaspora also voted their chuds mostly afaik.

It's just about lack of education combined with resentments towards the west where they feel like they're 2nd category residents.

in Romania it goes along ethnic lines, yes? (Hungarians voting liberals, Romanians voting chuds). In Poland it's weird since (at least on paper) we're all Polish Poles without any ethnic or linguistic differences. There aren't even easily traceable cultural differences between regions, other than vaguely defined "mentality", which is weirdly clearly reflected in the election.

Fun fact: Poles couldn't even build a house without Germans, because the Polish words for both the brick ("cegła") and the roof ("dach") come from German.

No mate. Its not. most Transilvnaians vote liberal...regardless if they are Hungarian or not.

Can you tell me the difference between them? What's the gov plan of orange and blue?

orange - libs, pro-EU, pro-west, anti-Russia, economically more free market-orientedgenerally centre-left big tent
blue - conservatives, EU-skeptic, pro-Trump, anti-Russia, , economically more socialist-oriented, generally centre-right big tent

Are Poles honorary Brahmin?

I hope Poland will have the wisdom to resist this German puppet who wants to turn Poland into a German fiefdom.
Dear Poles, go out and vote for Karol Nawrocki, this is the last chance to prevent another partition of Poland

Ok m8
as for Poland, probably the biggest difference between west or east is that the west is slightly richer, more urbanized and it has some impact on the culture and mentality. People seem to trust the state more there, most importantly.

In the east, people generally want the state to fuck off from them (because the state is thought to be only a thief) and they only care about their own house and land (and often care very well about it), while what is public, already belongs to no one and no one cares.

This is probably the biggest mental difference that being influenced by Germany vs being influenced by Russia does to mf

100 years of Polish colonialism can't erase reality

Neither a 1000 years of Panslavism will. East Germany will make your mind go un-pole itself.

Give the map

Orange seems better due to being pro free market, especially in a moment where polish economy is growing fast.

Polish and Indian cultures have surprisingly many similarities in lots of areas, this is why Poles and Indians in the UK make relationships so often

Also, how does being eu skeptic makes sense in Poland? The eu invested billions in Poland, I knew a girl who studied in one of the unis build by EU when the uni is amazing, too notch equipment and education quality.

So you're saying the orange side is filled with cucks and queeroids?

Orange seems better due to being pro free market, especially in a moment where polish economy is growing fast.

The economy is growing quickly on paper but many people feel like they do not profit much from it, especially in rural areas and small towns, since current-era economic growth is more concentrated in big cities. Also working class people think they're job opportunities are undercut by a large wave of immigrants working for little money.

why is western poland so progressive? wasn't that part (pomerania, silesia) basically colonized post ww2 from poles coming from the annexed parts of the USSR?
why are they so liberal compared to the east?

Also, how does being eu skeptic makes sense in Poland?

It's not easy to explain but generally it's the inferiority complex mixed with contrarianism. That's how humans are built, it's the same like teenagers rebel against their parents even though their parents gave them everything they had, or same like firsties complain about their governments and countries even though they objectively live in a paradise.

I don't want Poland to endure more rule of law concerns or lose vital EU funds thanks to chudorocki

Also, Poles aren't even an exception there, think of East Germans who have been flooded with free money from the west since 1990 yet they still complain, still think they would be doing better without it and still vote chuds.

why is western poland so progressive? wasn't that part (pomerania, silesia) basically colonized post ww2 from poles coming from the annexed parts of the USSR?

yes, sociologists usually think this was exactly the reason - these people were outrooted from their traditional communities and cultural pressure which is always present in such communities, so they turned more liberal.

It's like a conservative, traditional girl from a village moving to a big city for studying and suddenly turning into a promiscuous, liberated one.

It's Polish delusion of grandeur. I hate you vermin so much. If my people received 1% the support you got from the Wect, we would be having flying cars.

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you received a similar amount of money like Poland or all other eastern European countries before you elected chuds

cool propaganda piece you fucking gsv autist faggot retard
mental how there are 13 candidates yet only 2 colours on the map

that's really weird

Polish and Indian cultures have surprisingly many similarities

wtf is this true?

i think it's normal, it's the same how south Italian immigrants who moved to the US became more liberal than their cousins who stayed in Sicily or Calabria.

grok confirms it is saar

builds aluminium sheet fence it's impossible to see through (most important)

slaps asbestos panels onto the house

burns plastic waste in the wood stove

litters neighbour's yard

we wuz sovereign and shieeet

what? italian-americans are the back bone of the republican party in the east coast
if you see staten island is red every NYC mayoral election

what? italian-americans are the back bone of the republican party in the east coast

support for republican party doesn't mean conservatism in this sense
the point is that they're not religious and catholic anymore and their italian traditions are nothing more than pure larp

yeah, pretty much

the point is that they're not religious and catholic anymore and their italian traditions are nothing more than pure larp

the LARP thing is true, but every immigrant group to the new world was assimilated into oblivion
idk about how religious the italian americans are compared to their southern counterparts so I wont comment on that

hungarians in romania vote liberal

hungarians in hungary are über chuds

what causes this?

In the 90s and 2000s some older people living in commieblocks would claim the jointly owned lawn around the building for themselves, put up a fence and kept chickens or brew booze in a still, which gives off an awful smell as the plums ferment. This was peak sovereignty.

You're talking to a ruspoops under HU VPN, he's been here for a few weeks now crying about Poland every day

Polish worship didn't start in 2004. West has been trying to exterminate us since 1914.

You had one of the most urbane and civilized populations in EE at the start of our democratic journey and you failed miserably. Hungary should have been Czech Republic or Slovenia tier. Now you're behind peasant nations.

No, we have been stripped of our land, cities and resources. We are a dead nation all, because Westoids hate us for not being Slavs.

But you are Slavs. Westoids seem to like us and Lithuanians anyway so..

are you kidding? The West has always treated Hungary kinder that it would have deserved

Poland was divided into three, right? The Prussian part, the Russian part, and the Austrian part? Are there any differences between former Prussian territory and Austrian?

Lmao

anyway, im pretty sure if a rural terroni moves to Torino, he (and especially his family in 2nd generation) also becomes comparatively more liberal than his cousins back home

yes, this thing was present here too

No, we have been stripped of our land, cities and resources.

irrelevant, look at Estonia, they don't have any land or real cities let alone resources and they're still doing good

yeah this happens
still politically (not culturally) the extreme north is way more conservative than the rest of the nation
terronis vote for the gibs party

Are there any differences between former Prussian territory and Austrian?

In 19th century we had a saying which I guess sums it up.

In Prussia you don't need to bribe anyone and you get things done

In Austria you need to bribe someone but you get things done.

In Russia you need to bribe everyone and still nothing gets done.

Are there any differences between former Prussian territory and Austrian?

Politically Austrian and Russian parts vote the same way (chuds) as opposed to Prussian ones but in terms of living standards, general mentality etc. I'd say "Austrian Poles" are generally most individualist out of all Poles but also seem to care about their own surroundings more than "Russian Poles", though again care less about public space than "Prussian Poles".

When you look at individual houses, usually these from former Austrian part look very good but when you look at the whole space, infrastructure and so on, usually Prussian ones win.

Is bribery still practiced in Russian or Austrian parts of Poland?

Which region during the partition had the most autonomy? Prussia I know was considered fully German by the authorities, but didn't Poles have a bit more control over Congress Poland and Galicia? I could be totally wrong

that one tranny pole who is always seething

you lost. catholicism won

working class people think they're job opportunities are undercut by a large wave of immigrants working for little money.

think? or accurately realize? fucking only brainwashed imbeciles dont think immigration has an impact on the labour market

Recovered terrtories are shithole

by ukros in western poland

prussia, also it was considered Polish

by ukros in western poland

lmao really?

they also commit bribery in germany

this thread is made by a churka mentally ill rusnigger

i'd say it's less about outright bribery nowadays but due to stronger community ties there is more clan-like mentality, unspoken nepotism, preferring your own family/community members over foreigners etc. The peak of this mentality can be seen among the Górals (polonized Romanians) who live in Podhale (former Austria).

He stated hes some kind of tatarnigger but desu i have no idea at this point
What I know is that he's mental, cuckposts, loves brownshits, knows a lot about muslimshit religion, lives with his mother

Which region during the partition had the most autonomy?

depends on the period, in early 19th century it was unironically Russia, then around 1840s - Prussia and then from 1867 onwards - Austria. But since the Austrian period is most recent and lasted for the longest period of time, it is commonly associated with the highest degree of autonomy in Polish historiography.

Prussia I know was considered fully German by the authorities

I wouldn't say so, they did recognize the fact that Poles were a majority there, just their solution to unify the country was to germanize these Poles, rather than try to make compromise with them (which is what Austrians sought instead)

Górals (polonized Romanians)

SHUT THE FUCK UP RUSNIGGER THEY ARE NOT GYPSIES

Anyone got that gif or webm of Braun and fire extinguisher?

source?

THEY ARE NOT GYPSIES

sure, neither are Romanians
but generally when you have a more insight into Góral culture, it's 100% Balkan mentality, also architecture, music and everything is Balkan too. They literally form family clans (with weird nicknames) which define their personal identity and sense of belonging more than whatever national identity.

i guess magic german soil makes them into uberman

but generally when you have a more insight into Góral culture, it's 100% Balkan mentality, also architecture, music and everything is Balkan too. They literally form family clans (with weird nicknames) which define their personal identity and sense of belonging more than whatever national identity.

that's how slovaks are
but you living in siberia HAS NO FUCKING KNOWLEDGE WHO SLOVAKS ARE
east shit and die rusnigger

that's how slovaks are

yes, Slovaks are already Balkan-influenced too
everything south of Kraków is already Balkan to my eyes, just with a varying degree of Balkanness, generally increasing intensity once you travel down south

I watch Tageschau daily and they never say anything about Ukrainian bribery

you live in asia rusnigger

their form of corruption is too advanced for germans to understand

western Poles prefer nuclear families and usually live in low, one-storey houses like pic rel

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this is literally poverty level

this is not nuclear family but not being able to afford 2nd children

how do i invest in poland

eastern Poles on the other hand, prefer multigenerational families and build huge, 3-4 storey houses where they live together with their parents, grandparents, brothers' and sisters' families

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also, in western Poland people tend not to have fences or very low ones, like you see in meanwhile in eastern Poland fences are a must

buy WIG

they just have a lot of kids retard

this is so weird looking

they just have a lot of kids retard

it's not true

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only to Americans who are used to something else
but the point is that in western Poland people don't care about family ties that much and prefer to form small, nuclear families

in eastern Poland people exhibit a more family-oriented, clanish mentality

it doesn't really translate to higher TFR nowadays, though

those houses are from the 90s

stupid not knowing anything rusnigger

SHUT THE FUCK UP RUSNIGGER

those houses are from the 90s

it doesn't matter, there were never significant TFR differences in Poland between the west and east

the only groups with notably higher TFR than the rest of Poles are Kashubians and Górals, probably because of their staunch religiosity and feeling of separateness from the rest of Poles (kinda like the Amish).

it doesn't matter, there were never significant TFR differences in Poland between the west and east

ofc thery were why are you like this rusnigger?

The rusdog schizo cuck that posts under Polish flag is same tier as that kid who made up the scottish Wiki