The only eastern European country with its own peculiar, distinct culture that is not just a cheap rip off and mix of several nearby cultures.
The only eastern European country with its own peculiar...
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you're just a Croat mixed with Turks
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They are basically mongoloids who aped European culture
Oxymoron
Perhaps the paradox of your existence is why you behave so antisocially.
they suck
except when you say "Hungarian X" (be it architecture, cuisine, music, lifestyle etc.) you just have an image of that, it's clearly distinguishable from the usual eastern Euro slop.
But when you say Polish, Slovak, Latvian or Bulgarian X, it evokes completely zero thoughts about what it can be, other than that it must be some mix of whatever German and Russian, just in different proportions.
Yes true.
No one asked, nerd.
We have nothing to do with them, we did not participate in their ethnogenesis. Serbs are a mixture of Turks, Gypsies and Vlachs.
Hungarian food is great
Serbs are a mixture of Turks, Gypsies and Vlachs.
could be, still the point is that they are a mix of something and it's hard to tell what is genuine Serbian culture that is not taken/shared with a bunch of nationalities near them
and that can be said about pretty much everyone between Germany, Russia and Turkey, except for Hungarians who are like a different universe. Even the way they build houses is different.
Hungarians are Croats and Slovaks who speak that silly language. Nothing about Hungarian is special or different except for that language.
Why is Hungary considered east Europe?
Catholic religion, in union with Austria for centuries
yes, Hungarian food is great and again, no one can clearly say why it is so different from the general eastern Euro slop. I mean, Hungary is literally in the centre of eastern Europe, theoretically all their neighbors should share the same traditions but they don't. Everyone could grow paprika, but only Hungarians made it such a symbol of their national cuisine hence basically forming the whole separate, very distinct national cuisine. With all my sympathy for Balkan states, none of them has truly a separate cuisine, their cuisine is usually a mix of everything from the region, with almost no dishes that would be strongly attached only to one nation/country (that's why they constantly argue about who invented this or that dish) meanwhile in Hungary it is clear, everyone knows what dishes are typically Hungarian and no one dares claim them for themselves because it would be just silly.
Is it possible to think that their nomadic origin had such a big impact on their distinctness even in things like cuisine? I mean, Hungarian cuisine doesn't actually have much to do with nomadic lifestyle, paprika and vegetables overall are not typical for nomadic tribes to eat, well, actually most vegetables' names in Hungarian are clearly Slavic loanwords so Hungarian nomads did not even know them before. But for some reason only them were smart enough to mix them in right proportions and create one of the best culinary experiences in this part of the continent.
You speak the same language
I like paprika. Never knew magyars liked it
They invented it. Paprika is a Hungarian word
Hungarians are Croats and Slovaks who speak that silly language
Sorry but that's just stupid.
There is something like Hungarian cuisine but there isn't anything like a Croatian cuisine. There is not a single dish that would be associated with Croatia and only with Croatia, you just eat Hungarian stuff in eastern Croatia, "Balkan" stuff in south Croatia, Italian stuff in coastal Croatia and German stuff in north Croatia. Not a single vegetable/fruit/meat type/spice that would be particularly associated with Croatia either. If you go to an average restaurant in Croatia, you can choose between pizza-like stuff and kebab-like stuff, nothing "essentially Croat".
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also, that's pretty much my point about all eastern Euro nations (except Hungarians) - they are always weird "cultural frankensteins", what they call their "culture" is a mix of several foreign influences (usually also heavily diversed regionally) with nothing special and distinguishable on its own. Only Hungary is different, their culture is quite coherent and also distinct from everything else across the whole territory where people with Hungarian identity live.
Whats your fav Hungarian dish bros?
For me, its halászlé (Hungarian fish soup)
europeans be like
ooh watch out for zat paprika it packs a real kick
Nothing peculiar, they are brown Balkanites larping as 1000 year old Steppe warriors with very thin evidence. They are as brown as any of their neighbours whom they despise and belittle based on their made up national mythology. At least Romanians say they're just simple peasants who have been here forever. Romania does not spend a sizeable portion of its GDP on promoting PR in the West.
yeah "eastern europe" is not a thing unto itself it's just this knob of clay that god cursed to stand at the intersection of warring hegemonic cultures, and it gets pulled and smeared every which way as the big guys play tug of war with it
you can hate them as much as you want but it means there is something to hate (i.e. a distinct culture/identity). No one hates let's say Moldovans or Belarussians because their identities are very weak and fragile so there is essentially no object of potential hate
yes, and suddenly between all of that you have Hungarians who feel just "out of place" here with how their culture and identity is different and distinct from the usual slop.
You don't make sense, you sound like a faggot too.
I do
When I see Hungarian cuisine or Hungarian architecture, everyone has some associations with that
When you say Romanian architecture or Romanian cuisine - it gives you literally zero idea what it could be other than just general easterneuroslop that could be as well located in Russia, Poland, Serbia or Bulgaria
pwnd that clown
Pannonian slavs with mongol language
We spent over 800 years in the same country. They are exactly the same as some continental Croats. Their food, music, houses, streets look like some Slavonian town.
Yea we created a similar official language for the purpose of Yugoslavia because when we speak like we did in the past or now locally they call us Slovenes or Czechs.
vpn off bozgor subdog trash
or now locally they call us Slovenes or Czechs.
which is the point of that thread...no nation in eastern Europe other than Hungarians had an identity clear enough not to be easily confused for another nation in this whole slop eastern Europe is.
Epic cope, crojeet.
Similar language, from the Alps to the Black Sea there is a linguistic continuum. Let's put it this way - Portugal has one genetics, while Brazilians are a mix of Portuguese, other Europeans, blacks and Indians.
continental Croats.
yet again you don't understand it
if you have such distinction like "continenal Croats", "coastal Croats" etc., it means your culture is not really distinct, because it was influenced regionally by other, stronger cultures
strong cultures are just relatively uniform across its whole territory, so you can easily distinguish certain features attributed to this culture as a whole.
you can't do this with Croats, because continental Croats, coastal Croats, mountainous Croats etc. are so different from each other like totally different people. There is no "Croat" culture this way, nothing that can be associated with all of Croatia without an exception, that's why Croat culture cannot stand comparison to Hungarian culture.
If your country's culture is extremely fractured regionally and the only way of their self-identification is like "in this village we are more like Hungarians, in that village they are more like Italians and in that town over the hills they are almost like Germans", it only proves weakness of your nation and identity.
Poles, Croats, Slovaks, Romanians etc. always define themselves by "who they are similar to" and "who they are surely not similar to" and then they can argue for hours about it.
Meanwhile Hungarians don't use copes like this, they are just Hungarians and everyone knows what it means, they don't need to measure how much German or Turkish or Russian they are or aren't, because they are a distinct culture on their own.
I agree. Croats are mostly brown
I cannot imagine a Hungarian from Pecs describing himself as "we people from Pecs are a bit more like Serbs and Croats" while calling people from Debrecen "a bit more like Romanians" and people from Esztergom "almost like Slovaks". This is just something unimaginable, they don't need to compare themselves to anyone for self-identification. They can obviously feel some internal, regional differences within Hungary but it's never done through comparison to other cultures because they don't need that.
Only weak cultures with inferiority complexes and identity issues like basically all other Eastern Euro nations need that stuff and when someone calls them "almost Turks" they need to reply "nonono saar, I am not almost like a Turk...I am almost like a German!" instead of simply being proud of who they are (because they don't even know who they are in first place).
No dish belongs to just one nation. Croatia as a country is divided into 2-3 cultural, climatic, and linguistic zones, so it's hard to talk about something typically Croatian from the start. It's stupid to call seafood and Croatian dishes that exist on the coast 'Italian', as if only Italians make seafood dishes. Hungarians were illiterate barbarians who didn't know what city life was when they came to Pannonia. They took the word 'king' and the state system from the Croats, it wasn't the other way around. Btw, the word 'paprika' is a Croatian word.
I wish I wouldn't have to be born in eastern Europe at all but if I already had to be born in this cursed place I'd choose Hungary and only Hungary
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so it's hard to talk about something typically Croatian from the start.
exactly, this sentence (thanks for being honest at least) is enough for me to reaffirm my opinion. There is no clearly distinct Croat culture, just as there is no Polish, Slovak, Serbian or Romanian culture. Only Hungarians (and Russians obviously but they're not eastern European in this sense because they're a civilization on their own) are different.
See this is what annoys me. Too much emphasis on what language people speak.
Apparently a potatoheaded potato farmer from Nort Croatia named Nikola Horvat is more similar to a Montenegrin or a Serb than to a potatoheaded potato farmer across the Drau in Hungary named Miklos Horvat.
Hungary lost 70% of its territory after WW1 and was reduced to what is basically Budapest, a few non-small towns and their central countryside. They can't be diverse. The whole country is a big plain, a lake and a few hills.
They neither want to associate themselves with the neighbors who took what they think is their land so instead they put emphasis on their language and join mongolic and turkic tengri worshiping societies.
Never tried anything hungarian
What are common dishes?
It's less important how the Hungarian culture originated (I don't even deny that they borrowed a lot from Slavs) but what's important is that through the centuries it evolved into something very distinct and recognizable, unlike almost all other "cultures" in this region.
I don't see anything original and different in Hungary except the language. In everything else, they are close to Croats from Slavonia and Slovakia. I have been to Hungary 1000 times, it looks like a continuation of Slavonia. However, there are two things - their guys have a strange "Eastern European" style of dressing, and their women are much "easy"/ horny than Croatian girls. I guess that's why the porn industry flourishes in Hungary, but it doesn't exist in Croatia. It is difficult for me to explain why this is so because they are Catholics like us.
it looks like a continuation of Slavonia.
yes, now ask yourself why there is a Hungarian nation but not a Slavonian nation
also, Hungarian don't build huge 3-storey unfinished houses, this alone is enough to distinguish them from eastern European slop and that's just one thing (approach to the family, lack of multigenerational houses).
Are you retarded or are you just trying? Slavonia is a region.