I honestly believe that poland is one of the worst places to live in right now

i honestly believe that poland is one of the worst places to live in right now

be me

live in 35sqm apartment in a commieblock

2000 usd per month salary

dirty poland outside

cold and air pollution

politics is an absolute shitshow

have to drink beer to cope with being polish

I honestly would rather be a pajeet or some nigger in africa scamming americans and enjoying the sun every day
I'd have to work for the next ten years and save most of my money for a chance of an early retirement which is my only chance of happiness, firsties just get everything for free while thirdies have nothing to worry about and eat fresh mangoes from the trees

Try living in Siberia

fr*nce is much worse in all aspects

Same except I don't drink, pay rent and my salary is 1463$ after taxes

you earn ~40% less

apartments cost 300-500% less

you do not suffer in Siberia

I earn more tho

You have not a clue what -40 feels like. Most of these stats are bullshit btw.
FPBP.

salaries in warsaw

You dont suffer

Besides a decent apartment here in Irkutsk costs between 5 and 7 million rubles, so I will take a middle 6 million and with my salary of 220k₽ it will take me 27 months of work to earn this money without considering spending money on living and shit.

Most of these stats are bullshit btw.

how are they inaccurate

a decent apartment here in Irkutsk costs between 5 and 7 million rubles

Why so cheap?
Not a clue I just don't like them, and the groceries are extremely expensive there, easily x2 compared to Poland for essential units like eggs and milk.

it's not a country's problem but personally yours, you can always do better - change a job, start making more money, take a loan, buy a bigger apartment in a better neighborhood etc.

remember, always start changing the world from yourself

I'm retarded, I don't remember where I even got that number from, its actually 13 millions

you don't have to live in Warsaw

take a loan

what can you even do in yakutsk?

why the fuck would you ever want to live in the capital of any country

I'm from Irkutsk, don't know what do they do in Yakutsk. I mean, Sakha republic is known for its diamond mining, also salaries there are somewhat bigger for harsh climate and stuff.

Could you post the link to this website?

numbeo.com/cost-of-living/comparison.jsp

London is not a good city for these types of metric. Too many richfags there skewing stats, kinda like how it is in LA and NY.

you unironically have more purchasing power in Ukraine than in any western capital lmao

im not gonna take a loan, I invest all of my savings so I can retire early

That website is bullshit. Oh my god. I mean, where do they even get the food prices from? It says that pack off eggs in Irkutsk costs 172 rubles kek what? Local beer 95 roubles? This is some shit.

do you know a thing about how mortgages work? the interest rate is more important than the sqm price

Ukraine have 20% mortgages or something

Too many richfags there skewing stats

that's true for every capital city/business centre, that's why it doesn't make sense to live there if you're just a regular wagie, yet zoomerinos all want to live le big city life to post photos with skyscrapers on instagram and if they cannot afford a big apartment next to the president's residence they start crying all over the internet that the world is unfair and we need a communist revolution lmao

Cigarette prices are different between to cities on that website even though they're the same in every city because cigarette prices are regulated by government.

what are actual prices?

imo theyre fairly accurate, they just use averaged prices from many shops

so don't cry lol, that was your choice to live in shitty conditions for your whole young/working age period only to enjoy the life when you're already old (that's why FIRE is the most retarded older concept even, when you're past 40 you simply don't feel like doing most activities you imagined you'd be doing when retired)

In every store at my area pack of regular eggs costs about 90-95 roubles, bottle of local beer costs around 50, and a pack of Marlboro (350₽ on the website) costs 250 as I remember.

prices on this site can be added by everyone, that's the point of numbeo

it can have somewhat unreliable data for smaller towns or less popular ones but for big European cities it's surprisingly accurate, at least for Poland

do you know a thing about how mortgages work?

most people in Ukraine don't need a mortgage, they buy houses for cash

Oh okay

if youre okay living with your parents until you're 60 or something. otherwise you need a place to live all the time

nah, i know Ukraine's reality
they just work 2-3 years abroad and return home with enough cash to buy a house without any loans

one earns that much working shit tier jobs in poland, really?

most Ukrainians nowadays don't work in Poland but in the real west like Germany or Italy

never encountered one before the war
and you dont earn enough to save up tens of thousands here either as gastarbeiter

why is Germany's housing so cheap? i know why rent in Germany is cheap (heavily subsidized + developed cooperative system) but I didn't know it's also so cheap to buy

because Frankfurt is a ghetto

never encountered one before the war

but now they're plenty

and you dont earn enough to save up tens of thousands here either as gastarbeiter

you can easily save 20k eur/year if you live modestly + work overtime, so 3 years give you 60k which is enough to buy a decent apartment in whatever Ukrainian city

Frankfurt am Main or Frankfurt an der Oder?

what isn't then

you can easily save 20k eur/year if you live modestly

nigga if you work a shit tier job 18-24k euro net a year is *all* you earn

the math doesnt add up at all

don't ask silly questions please
again, you work overtime (normal thing for immigrants) and actually tradie jobs like in construction etc pay really good now

frankfurt agglomeration mostly consists of suburbs + its not very popular despite strong economy

main obviously, oder doesnt have high salaries

munich

what else can I spend money on? useless electronics? A car? I spend like half of my salary for necessities and that's all

lmao
even an ossihole is better than the capital of my country
it's over

eh, good for them if true. Ukraine is still horrible despite that possibility tho

what else can I spend money on?

...saving for a better apartment?

strong economy

(((financial services)))

I want to buy a house in the countryside and rent my current place out

Isn't East Germany actually underrated as fuck? I plan to live in either Pomerania or Saxony.

so what's your problem then? you chose this way of life yourself because you have a plan for the future yet you're complaining

Do something good for society and do a flip

no it's a shithole

if I were in a firstie country I could save way more and my general quality of life would be better, if I were a thirdie I would just fool around carelessly and be happy

Isn't East Germany actually underrated as fuck?

yes, it's common knowledge actually that east Germany offers the best salaries:cost of living ratio in all of Europe because AfD mayors just manage their cities well as they follow the rule 'economy first' rather than whatever woke stuff.

Why?

Wait, tell me more about that AfD thing. I thought they're grifters.

ossis can't suffer

just visit and you will know

taxes are not calculated right for this website average tax pre tax in warsaw is 13k

stop crying its still less than half the price of buying a commie block apartment in ramat gan (town adjcent to tel aviv)

AfD mayors

nigga hahaha what lol

there's like 1-2 afd majors in power in the whole country, they rule over some symbolically existing depopulated villages

eastern germany is run by establishment parties, like everything else. the big cities in particular are left-ruled even

i don't know who they are, i can only judge what they do
all i see is that ossi cities offer best living standards, most balanced housing prices comparing to the local salaries, the streets are clean and it's just safe there

when im stressed i take a google street view trip around one of east German towns because they're so aesthetically pleasant so it makes me feel relaxed

when im stressed i take a google street view trip around one of east German towns because they're so aesthetically pleasant so it makes me feel relaxed

why are you like this tranny?

SPD-IDF cope
you will never rule East Germany again

you know what the actual home ownership rate in Leipzig is?

11%. e-le-ven

11%. e-le-ven

AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

because rent is even cheaper so there is no pressure to buy
Germans just have so many options and so easy life so it's insane

im not an establishment party fan, just telling how it is

nothing in this country of note is afd-ruled yet. 0.

its not like Austria

it's just nice, try it yourself
you can start from Gorlitz because it's an easy comparison with Poland, it's like two different worlds and the further you go the better it gets

partially, but partially also because germs arent interested in buying apartments. its houses or nothing. and houses arent affordable.

this is the worst ossi town and ofc it has an SPD mayor lmao

i am from western Poland i been to east germany many times and it's a shithole

gorliz it's the best comparsion because german side of the city is DEAD
germans go to Polish side every day while no poles goes to german side that often

stop posting about germany you never been there

Austria

How actually good is it compared to Germany? Everybody shills it but when you look at the stats, it's exactly the same as Germany.

BTW 195k euro moneys for a 70m apartment in pic releted desert town. euros stop crying

because german side of the city is DEAD

bullshit, it's a popular tourist destination, probably the most beautiful old town in all of eastern Germany

stop crying, you still have it much better than us

probably the most beautiful old town in all of eastern Germany

????
why would anybody go to east germany when they can go to bavaria or bohemia

actually it's pretty ugly dresden is nicer

it's exactly the same as Germany.

thats what it is, minus the nature, which is 5x greater than ours. and Vienna is grand as well.

why would anybody go to east germany when they can go to bavaria or bohemia

bohemia is not germany and bavarian cities aren't actually that beautiful because most of them were destroyed in WW2

afaik Gorlitz is one of the biggest German towns that were left intact in WW2

afaik Gorlitz is one of the biggest German towns that were left in-ACK

to be destroyed by the ossis

where was anything destroyed there, it's still beautiful

are you seriously using fucking numbeo as a comparison?
you're so low IQ

it's not
it's a shithole

maybe i could believe you before GSV was introduced to Germany but now you can check it yourself
it's beautiful

it's still beautiful

Only in the city center outside it's a decrepit shithole full of abandonment

7.3k being the average is quite low for a capital city if its true. I will drink one more polish energy drink to strengthen your buying power

You people are too concerned about numbers IMO
Quality of life is not only salaries, prices and shit

is that supposed to be impressive?
those ornamentation on buildings is russia tier and is that a church? looks like shit

where?
i checked all of the city, including outskirts and it looks like an usual German disneyland everywhere
all buildings in perfect condition, streets all clean and well maintained, i really wanted to find something shitty but it's hard
ok, now you're already "herbing", that stopped being interesting

quality of life is when you go outside and can smell the burning plastic and be proud you live in PCCNIA

not solely, but mostly

?

GSV autist here again

why haven't you do a flip yet? Do you realize you're a living joke?

What else? I always whine about the climate here in Siberia but I don't really mind it that much, I could tolerate it for a big wage.

this is the worst looking building i managed to find in all of Gorlitz and it took me a really long time to spot it
yet it still would be above average by eastern European standards

If you live in a clean, well-maintained city or even in the countryside, economic concerns fall by the wayside.

Take my dick.

Then just get a big wage? What's the problem?

you still need to pay for that life and your immediate surroundings are decided by how well you earn

of course its not everything there is, but you can't be happy if you can't make ends meet

those houses are literally peasant tier

the city is full of abounded buildings architecture looks like saint peterburg and not like smoething european

You can't even use GSV or you're a truly an annoying troll. Either way begone, you bring nothing good.

True, Poland is soulless and grim. The only soulful countries are USA, Israel, Brazil and maybe Japan

those houses are literally peasant tier

lmao, then most of Poland looks even worse
this is in an equally bad condition but the architecture itself is nicer

Wages are x10 bigger in Germany so I go there. I won't go to Spain which offers only x5 higher wages but has a better climate though.

If I wanted to move I would rather go to Finland

this is in an equally bad condition but the architecture itself is nicer

the architecture literally looks russian

lmao, then most of Poland looks even worse

i think you're delusional

ale się zapieklił
będzie wstyd przed Niemcem

>politics is an absolute shitshow

If you think our politics are a shitshow you haven't seen nothing yet

the architecture literally looks russian

...because most "European" Russian architecture was designed by German architects?

Why? Finland is actually an option for me, but it's just worse than East Germany in every measure.

this is in an equally bad condition but the architecture itself is nicer

Nobody is a mental junkie to live in ruins just because you like the architecture of said ruins

Better nature, less churkas and niggers

Russian architecture was designed by German architects?

proof?

i am sure national architecture style of russia was adopted from gorlitz tranny

why poles can't just copy germans instead of constantly trying to reinvent the wheel and obviously failing at it?

Please kill yourself already

you don't copy dogshit

Why can't you just do a flip and stop posting nonsense threads?

You're getting brually destroyed in your every thread and you're exposing every day that you failed in your life. It's time to end it, you know?

no zesrał się po prostu

better nature

Not true. Finnish nature is mostly swamps and forests, and East Germany has them both too, but it also has mountains and so on and also the climate is better.

less churkas and niggers

Not true either. East Germany has around 4% of them while Finland has slightly more, and East Germany biggest cities have the same percent while Finnish bigger cities are quite contaminated with them.

Visit Poland

Visibly and immediately noticeably way less third worlders

Clean streets, no litter anywhere

Working public transport

Amazing food

The hottest girls I've seen in my life

Cheap, nice beer

Next day

Go to Kolobrzeg

Beaches are well maintained and clean

Again, no thirdies in sight

Full of people having fun and enjoying the sunshine

have a friendly beer with a fat polish lad and his son

Play beach football with them, have a few more beers

Go back to the ridiculously cheap hotel

Next day

Go to Swornegacie

Beautiful shit-free lake

Fisherlad offers to take me out onto the lake

Don't get raped

Have a few beers and catch a fish

Sounds like a nightmare mate.

It's like asking a downie why he can't just copy what the gifted kid is doing

bro all you need to do is to lose a war get partitioned and you will be like germany

ok Paweł, so maybe just return to your Polish homeland for ever??

oh no, that would be too much!

why don't you go back to ukraine then?

Don't know, Finland just feels more appealing

If only it were that eady. Poolacks will never be as wealthy as Germans, they're just genetically superior

Mate I'm English. Your country isn't nearly as bad as you make it out to be. It really feels like I'm Europe when I walk around a polish City. When I go to London or Paris I could easily mistake it for Mogadishu or Jalalibad.

why is it always some eastern niggers from swamps of belarus always in love with germany and never western poles?

Mate I'm English.

Stop coping Krzysztof, you said Swornegacie which is a meme name only Poles know about

and never western poles?

because they're afraid that one day they might lose their houses, so it's in their interest to spread hate and fake news about Germany
understandable from their point of view

Pooland is a fucking shithole

are you retarded?

It's a meme name

uh... It's a 2 hour drive from the beach I visited mate.

i will soon ride on a tr**n to Berlin

Western Poles are just polonised belarusians/ukrainians forcefully deported to German lands by Stalin. I'm more Polish than anybody in this thread since I can actually trace my ancestry back to Warsaw's population censuses from the 17th century

usd per month salary
that's like what I earn here

He's right, you're on borrowed time Paweł Iwanowski

most of western Poland is wilekopolska you stupid tranny

live in 35sqm apartment in a commieblock

You have your own apartment. What are you complaining about?

2000 usd per month salary

That's pretty good.

cold and air pollution

Add no sun and 9 months winter to get on our level.

have to drink beer to cope with being polish

You're just weak.

Wielkopolska is ex-German land too, sorry to break it to you Taras

i am from poznan and you are a swamp nigger who never been outside

Posen*

your grandma is a ex german whore

Poles spend their weekends arguing about Germany online

Pathetic

get that jew looking whore off my screen

2000 usd per month salary

before taxes you mean

Bolesław Chrobry built all these houses I swear!

im obsessed about Germany, sorry
i only exist to think about Germany

tfw a wooden shack is impressive to east niggers

lol

same but my salary is 1000 usd per month

he is, he's a literal loser with no life living with mom and a virgin, stop giving him attention.

She should be bullied here until he acks (hopefully some day)

hello fellow slavic people

those houses are shit they are build in a cheap way that the whole 1 story is sagging after 50 years but i guess easties have never been inside one of those

stop giving him your attention. He's a subhuman virgin loser, living with mom and was bullied at school (real info though) he's a common poster here because he has no life

the houses are great, just westies cannot maintain them properly

if they were great they would be maintained

westies are the ones who build them you faggot

everyone who disagrees with me is a hohol / russian troll / kike / pajeet

Woah, you are just like one of those braindead russian Z patriots kekw

You can tell it was a German architect who designed those not some subhuman Poolacke, too bad pooplacks couldn't maintain them properly

Pooplacks are like that whenever somebody criticises Poland, this nigger is some retard that came here from wykop (polish reddit) or a discuck user

i worship germany and everything german

difference is i am correct russians are not

now vpn off rusnigger>German architect
LOL germans only stole from the french and never invented anything in architecture

It's crazy how disconnected Europeans are from reality. Even the poorest of them live a hundred times richer than most of us, but they all complain non-stop about how hard their lives are in their clean and safe cities, how hard it is for them to live on their huge salaries in their warm lands.

Nah you are just one of those braindead retarded eastern european retards who thinks his shithole is superior
Being self-aware is one of features retards completely lack
Look at yourself nigger, you claim you are right just because you are right ahahha

keep seething normalnigger. You HAVE to go back to the sewer that is wykop

Even the poorest of them live a hundred times richer than most of us

Well let's compare Europe to fucking Zimbabwe or Ukraine now and say that Europeans are all delusional shall we?

Europeans just live too good and are bored.

That must be normal all over Europe. It's the same here despite us being one of the most scarsely populated countries in EU.
One infamous commieblock in Malmö currently has no water or power due to their shitty landlord and possibly neighbors.

kill yourself already, why the fuck do you even exist you parasite?

Those young Germans giving 45% of their salaries to brownies with 0 chances to own any property without inheriting it or getting 20Y mortgage are having fun for sure

you are from wykop paki nigger
please go back to wykop and post more about your sister only having sex with exotic guys like you do everyday

Why is he a parasite you dumb fuck? Just because he is self-aware enough to point out the obvious problems?

do you even look at the mirror and not feel disgusted?

nigga you must be 60iq

Because you say so you inbred fuck?

yes cuz i say so
you have a problem with that?

marcel do budy

It's should not be hard to live good and honest in a developed community.
Ending up here and still misbehaving must constitute a legitimate way to judge the character of a person.

You are like a retarded junkie hobo roaming the streets, having a problem with you is like having a problem with a random beggar.

HUUURRRR HOW DARE YOU CALL MY SHITHOLE A SHITHOLE

LMAO

You don't belong here normalniggers

poland is literally richer than japan

because
he's a loser that was bullied in school, lives in some middle of nowhere town and achieved nothing in his pathetic life, has no friends and family is secretly ashamed of him, so he decided to troon out

So his only form of contact with other people is posting delusions on 4chins and hoping to catch an attention, he loses every argument so he went to trolling

This is a sad, useless creature

Because some meme PPE says so? Good for you Grzegorzsh.

You say that in every thread to anybody that disagrees with you. I'm sorry this isn't your private discuck server for TRVE PATRIQTS OF POLAND and you can't just block people that disagree with you, maybe it's time to reconsider sewer sliding back to your wykop tag, tranny?

you are from wykop
and you are a tranny
stop projecting
you literally have a humiliation fetish

I HATE VIRGINS, LOSERS, PEOPLE WITHOUT FRIENDS, ANIME AND ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T SPEND HIS WEEKEND GOING OUT CLUBBING

I WONDER WHICH WEBSITE IS IDEAL FOR ME, PLEBBIT, XITTER, INSTATROON? NAH, Anon Babble IS THE PERFECT PLACE TO ME

wykop is down the hall and to the right

not wealthier but I think its similar at this point. nip salaries outside Tokyo are pathetic by now

reddit is literally for german lovers

you should go to reddit r/europe tranny

i think

i think you are a faggot

True, the entire world is going to shit. But consider the following, in Poland you have to live with Poles, that's like -90% of your salary in terms of emotional damage.

i am sure to gooks like you it would be thought

reddit is literally for german lovers

you should go to reddit r/europe tranny

Obviously a wykoptroon would know what subplebbits there are and what they're like, nice self-report faggot. You don't belong lil bro, you should look for validation in your little discuck servers

Salaries are similar, but nip cost of living is like half of that in Pooland

drink beer

Beer contains gluten which destroys the gut of gluten intolerant people over several years.
A destroyed and smooth gut doesn't support a microbiome to produce serotonin and dopamin for a happy and motivated mind.
This is a fairly new discovery and is called "the gut-brain axis".

Gut bacteria and mind control (timestamp @ 39:54)

youtube.com/watch?t=2394&v=mioR_WrkRaU

Better than to live with the animals flooding Western countries tbqh

Living with nips as a nip isn’t that fun either outside of anime

our little discuck servers

nice self report tranny
you need to go back for emotional support you are losing it

Better than to live with the animals flooding Western countries tbqh

Guess what, how many years before Poland becomes infested like any other Western country?

Poland becomes infested like any other Western country?

20 years after japan becomes BLACK

stop projecting, you're the guy that needs a safe space full of normalniggers, because virgins and other types of losers give you the ick

BLACK

All 3 of them?

The difference isn’t that great. Japan is still above Poland, but it’s not what it used to be. Poland has also far more genuine home owners

Yeah it is. Dresden, Leipzig are cheap because the people who would bring up the rent generally live in other cities. But that does not mean no one lives there, there are universities, sport clubs, Leipzig is a bit like a mini Berlin culturally, it is a fun city, in general East Germany is very underrated. Dresden is probably the best kept city in the entire "Eastern" region maybe outside Prague

+ Renters in Germany have a lot of rights because many people rent so they need proper regulation otherwise there could be major problems. Rent in my country is like a wild west Free-For-All Battle Royal where landlords can do anything. Almost all my friends had to move out in like two weeks within notice because the landlords decides he needs the place now

i only don't like tranny cucks like you

also it's okay that you are a virgin living with his mother in the middle of nowhere

yeah but nobody sane would ever want to live in łódź

They’ll take a long time to catch up. The West has been importing animals since the 1960s, Poland started around 2015 or so

have you been in central dresden square where they are just random commieblocks standing?

ofc the discordnigger wykoptroon is the first to start spamming about countries getting blacked lmao. This isn't your NSFW discuck chat

Whatever took 10 years in the past nowadays take 1-2 years, things have accelerated dude

Im glad eastern Germany has so many fanboys in Eastern Europe. Here, no one likes it

im not a tranny i swear, ignore the fact that i make posts about japan getting blacked!!

keep seething and projecting, you're so new you cant even tell im not the OP

nobody likes ossiland here either it's just those 2 trannies

True. But this Brit isn’t lying , visiting Poland nowadays still feels like 90s Europe in terms of population

How bad is the Pajeetification of Nipland?

2000 usd per month salary

are you humblebragging? most poles earn less and you know it

Dresden probably has smaller percentage of commie block housing than any large Eastern Europe city. Here in Budapest it is around 20-25% and the apartment complexes are still much larger and easily visible even from a distant satellite picture

+ Dresden (for whatever reasons) have a lot of old mansions and by lot I mean lot outside the historic center

usd per month salary
you don't have to flex that hard on the rest of us rich nigga

How bad is the Pajeetification of Nipland?

There are official charts, not many. There are some Jeets but Japanese visa system is amazing and most of low skilled 3rd word brownies with the visa type 特定技能 have to get the fuck out after 5 years without a chance to prolong their visa. There are some problems, but Pajeets aren't one of those. No gibs, no high paying jobs for saars and other brownies, fucked up language, most of foreigners barely stay.

average salary is 2200 euro but you are a poor faggot

dresden has less people that it has pre ww2
and the commie blocks are masked "renovated" to have red roof but they still look like shit and dresden is the only city i ever been to , to have random commie blocks in the center platz's

But recently I saw a Nepalese Jeet chasing after some Japanese woman at night and the woman was screaming for help. I called the police and they detained the Jeet, the woman apparently knew him but such cases sometimes happen tho. I hope the subhuman got deported.

Amazing food

lies
what did you eat

Swornegacie

lmao

what's your last name?

shut up negroid

You can compare it to Russia, Belorussia, Ukraine, Turkey and other shit like this where people basically starve and vageslave for literal bread crumbs.

Cool

Yeah, on paper it sounds amazing what Nipland is doing but everyone who visited it recently says it’s not the same as it was. Even slight dilution kills the national character

You're talking to Russian draft dodger you dumbass

Here is Warsaw in comparison. You can see it is very different from miles away. Very little suburbs, extremely tiny historic core and a lot of commie blocks or commie block adjacent post-war housing
East Germany is nicer than anywhere in Eastern Europe with the only exception of parts of Czech Republic

average salary is 2200 euro

average man doesn't earn the average wage, average man earns the much lower median

you are a poor faggot

yes I am, which is why your whining annoys me you spoiled manchild

Nothing is the same as it was and everything is turning to shit dude, it's a well known fact.

You can compare it to Russia, Belorussia, Ukraine, Turkey

Here is the problem, that bar is too low even for Poland

why have you never been to east germany

most of that is actually squares

Out of interest, why do so many adult nips live the incel life with their parents, when unemployment are low and you can rent a goypod for very cheap even in Tokyo?

Warsaw

extremely tiny historic core

Warsaw has extremely tiny historic core compared to most Polish cities for obvious reasons

man earn more than woman

are you a braindead faggot?

yes I am, which is why your whining annoys me you spoiled manchild

noooooooooooo you must be a peasant like me you cannot be from a successful family that have been wealthy for generations noooooooooo

Here is Budapest which is pretty village-like suburban depending on the area and there is a pretty large, or at least very dense historic core but you can still immediately spot the commie block housing projects and the city is in a much worse condition than Dresden

I don't know why are you trying so hard, we have the numbers, we have the satellite pictures, what do you want? If you have a hard time accepting that the largest economy in Europe has a richer poor side than East Europe then I don't know what to tell you. You are like Russians trying to prove how Western cities are actually poor, etc..

I have a hypothesis, people are not motivated by braindead retarded system where you have to sit in the office for 10 hours and have to pretend to work because the manager hasn't left the office yet and you can't do as well that because that would be bad manners. You also have to pretend to work so that the management notices you and most of the management doesn't care about the ACTUAL results because they are like 70 years old.
The societal pressure is high, for some people there is an "easier" path.
I honestly don't think hikikomori problem is specific to Japan, the same thing is happening across the globe, it's just Japan getting more attention than other countries for some reason.

dresden is one of the few major cities in central europe with population lower than it had 80 years ago

you never been there sounds like you a coping

here's your non commieblock with red roof saar

So work life in nipland is exactly as the stereotypes say huh. But at least you don’t have performance pressure, you just waste your life doing pointless things

Nipland is the only country where a massive share of hikkies isn’t explained by unemployment or real estate crisis like in southern Europe.

But at least you don’t have performance pressure, you just waste your life doing pointless things

More or less indeed. Or you can work in a western company and have western quality of life like in a 1st world country without being surrounded by brownies.

So you are trying to do semantics now? Oh look it is post-war housing, guess all post war housing is created equal and that building is exactly the same as the crammed apartment complexes.
Eastern European commie blocks have much smaller apartments than what you can see on that picture

Can you watch hentai during office hours, or does one actively have to pretend to work?

You have not a clue what -40 feels like. Most of these stats are bullshit btw.

we had -30 last year and it was fine

what i posted is literally a renovated commie block
lol why are you so embarrassing?

That guy is just a princess, -40 is not that bad as some say either. When people complain about colds I just wonder if they don't know what clothes are and go around naked.

to be fair i go outside without a jacket if it's less than -5C because i'm really warm blooded i'm sweating bullets above 10C

Russia has an extremely developed heating system so no one cares as soon as you’re in your apartment

Do you know where people actually freeze most during winter? Spain and Portugal. Because their insulation and heating system is THAT shit

Eastern European commie blocks had much smaller average square meter than similar housing projects in the other side of Europe
Even within the exact same commie block structure there were apartments that were given to party people that had much higher average square meter with 50 sqm being the minimum IIRC
That example you posted probably does not have any 25-35 sqm apartments either unlike We have the average square meters from the countries you know

I doubt it ever gets cold enough for humans to freeze in Spain and Portugal
Same

nigger stop trolling

why do you deepthroat GDR so much when everybody in europe understands it was a shithole?

internet rentoidism is a retarded meme just like incelism
no seething rentoids and no incels exist in real life, literally go and touch grass
unless your parents were alcoholics you should have your own place

owning property is for retards who don't understand value of money

no incels exist in real life

Um, hello

why do you deepthroat GDR so much when everybody in europe understands it was a shithole?

Only to Western standards it is bad though, it is still much better than Poland that is my point lol
What is your argument even? The largest economy in the EU with 2.5 times the GDP per capita, higher salaries, less commie blocks, much higher average square meter is actually bad? Your argument is basically

this much more developed country with better metrics in everything is actually worse

Makes no sense

Look at how many fucking apartments are there in this building
The average square meter is probably not too high. And this is not even a regular commieblock anyway, you could post brutalist style buildings from other parts of Europe too, we are discussing commie blocks here

why are you even arguing with him? he knows all of that, he probably even worked in Germany, that's where his inferiority complex stems from

Yeah but its so funny like

NENENENENENE I DONT CARE CANT HEAR YOU POLSKA STRONG KURWA

Like you can argue that a lesser developed country is akshually good then the better developed countries can do the same you know

GDR is objectively bad by ALL standards you are some gypsy who never been there trying to act like it's some haven on earth
Most Poles live in detached houses like in france so your argument holds no water
GDR is a poor depopulated shithole with median age of over 50 that is full of peasants who hold no wealth
you are the one coping

Here we call them 'hemmasittare'. Specifically kids not going to school. As adults they become the usual psych cases.

Just stop burning trash, air pollution solved.

he's doing that on purpose, he always says contrarian stuff to everyone he argues with, even if it doesnt make sense

desuarchive.org/_/search/username/herbing this thread/

most people don't have to buy their first place, they inherit it or get it from their parents
you are not in real life, you are on Anon Babble, I used to be an incel in high school but then I stopped and found a gf quickly, I cringe when I recall how dumb I was back then

east germans are one of the biggest communism suckers because their country sucks cock

i think the hungarian is just a gypsy that's why he's seething so much

GDR is objectively bad by ALL standards

No, it is not. The GDR has better metrics than Poland in every single aspect. I honestly cannot think one thing that would be better in Poland. I don't have anything against Poland, it is just what it is

Most Poles live in detached houses

Maybe and the average square meter in Poland is still significantly below the EU average, so what?

"The quality and quantity of housing in Poland are among the lowest in the EU. The average flat size in Poland is 75.5 sqm and is 21 sqm smaller than the EU average. In addition, some cities such as Gdańsk, Wrocław and Poznań have in recent years seen the average flat size decrease rather than increase. The average number of rooms per person in Poland is 1.1, or 0.5 less than in the EU, and the overcrowding rate stands at 35.8% and is 19 percentage points above the EU average. This puts Poland among the lower end of European countries for the quality of housing, which - coupled with sky-high prices of flats - constitutes a major barrier to achieving an acceptable standard of living", says Ewa Derlatka-Chilewicz, Head of Research, Cushman & Wakefield.

Switzerland is apartment heavy too, do you think the average living quality is dwelling is worse than in Poland?

GDR is

No, what is just what you made up to make yourself feel better. There are universities there with a ton of young people, tourism, tons of sport clubs from football to competitive diving, good clubs and nightlife, underground scenes from techno to metal etc. I mean Berlin has probably the best medical school on the entire continent. You made up these stereotypes in your head to make yourself feel better lol

I'm not the one being angry here throwing around insults

Even with all the apartments and commie blocks in the Eastern side the average square meter in Germany is 92 sqm btw
So much for all the detached housing

you never been to gdr just accept being wrong

study says

eurostat or Poland does not collect data on square meter per person or rooms per person
average new sold homes are significantly above average m2 per person

The GDR has better metri-ACK

poland is not a depopulated shithole with average age in 50s

You are the one that is spewing memes in a spastics manner. Yeah there are no young people there at all that is why I went to clubbing several times there lol. That is why bars are full in cities like Dresden and Leipzig with an active nightlife

average new sold homes are significantly above average m2 per person

Average new sold homes are larger everywhere than the average lol. You are seriously dumb

just accept you are wrong and that i and wessis are correct about GDR being a shithole

average square meter in Germany is 92 sqm btw

nice pivot into "germany" and not gdr shithole lol

Average new sold homes are larger everywhere than the average lol. You are seriously dumb

than europe average m2 per person
damn you are dumb
GDR is the oldest place in europe

I never implied it is the absolute best or richest area on the continent, I said it is still better than Poland which is not a large thing to achieve, you could say the same about every single country West of Poland

portugal or spain are poorer than Poland

They are billion times more pleasant than Eastern Europe lol

They are billion times more pleasant than Eastern Europe lol

than tell spaniards not to come to warsaw for work

LMAO

is that surprising for a gypsy like you that people from countries with 20% unemployment come to a country with 2% unemployment are higher salaries?

why is the Hungarian seething for this whole thread?

You have the largest diaspora on the entire continent then two people show up for a few years and start to get uppity lol

There are 10 TIMES as many Poles living in Spain than the other way around lmao
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poles_in_Spain

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Poland#Immigration_and_foreign_nationals

A few random Spaniards brought the wrong Spain ticket and now you are POLSKA STRONG kurwa

There are 10 TIMES as many Poles living in Spain than the other way around lmao

it's called retirment

Property in spain is cheaper so boomers from all over europe just go there

is that shocking to you

also the Polish data only included foreign people who live in Poland not people who stay for 2 years leave for couple months and come back for another 2 and on.. from europe ofc

Yeah Yeah we know mighty Polska might be poor on paper but actually its the richest country
I g2g

i think the hungarian is just a gypsy

bro i understand you lost the argument

What is your argument? Spain, which has higher salaries than Poland and according to you, cheaper prices so all the Polish people go there because Poland is a rich country with lower salaries and smaller GDP per capita so the Poles go to the cheap Spain which has better infrastructure, nicer nature, better historic sites AND apparently its also cheaper but Spain is still a worse country somehow because Polska stronk
lmao

Its also obvious that you are chronically unemployed because you keep spamming your country all day every day so why do you even care about salaries? its not like you have a job anyway

nice meltdown lol

Warm and sunny summers and nice nature whats the problem?

Because you're a normie