Is universal healthcare a meme? all i see from canadian...

is universal healthcare a meme? all i see from canadian, german and british twittoid users is how an american style system would solve their problems

how an american style system would solve their problems

How so? Don't they have private options to go to if the queue in the public option is too long?

Don't they have private options to go to if the queue in the public option is too long?

We do

They're stupid, neoliberal wreckers ruined public healthcare to manufacture consent for privatization.

It's a meme in a sense that the drawback to it would be that you have to pay more taxes to compensate for the fact that it would be subisidised by the Government imo.

But compared to the US system where it's heavily privatised ( and in turn, piss-expensive ) and needing an insurer to help you pay for expensive operations ( and running the risk of being denied because your insurer are niggerfaggots who only exists to leech off you and running off with the money ), Universal Healthcare is an upgrade.

I've quite literally never seen anyone say American style health care would be a viable solution. People here complain about our current health care system, but most people look towards Nordic or western euro countries not the USA

is universal healthcare a meme?

It is, and Singapore proves it. A semi-private system has the best of both worlds.

Quality and affordable healthcare does exist in developed East Asia. But to achieve it, they need to stop being neo maoist retards.

Not a single coal miner in existence has ever wanted "health protections" limiting their right to work lmfao. This reads like crazy city lib fanfic. Roughnecks cry constantly about regulators hanging over their heads and prohibiting their work. If you are in coal mining you already give 0 shits about your health.

So what problem does our kind saudi sir have with people being offered a public option?

Our healthcare problems go way beyond public vs private (in fact, nearly half of our healthcare spending is public).

Attempting to convert to a single payer system (medicare for all) would end up being a massive tax sink. Most of our problems are not with pharma or insurance companies, but with hospitals costing too much to operate, including those that are non-profit. The main problems with our healthcare system is bloated admin costs in hospitals, high doctor/nurse salaries and malpractice lawsuits causing a bunch of unnecessary procedures that are only done to prevent a lawsuit.

Its always funny how socialists in USA complain about housing and healthcare here as examples of capitalism when neither of those are free markets.

.. defined neoliberal correctly without looking it up

This isn't 1984. You don't get to redefine words for political purposes

Because unless you mean people who want limit immigration, keep government out of the market and use public work projects like roads at times to spur the economy

You need to shut the fuck up
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works just fine here, would never change it.

Some do, some don't

Why not just force doctors/nurses to work for less but with the payback being that their student loans would be forgiven and written off?

No they don't. They love agencies like OSHA. I worked petro chemical. Miners are the same way.

lol are you shitting me? There were literal armed uprisings over poor working conditions in the 1920s

Nobody here would be able to afford American style healthcare.

I unironically know several Canadians who moved down here because they thought our healthcare system was better.

how an american style system would solve their problems

Utter bullshit. Nobody wants the American system, they don't even want it themselves.

but with hospitals costing too much to operate, including those that are non-profit

Under an NHS-style system, the state controls the hospital, and therefore the wages. When the NHS was first implemented in Britain, medical unions HATED it because they all took a massive paycut. Nowadays, they consider it one of the greatest British achievements.

nobody here can afford it here either lol

Don't tell you are looking up the correct definition of neoliberal after using it.
Seriously generation spoonfed. All 20-35s. Generation fucking spoonfed.

Attempting to convert to a single payer system (medicare for all) would end up being a massive tax sink.

Your federal government already spends more than any country subsidizing private healthcare. It would be cheaper if the government ran hospitals directly instead of throwing money to middlemen. You would also have the benefit of private hospitals having to compete with public hospitals that charge 0$ from patients, so they would have to drive prices down

Doctors and nurses can afford to pay their student loans back.

The problem is we have an undersupply. We need to:
1. Expand medical schools and residences
2. Make it easier for foreign doctors/nurses to work in USA.
Both of those will be met with resistance by current doctors/nurses. I spoke with a cancer doctor the other week and he told a story about how he prevented medical outsourcing for reading photos or something to protect their own labor.

linguistic prescriptivism

Use the right words, generation spoonfed
Jesus fucking Christ

It would be cheaper if the government ran hospitals directly instead of throwing money to middlemen

Nearly half of hospitals are non-profit, and the profit margins for the for-profit ones are low. Hospital profits simply do not explain excess medical costs in USA.

And there's no reason to believe the public hospitals would run more efficiently. Given how terrible we are at the state doing anything in this country, I wouldn't be surprised if the public ones end up being more expensive.

Don't care, I'm not paying for other peoples' healthcare.

doctors here would absolutely rape your wallet if it was all private

Does Americans tend to "look down" on the nursing/healthcare industry? In Singapore, Nursing isn't really seen as a lucrative career despite the benefits you get due to the fact that you have to work long hours with some days being so understaffed that whoever you were with must take care of more beds/patients than what is recommended. It's generally seen as a "dirty job" as well by the Chinese here for some fucking reason because of some stupid superstitious bullshit.

Interesting.

The government nationalizing and establishing a state monopoly on hospitals in order to price fix medical salaries certainly is not going to happen here. It also doesn't really fix the supply problem.

Part of the issue with health care is people don't know how to take care of their own fucking health. They can't even eat correctly or maintain healthy weight. Can't do moderate exercise. Fill themselves with poisons in the form of cigarettes/alcohol etc.

That all puts pressure on the system.

Does Americans tend to "look down" on the nursing/healthcare industry?

No not at all. Nursing is a hard major to study in at school (where I went you have to specially apply for the nursing program and a lot of people don't get in) and the stereotype is that its what the hot mean girls do.

Does Americans tend to "look down" on the nursing/healthcare industry

Nursing isn't that difficult to get into. It's not seen poorly and it is decently respected.
Doctors are highly respected though. That is seen as one of the "good jobs"

just tax the cigs and alcohol to make up for the healthcare

Deporting 50 million people would do wonders for a lot of things.

If you cut the middlemen of course you are going to spend less. Your country spends the most on health care for a reason. Not only the burden on the taxpayer is actually HIGHER with your current system but the prices will also be higher for people uncovered by federal insurance, due to the inflationary consequence of the government throwing money at an industry. It's the worst option, only shilled by business interests that want the sweet federal gibs

latinos arent going anywhere bro. make your peace with and befriend them

Cigarettes are $16 a pack near me, we need to deport tens of millions of leeches.

Theres a lot more than Latinos and not all of them are being deported.
And trust me, they hate illegals

You already are. You are paying more than europeans for a cucked subsided private option

Don't care, I'm not paying for other peoples' healthcare.

Someone explain the concept of insurance to this nibba.

I am asking the US Government to allow employees to trade their life to their employer if the employer is willing to pay all associated medical fees up to the age of 65.

Insurance should be illegal. It's the oldest con. Protection money.

It's just not right if the (((shareholders))) don't get their cut

Prior to Obamacare even my minimum wage retail job had fantastic and cheap health care, that covered literally everything.
We just need to cut people off who don’t contribute and they will leave.

By cutting the middlemen, do you mean nationalizing hospitals?

That's not going to happen, and if it did there's still no guarantee of positive results. Would the government be able to run a hospital more efficiently than the private non-profit entity it took control of it over from? Maybe, but maybe not. The best reform would be attacking at why hospitals, even those that are non-profit, cost so much to operate.

Yeah you are just making things up.obamacare insured about 40 million who weren't.
Typical maga. don't argue with me. You'll just make shit up

obamacare insured about 40 million who weren't.

kek you just repeat whatever nonsense you hear on the news