Why do Americans hate science?
Why do Americans hate science?
elon fired all the nuclear scientists and now he's going to fire the doctors
"OH MY FAUCI JUST TRVST THE HECKIN' SOYIENCES GOYIM!"
Science says black people have lower IQ
Science says race mixing is bad
Science says george floyd OD'd on fentanyl
"Shut it down!!!"
zamn
they funded my lab back in the day. Also gave me $50k in sbir funds
freezing funds first and then screening would only make sense if he already knew most research would get defunded
anyway please stop funding that guy who breeds salmonella for the past 40 years
When we're bled dry and ruled by a new class of oligarchs I genuinely hope you will still be happy having owned the libs.
before Trump
US run by neoliberal oligarchs only concerned with making line go up even if it comes at the cost of domestic industry and economic stability
after Trump
US run by protectionist oligarchs only concerned with ensuring that the US doesn't implode into a debt ridden turd world country exploited for resources by China
How horrible.
china
trusts the science
easily overtakes Americans
I feel bad but also humoured for Americans, literally threw every great achievement they had out the window
Yes I'm sure the previous elite are much much worse than the guy who did a crypto pump and dump right before taking office.
The previous elite were the ones who hollowed out the country of all useful industries, so yes. They were worse, it was a pump and dump scheme on a national level.
this is more of a scorched earth message. In fact, their "manual" is titled "Dawn's Early Light: Taking Back Washington to Save America", released the day after the election last November. But the original title was "Dawn's Early Light: Burning Down Washington to Save America".
They are destroying the federal government, installing a dictator, then making America an evangelical "Prosperity Gospel" nation again.
And why do you think that was an intentional and malicious move rather than a response to the economic world conditions they found themselves in? Hell the decoupling of wages and productivity didn't really kick off until neo-conservatives rose to power with Thatcher and Reagan. The decoupling of the interests of the elite corporate class and those of the common worker. Yet people keep electing the same party that pushes the same bullshit as if it's going to help the average person.
"HE'S JUST BAD... OKAY?! ANYWAYS TIME TO GO PLAY THE LEGEND OF ZELDA ON MY NINTENDO SWITCH WHILE MY TRANS WIFE GETS PWNED BY TYREKE."
No need to be mad. it was a genuine wish.
Actually this affects globally, since research projects with american universities and research institutes have been cancelled abruptly. While this is bad for universities and grad students all around the world it’s actually going to hurt private American companies apply to be part of research projects through the NSF the most, since they don't have funding for R&D on their own.
Also, btw, not directly related to NSF funding but still part of the current administration’s decisions, the US government is actively purging servers that were used to host collected data, making data from previous and current projects unavailable.
commie talk
Unions sold out the 'common worker' just as much as the corporate executive, because they imagined a new 'service economy' and 'knowledge economy' that would replace the old badwrong industrial economy that polluted the pristine enviroment.
Take your directionbrain ideological garbage and shove it up your ass. The fact is both the establishment Democrats and establishment Republicans - as well as establishment Labour and Tories, and their various European equivalents - represent a neoliberal consensus that exists purely to deindustrialize the west and "manage the decline" while keeping the illusion of GDP growth through skyhigh government spending on gibsmedats and benefits to mass immigration. If you aren't in support of developing and then protecting domestic industry, you aren't on the side of the workers and right now Trump is the only game in town regardless of his idiocy and pump and dump schemes.
"OH MY FAUCI, SOYENCE SAYS WE'LL HAVE WALKABLE CITIES WHEN THE SUN EXPLODES ACCORDING TO MY ANALYTICAL ANALYTICS; ANYWAYS, TIME TO GO GET RID OF THE NAZI WH*TOID RACE BY LETTING MY TRANS WIFE GET PLOWED IN HER NEOVAGINA BY TYZESHAUN!"
Commie talk
Holy shit I bring up the conditions of the working class and that's commie talk? I didn't even fucking mention unions, I'm well aware of how ineffectual they became. It's why it was so popular to clamp down on them. And you blame the neoliberals AGAIN for something that only kicked off with the deregulation and rampant inflation started during the era of Reaganomics.
The hard truth is that people have been convinced (for some god forsaken reason) that the interests of the ultra-wealthy are the interests of people like you and me. When in reality it couldn't be further from the truth. The high GDP growth, the extremely crazy stock market growth, the bubbling of assets such as housing, all of it traced back to neo-con deregulatory policies. Policies that were so popular at the time because it allowed people to ride a wave of prosperity that they knew the the future would have to pay for.
And if you want to scream about de-industrialization look no further than the George Bush era, and HIS policies of continued Reaganomics.
Reaganomics and deregulation is exactly neoliberalism
are you ok
It's became the same fucking thing at this point since it's all so fluid in definition. Wasn't always that way, but it was all a result of policies that were short-term thinking in and of themselves.
"Oh boy lets give corporations all the authority and freedom they could ever want!"
"What they aren't raising wages, and are moving jobs overseas? How could this be! We must tariff and make corporations pass on costs to the consumer. That'll make them bring the jobs bag o algo!"
It was always neoliberalism. Thatcherism and Reagonomics are literally the definition of neoliberalism.
Then why the fuck do retards here go blaming that when it was spearheaded by their own party, and continued even now by their own party?
Make it make sense to me!
Left/right dichotomy is a false dichotomy at this point. Clinton reshaped the Democratic Party with his «third way» economics. Until Trump 2.0 you literally had two neoliberal parties in the US who differed only in social values, not economics (differences in economic policy was minuscule).
Who is mentioning Reagan? It isn't fucking me, because I have contempt for the Reagan worshiping sect of the GOP. Back in 2015 before Trump won the primary, the Republicans were going absolutely nowhere and wanted fucking Jeb Bush to be their nominee. Then Trump stepped on the stage and remade the whole party. You'll never see the Democrats do that with a "real socialist" or whatever not only because they've written their nomination process rules to explicitly prevent that but also because the Democrats at their core are enslaved to nationless corporations and NGO's.
This trend is not unique to the US by the way, labour parties all over the world stopped being socialist in the 80s and 90s and embraced neoliberalism with only minor differences.
left right is a false dichotomy
That's sort of what I was trying to say. I think we only differ o whether it changed with Trump 2.0, which I think it most certainly did not. The only point of contention with him and the neo-liberal class are the tariffs anyways. He still wants to continue the same policies of giving the corporate class extreme degrees of control and freedom over the economy instead of constricting them in ways that could prevent something like say for example... the 2008 financial crisis from happening again. Or even trying to find policies to help the working class, because bringing back factory jobs isn't going to do that.
Clinton didn't reshape shit. That's a revisionist meme to prop him up when the reality was he won the 1992 election thanks to a Ross Perot spoiler. His term was nothing but neoliberal managed decline.
And before you reply, please tell me what exactly the Democrats were like before Clinton and what they were like after. Because there was no fucking difference.
I feel bad but also humoured for Americans, literally threw every great achievement they had out the window
science is shit, science is about dei funds and grants, therefor shut it all down.
Trump is in the pocket of his billionaire allies who don’t really want to change the status quo and uses trump and his popularity to leverage tax cuts for the rich who would have been deeply unpopular among the voters with a less charismatic leader. The tariff shenanigans is just because Trump has an extremely flawed understanding of economics and most of his billionaire friends oppose them anyway. I would even go so far as saying that they play along with the theatre simply for the optics of “supporting Trump” because it’s a personality cult at this point.
"I HECKIN' LOVE SOYENCE! WE'RE JUST HAIRLESS, TAILLESS, THINKING APES! WAIT NO, WE'RE JUST FLOATING STARDUST IN THE VAST VOID OF NOTHINGNESS WHERE NOTHING MATTERS! ANYWAYS, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY SLURS, IT'S JUST BAD, OKAY?!"
Yeah no, I think we're 100% in agreement here lol. You even had congress people saying outright that they are only voting what Trump wants because they're afraid of him.
He says using a device made by science on a network started by government science (and maybe even built by government funding.)
go back 2 reddit nigger
You go back to xitter election tourist.
See Clinton marks the shift most clearly because of actual policies put in place but it was for sure a gradual shift in the 80s. It doesn’t change the fact that labour parties all around the world moved right to neoliberalism.
smartphones are made in china, americans can't make smartphones.
"OH MY FAUCI JUST TRUST THE SOYENCE GOY!"
redditniggers need to die, TRUMP WON, stay mad commie lib
Ignoring that you're a phone fag. That doesn't exclude the fact that a lot of the countries telecommunications was funded by government grands, and that the internet was started via government science programs.
Science does shit, you guys just lost faith in it because of poorly presented pop-science and the culture war melting your brain.
I find it ironic that magatards seethe about fauci all day but seemingly have no problems with the NIH purging vaccine harm data from their servers under the orders of RFK jr. even though they publicly said that they were going to do the opposite and “look into” vaccine damages more. They’re being lied to their face and they don’t even care at this point.
Incoherent seething because they probably got tariffed
lol shut up retard, you don't even know what you're talking about
I mean hell there's a good number of things (mostly pre-80s sadly) which shaped the modern world, or were built upon by private interests that were initially government funded programs. Stuff that had no profit motive to begin with, but translated to plenty of economic growth later on down the road.
And what products of ours does Norway buy?
en.wikipedia.org
Give me one (1) justification for removing datasets (including ones in vaccine harm). How can literal data points be “deranged DEI woke propaganda”?
Sorry, got that backwards. Same question but other way.
That didn't happen with Clinton. There was only one Democrat that could be called 'socialist' and that was FDR. JFK wasn't a socialist, LBJ wasn't a socialist, and neither was Ford, or were they somehow secret socialists all along and Clinton changed the party all by himself?
"Let me tell you about your own country" moment.
The ultimate issue is that they don't trust the data because they've been told over and over not to by people who don't want us to look at said data. So now it extends to any data what so ever.
The culture war has bred some weird absolute loyalty in some.
I have been brainwashed by demoncrats into thinking America being great is bad
ok retard
neoliberal world order create fake data points so you trust the science goy
That isn't engaging with what I was saying though anon. Do you not have something of substance to say?
It's no use arguing with him anons, I think he's brain dead.
Toure moving the goalpost. They weren’t socialist because the Democratic Party wasn’t a Labour Party. But they sure as hell weren’t neoliberals (which is the goalpost you’re moving away from). Neither were the Republican Party until the 80s btw.
Also why do you think that a world where we are manufacturers again will translate to wealth for the middle class when it'd me low wages and hard work that most people will try to avoid taking?
we get tons of things shipped in from Norway and they're stealing our jobs because of it. We need to bring back jobs to America and Trump is doing exactly that
Yes trust the government anon. It’s not like they would delete anything to cover it up. They’re just deleting it to protect you, there’s no need for you to see such things for yourself amirite.
What is "tons of things"? Because when I look it up it's a large percentile trade imbalance, but also a very low overall amount of trade comparatively to other countries. And besides they have higher wages than we do and (at least now) far lower tarriff rates (unless they raised them recently) anyways so whatever they are competing with us on it clearly isn't a matter of us not being able to produce it cheaper due to labor costs.
The seeds of neoliberalism start in the aftermath of WW2 and the economic philosophies of Keynes. You imagine a conspiracy by the center to undermine the left, but the fact is there never was a 'left' as you envision it in post-WW2 America and Europe and it was always neoliberal. "Muh Reagan and Thatcher" boogeyman is a story moronic leftists tell themselves so they can sleep at night, it's no different than the "Nixon-Reagan-Bush-Trump fascist-theocrat" boogeyman.
The left supported neoliberal parties because they believed in historical determinism, that eventually Trve Socialism TM would emerge from muh late stage capitalism, but the reality is union bosses worked with corporate bosses to enrich themselves and industrialize the west in order to either put you to work at McDonalds or ensure you're dependent on an unemployment check and thus vote Democrat/Labour/whatever like a good little boy.
Im pretty sure he’s trolling because the only things Norway exports are oil, gas, fish and furniture.
*deindustrialize the west
Why did wages decouple from productivity during Reagan though?
Also thoughts on Trump continuing the same neoliberal policies towards corporations? (sans tariffs of course).
Well he actually responded to what I was saying so I'll engage. Got no work tomorrow anyways so nothing better to do.
If this was true, and leftists “always aligned with neoliberalism”, then big tent labour parties in Europe wouldn’t have broken up along faction lines in the 70s and 80s. 3/4ths of Europe’s socialist parties are splinter parties from their respective labour parties (the remaining 1/4th came from the “other side”, moderate communists moving away from communism).
He's talking about the US only. Always assume they are.
*ideological faction lines
Well he said “and Europe” in there, but you’re right that one is on me.
in a recession since like 2022
decrease government spending
America is saved or something!
Yeah because elites definitely haven’t been importing millions of 3rd worlders for cheap labor to ruin the country for actual Americans. Good one retard. At least 100 million need to be deported and trump is not doing enough towards that end. Imagine a California without all the latrinos and jeets, a paradise that once was and can be again
Spics out Jeets in!
That way the white boys can take the low paying farming and processing plant jobs and leave the high paying office jobs.
Mass amnesty for illegals that should’ve been deported or worse, which gave the signal that any short brown retard that wants to come into the US can. Also computers increase productivity with no extra work by the employee
This sentiment has unironically infested peoples minds
I know you scammed your way into the US baljeet so you can’t actually comprehend English, but Indians are included in the deportations in a just society. Scammers and cheaters that will turn the most beautiful environments into garbage filled wastelands covered in shit, depress wages and increase housing costs as well
Reality disagree with the orange retard which means reality is wrong and woke. We've always been at war with eastasia
Good. Don't wanna have retards voting that think the earth is flat.
Double plus ungood
un-patentable research to benefit our own people and all mankind?
soy and woke.
500 billion dollars for le AI homework maker app (this will make my stock go up)
poggers!