you do support palestine, right anon?
You do support palestine, right anon?
I will if you both give me sex.
they are jewish, ranjeet
this country has lost so much because of palestine worshippers it's insane
what did you lose?
I will check my budget and see if I can donate some money to the Hind Rajab Foundation
basically everything
niggers who think they are arabs whose job is to defend the heckin ummah ruined our country
remember to ignore us for your fortunes (hezzbolah weakened to nigh eradication) and blame us for your misfortunes (non domestic government forces violate your sovereignty)
Boobs not big enough.
it's not a fortune to have your land occupied for 18 years which spawned an iranian proxy terrorist organization masquerading as "resistance"
I'm dating a jewish girl with huge tits
Uhh Lebanon was the "pearl of the middle east" before the '80s
I'm dating a jewish girl with huge tits
And I'm dating a chinese girl with slanted eyes...
How do you support geographic region?
And a sideways vagina?
and blame us for your misfortunes (non domestic government forces violate your sovereignty)
like clockwork
I support Palestinian and Israeli women have sex with me. Otherwise I hope they either find peace or wipe each other out and save us all the trouble of their continued existence
based except instead of palestinian and israeli it's british and irish.
I inb4'd you therefore u r wrong
The reality is that if you had treated the local population better things would have gone very differently. Instead you decided to destroy the local economy and flood the market with Israeli currency and products so they could become more dependent on Israel and be used as a source of cheap labor. And that wasn't even the biggest problem. The biggest issue was the way your soldiers mistreated locals who had until then done nothing but welcomed you as a force to counteract Palestinian militants.
give me the sources referring to your complaints
also how would you prefer an external government fight your local militias?
Israel sought to integrate South Lebanon into its economy, emphasizing trade links and the free movement of goods and individuals. However, this integration was largely one-sided, with Israel benefiting economically while imposing its influence on the region. For instance, significant quantities of produce, including strawberries, grapes, mangoes, and apricots, flowed from Israel into South Lebanon, highlighting the economic disparity and asymmetry of power.
sites.aub.edu.lb
"The great success of south Lebanon is the creation of a situation of dependency," says a senior IDF officer in Lebanon. "That dependency leads to a freedom of operation and movement by the IDF. Our operations and presence in built-up areas in south Lebanon can only work as long as we can control the population."
hrw.org
The mistreatment is extremely well documented.
SOUTHERN LEBANON: OCCUPATION BY ISRAEL TRAUMA FOR ALL SIDES: nytimes.com
Civilians Summarily Expelled from Israeli-Occupied South Lebanon: hrw.org
Israeli Violations of Human Rights of Lebanese Civilians: btselem.org
also how would you prefer an external government fight your local militias?
The PLO was not our militia. Arab pigs pressured the weak Lebanese government to let it operate it in our land and the U.S. and France did nothing to counteract this pressure. Lebanon was caught in the crossfire like usual.
After having expelled the PLO, Israel should have supported a non-sectarian pro-Israel security force and withdrawn. Basically what the SLA was supposed to be on paper and in propaganda.
Sweety those sources are not good and antisemitic leftist or something
SLA
Afaik leftards got into power in Israel and fucked South Lebanon over
sites.aub.edu.lb
the sources for this article are a mix of pan arabists, french journal, geopolitical studies and leftists globalists (reuters)
i can't speak for the geopolitical studies but the rest i won't bother with
some of these are from 2023 btw (newarab.com
hrw takes money from qatar
new york times, read about Walter Duranty
btselem - crazy far left wackos
these sources are all far left, you're keeping alive the tradition of being a proxy for the soviet union. why?
this was your only source that originated from lebanon btw (aub.edu.lb
The PLO was not our militia.
it was on your land. your sovereignty.
After having expelled the PLO, Israel should have supported a non-sectarian pro-Israel security force and withdrawn. Basically what the SLA was supposed to be on paper and in propaganda.
not everything lives up to our ideals. we tried. and war is ugly.
we're not the only ones to blame when your leftists ideals get smashed against the rocks of reality.
Yes.
Have you ever met an Australian Lebo? What do you think of them?
2 of the sources (the ones that actually pertain to the part I quoted) for the article are academic papers.
these sources are all far left
you have a funny definition of far left if it includes HRW and NYT
Regardless you can find parts that corroborate Israel intention to further isolate South Lebanon and turn it into another West Bank or Gaza in declassified CIA reports.
cia.gov
Israel has already taken some moves to develop a closer economic relationship with southern Lebanon. Haifa has been promoted as a duty-free port of entry, diverting traffic from Beirut and increasing the south's reliance on Israel. Over time this trend is certain to become further entrenched. Practical realities will force the southerners to come to terms with Israeli currency and products as ties with the rest of Lebanon erode.
The Lebanese could also become another source of cheap labor for Israel much as West Bankers and Gazans have already been used. Even before last year's invasion Lebanese from Major Haddad's enclave crossed the "Good Fence" every day to work in several northern Galilee kibbutzim.
cia.gov
Israel's covetous designs on south-ern Lebanon are explained in a top-secret CLA report, which states: "Hardliners in Israel have for years pointed out that Israel, by seizing territory up to the Litani River, would gain a more defensive border and a greater supply of water."
At the start of the West Beirut invasion, Begin assured Reagan in a private message that Israel "did not covet one inch of Lebanese territory." In early June, he had publicly declared in the Knesset that Israel didn't want "one square millimeter of Lebanese territory."
The White House no longer has faith in these assurances.
cia.gov
Lahad recently announced that the ASL holds approximately 200 Shia fighters in a southern Lebanese prison near Al Khiyam. Lahad has fended off Israel requests--in response to frequent International Red Cross (IRC) entreaties and Washington's urging --to allow the IRC access to the detainees. Israeli efforts have probably been half-hearted--in our judgment Israel has sufficient leverage over Lahad to force him to comply with these requests.
en.wikipedia.org
cia.gov
The Peres government is aware that Israel's continuing occupation of southern Lebanon is helping to radicalize the Shia community by giving the fundamentalist, radical Hizballah movement cause to undercut the credibility of the mainstream, more moderate Shiite group Amal.
I've met Lebanese who live/have lived in Australia just like I've met ones who've lived in the U.S., Sierra Leone, Gabon, Venezuela, Brazil, France, Canada, etc. It's not something remarkable.
What do you think of them?
I think it's a shame that we're not doing enough to connect with our diaspora in general. Sadly many who left during the civil war still have an outdated civil war era view of Lebanon.
i appreciate the cia sources (even though i think the cia is somewhat morally shallow in their analyses) but i need to understand from you, in clear terms, what would have been reasonable action by israel in reacting to the PLO operating in southern lebanon, and how your plan doesn't unfairly hold us to a higher relative standard.
the rest of the green text
war is ugly. i don't have much to add. i personally don't believe peace is possible with neighboring arabs in their current form - there are too many dissonant fundamental values. if they were more individualist and liberal than peace would have been achieved long ago. but then again if they more individualist and liberal to begin with they wouldn't identify as part of the former arab empire i guess.
It's not something remarkable.
I ask because I sometimes hear that many of the ones who came here after the civil war brought along the Northern crime families that were a bit Arab-brained. I like Lebanese Maronites a lot. But the Muslim ones here seem dissonant with my image of what Lebanon used to represent.
Yeah, a certain poor subcommunity moved to Australia during the civil war and they had a hard time integrating. Since they considered themselves to be Arab they started grouping with Arabs and other muslims (including wahabbists) and acting the way they do. Someone linked me a video of "Lebo music" once and it sounded like a poor imitation of ghetto African American music. Somewhat embarrassing desu.
what would have been reasonable action by israel in reacting to the PLO operating in southern lebanon, and how your plan doesn't unfairly hold us to a higher relative standard.
I already mentioned: Expel the PLO, fund a non-sectarian pro-Israel security force and withdraw. Israel has a right to eliminate active threats to it but I don't see how that translates to 18 years of occupation when there are simpler solutions that are also less costly.
they wouldn't identify as part of the former arab empire i guess
Maybe like 15% of Lebanese identity with an "arab empire". Even our Sunnis have a "Lebanon First" approach.
herpes
Keep them away from me.
People from that region have a very interesting look, this one is or was a Samaritan.
Someone linked me a video of "Lebo music" once and it sounded like a poor imitation of ghetto African American music. Somewhat embarrassing desu.
Lol. Take a look at this:
youtube.com
Mr. Hafizi having a whinge about police brutality. It's similar with Australian Croats. Many of them who came were former Ustase and look completely backwards compared to the people in the fatherland.
>what would have been reasonable action by israel in reacting to the PLO operating in southern lebanon, and how your plan doesn't unfairly hold us to a higher relative standard.
I already mentioned: Expel the PLO, fund a non-sectarian pro-Israel security force and withdraw. Israel has a right to eliminate active threats to it but I don't see how that translates to 18 years of occupation when there are simpler solutions that are also less costly.
yeah i think we've exhausted this
Maybe like 15% of Lebanese identity with an "arab empire". Even our Sunnis have a "Lebanon First" approach.
do you believe that by virtue of speaking arabic the lebanese are identifying with their occupiers and colonizers?
No.
do you believe that by virtue of speaking arabic the lebanese are identifying with their occupiers and colonizers?
Yes, but in a similar way to half of the educated population being fluent in French or Persians using Arabic script. There doesn't have to be animosity or hostility behind viewing things this way.
To me speaking Arabic is an obvious leftover from having an Arab administrative class ruling over us during periods of Islamic caliphates. Most Lebanese don't see it that way but from an objective perspective you could call Arabs colonizers for changing our language and culture, though they did not replace the native population.
FWIW I wish we had never adopted the "Arab" delusion but this happened many many centuries ago. Lebanon has been been ruled by many empires over the course of history so if it weren't Arabic it would have been Latin or Greek or Syriac or whatever. Maybe it's unironically better to adopt Hebrew since it's closer to the native Canaanite language we had.
kek his porn-tier acting is funny.
interesting.
what do you most like about lebanon? what do you most identify with?
I would die for Israel
I like and identity with all the Levantine or Canaanite parts that don't have to do with Arabs.
TPD
I like and identity with all the Levantine or Canaanite parts that don't have to do with Arabs.
could you drop some links so i can read up a bit on it?
This civil war must end. Brothers killing brothers. Sisters killing sisters.
Jews and Palestinians are much closer than Swedes and Finns for example.
You have no excuse for not loving each other.
identity
identify
Jews and Palestinians are much closer than Swedes and Finns for example.
open a history and theology book sven. stop projecting and stay out of affairs that are over your northern cold head.
open a history
Maybe you should do it?
Do you know what 2 countries hold the world record for most wars fought between each other?
Sweden and Denmark. Today we would die to protect each other.
It is much nicer to have friends instead of enemies.
theology
Cringe.
And White women are dating Black Bvlls with huge dicks
you should call the NYT jewish left since that's what they actually are
nothing is more important to them than jews