We lost all of our aura fr

russia was only our enemy because of autism inherited from the bongs
china and russia are geopolitical enemies

It's weird that you say the US-Russia cannot ally because of historical reasons while overlooking that Russia and China also had a falling out in the 20th century.

Russia was your enemy because of YOUR autistic crusade against communism. Holy shit do Americans literally not know this stuff kek
Anyways, the point remains. China is reliable and behaves like a professional business partner, the US is a seething insane toddler who will threaten to murder you over nothing (as Canada is currently discovering)

I like how every time America does something for Europe, it suddenly becomes America's idea.

French fight colonial war in Vietnam

ask US for help

US says yes

it is now the US's problem, and nobody else's

or even better

the UK and French draw up retarded borders in Middle East

these borders do not work

the Arabs start bombing shit and taking over planes

Europe begs US for help

US says yes

now it is the US's problem forever

I tire of this. Let's just let Europe, and Australia perhaps, fight their own battles from now on.

Are you guys genuinely fucking retarded?Fucking hell the latinx refugees really took a toll on this country

China

Hmm yes this deal works for us, it is mutually beneficial and we will abide by its terms

Pleasure doing business with you.

USA

I agree to these terms and conditions which I negotiated- PSYCHE! IM GOING TO FUCKING KILL YOU AND TAKE YOUR FUCKING LAND YOU FUCKING COMMUNIST, STOP ATTACKING ME!!!

Hmmm I wonder which state Moscow would rather have to put up with.

What’s the point of punishing domestic business for importing, instead of investing in domestic industries to strengthen those sectors?

”NOOOOO LALLALALALL THE STEEL INDUSTRY DOESNT NEED TO EVOLVE LALALALLALA I CANT HEAR YOU TARIFF TARIFF TARIFF NOTHING HAS CHANGED SINCE THE 1940S”

It’s beyond parody

You sound like a redditor

yeah bro every country must be a badass prosperous autarky nation like North Korea(that has to beg for foreign aid once every 3 years)

instead of investing in domestic industries to strengthen those sectors

that doesn't work. shareholders just pocket the money.

You were opposed to the Soviet Union, not just Vietnam. You were the ones who created NATO to literally just oppose Moscow's aims. I'm not saying the Russians were dindu nuffins, but the US was not strongarmed into anything here, your Capitalist ruling elite simply had conflicting interests with the Marxist superpower.

>the UK and French draw up retarded borders in Middle East

>these borders do not work

>the Arabs start bombing shit and taking over planes

>Europe begs US for help

Classic lying perfidious Yanks lmao, trying to evade responsibility for their actions. Good thing the Arabs aren't stupid (and boy are they usually stupid) enough to fall for that and they correctly still identify you as the main beneficiary of Israel and the leading cause of the 2003 Iraq War (which your "based traditional conservatives" started for no reason and based on lies).

Crazy how it literally worked for Japan, Korea and China. But I guess investing in education and thinking 20 years ahead is too much for Americans to bear, especially the education part (the Bible is all the kids need to learn!)

The US has always had a reputation for high quality products, China has always had a reputation for flimsy cheap products.

Why not use federal investments, and double down on your steel industry, make it the worlds best quality, and make it green too. Show companiea that the US has the best R&D in the world and can produce the highest quality carbon neutral steel in the world, and show that with China you just get cheap shit?

Nah, fuck that, just impose tariffs, never invest, and make it a race to the bottom forever.

Russia was your enemy because of YOUR autistic crusade against communism

And there's no more communism in Russia since 1991.

Never addressing my main point because you're just smart enough to realize you can't counter it :)
Your national life expectancy is below China as well btw

It worked in those countries because China is a one party state, Japan is ruled by one party, and South Korea is ruled by chaebols

Never addressing my main point

Because you glossed over my post here and deflected to some other shit. No point in seriously arguing with you. You obviously talk in bad faith like a Redditor or just a really bad troll.

it may take some time
but somewhere down the line
we'll be in love again

Yeah but Russia is still governed by literal KGB veterans who, despite not being Marxists, are obviously not Americanphiles either given that they've publicly and vocally called out the USA as the main culprit for what they perceive as their nation's humiliation and degradation on the world stage back in the 1990s.
It's in Russia's interests to promote the whole BRICS meme hype and a "multipolar world" to chip away at US influence which has encourached in their backyard since 1991. They have no reason to support more US hegemony and more US dominance when it hasn't benefitted them at any point.

The issue with bringing up the Sino-Soviet era here is that Mao Zedong was a batshit basketcase who unleashed domestic chaos then, but now *you* are the ones ruled by a batshit cult of personality and schizophrenic society.
It's obvious you lot are literally too dense to understand why other countries don't trust you anymore, but you have to understand that the whole chimp out on Canada was basically the USA telling everyone "if you are a cooperative and friendly neighbor who has never done me any harm, I will threaten to attack you and will tear up any trade agreements we agreed upon".

euros would destroy russia first

I thought tariffs didnt worked

Because the Russians don't like you?

Neither do EU member states
Also that has nothing to do with geopolitical alliances. Russians neither like tajiks but they are allied

a historic enemy

History is a meaningless collection of non-existent realities and self referential content, germany and france are also historical enemy states. Whats about it?

currently an unreliable schizophrenic country that does not honour any deals it makes

Because america is the world hegemon in military material and have a set of teritorial interests more compatible than russia and china especially in regards to siberia.
Russia needs america to keep china at bay in siberia.
Also the chinese are much more competitive. There is better reasons for russians who are ultimately white europeans with a large colonial settler empire to ally with americans over some completly alien race with completely different civilizational, historical, racial and geopolitical interests

Like what the fuck is this meme of allying over imaginary lines?

we're the only people they're legally allowed to hate

threaten to attack you

never happened

tear up any trade agreements we agreed upon

retard, trump was the one who tore up NAFTA and replaced it with USCMA, which he's never given any indication of reneging upon.

if canada and america united, the nation would have more oil than the middle east thanks to alberta, salaries in canada would 3x, and they wouldn't have to kowtow to china.

yes I also think tariffing canada and mexico and the rest of the world is retarded and unnecessary, there's no reason for american software engineers to tariff vietnamese rice farmers, it's retarded.

but stop making disingenuous arguments.

it's also now clear that canadians hate americans so such a union will never happen.

Neither do EU member states

Also that has nothing to do with geopolitical alliances. Russians neither like tajiks but they are allied

I meant their ruling class don't like Americans. Like fucking Putin himself and his cronies blame America for the shit Russia was in for years after the collapse of the USSR.
History is quite relevant when the issues are not actually settled, and Russia invading Ukraine is a sign that they obviously don't see the current order as "settled" at all. It's pretty fucking simple, Russia wants to revise the US Hegemonic world order and the US doesn't want to lose its hegemony.

Siberia

The idea that China will invade and annex land from any nuclear state is nonsense. Russia can always kill 300+ million Chinese with the click of a button thanks to ICBMs, a hot war like that between nuclear powers just isn't happening any time soon. It makes far more sense for the Chinese to simply have access to Siberian resources by trading with Russia, it's really not a big deal for them that they don't formally own it on a map, they still profit from it through other means and without having to sacrifice much at all.

There is better reasons for russians who are ultimately white europeans with a large colonial settler empire to ally with americans

Americans and Russians are totally alien to each other, Yanks literally cannot comprehend how Russian culture works because the American Culture War is such a retarded toddler binary view of the world, it breaks their fucking minds when they learn that conservatism in Russia involves nostalgia for literal communism lmao

it's also now clear that canadians hate americans so such a union will never happen.

Yeah they hate you explicitly because of your elected President insulting their Prime Minister and country by deliberately calling him "Governor" and then threatening to make them the 51st state (after also having made threats about seizing Greenland from yet another cooperative ally).
Americans not understanding why this pisses off some people is explicitly why you're hated. Nobody else in the world understands how you people think, it's utterly incomprehensible to us to try and imagine the mindset of someone who says they'll take your house and then cries about being the victimized party here

Yeah but Russia is still governed by literal KGB veterans

Anon, the reason the soviet union collapsed was because not its proles, but broadly its Intelligentsia; namely its profesional managerial classes, academics, politicians, party members, intellectuals, artists, organizers, etc fell in disenchantment with revoltionary socialism and communist ideals. The communist spirit of russia imploded and degenerated in ideas such as those KGB affiliated jews like curtis yarvin hold; based on some degree of material dialectics while also largely anti-communist and reactionary

given that they've publicly and vocally called out the USA as the main culprit for what they perceive as their nation's humiliation

This is very easy to change if america changes attitude. Is not like the slavic population of russia has a deep seathed resentment towards americans in a higher level than they resent their local churka.
Blood is thicker than water, political resentment only goes so far, ethnic resentment can be swept under the rug but rarely dispelled.
It's always beating, expanding roots, seeking alternative ways to spread, incrementally creating mechanisms of defense and attack.

It's in Russia's interests to promote the whole BRICS meme hype and a "multipolar world" to chip away at US influence

Russia is an eurasian country. Its territorial and trade interests entail largely disarming and gaining control over its neighbouring regions. Namely china, central asia, europe, west asia.
The US has a bone to pick in latin america for which china must remain at bay. The US and russia, as does israel, have all a regional hegemony interest china might be blocking

Israel wants to get rid of Iran and Turkey.
Russia eants to remove NATO and the EU while retaining siberia? America wants everything down to panama and arguably south america.

China territorial interests entail southeast asia and africa which is on waiting list, and india is in a similar ship

that's a lot of inference on your part, don't you think?

No we actually do despise you now. Even our chuds broadly hate the usa now

he's not inferring anything he's right

Europeans talk a lot but they never do anything unless somebody is holding their hand for them

I meant their ruling class don't like Americans

Oh anon, the russian oligarchy is very fond of america considered they are mostly the same oligarccy that engaged in mass privatizations and just very casually largely holds israeli passports

There is sime anti-americanism? Sure, but is nothing beyond inconsequential politicak disagreements.
Russia also is going thorugh generational sucession, the people older than 18 when the soviet union fell is already on their 50s, most generally on their 60s and 70s.

Russia invading Ukraine is a sign that they obviously don't see the current order as "settled" at all

The only people under that blis are neocon and neolib ancient boomers that are trying to install surveillance and thought the End of History was real and liberalism really defeated Nationalism and Communism for good.

If anything current events such as the need to defend territorial sivereignity, Israeli jews proving the selfless holocaust victims were actually bloodstarved ethnic nationalists that founded a colonial ethnostate at expense of other race, the disenchantment with neoliberal progressivism, the economic downturn and living standards plumetting on the western world from europe to CANZUK and even within america coupled with a rise of the far right, etc. Are if anything indicating to anyone that is not a descerebrated boomer that the liberal world order is contracting and in free fall.
Needless to mention the trade hegemony of the US withering and its national security and integrity of its markets being maimed by progressive globalism opening al of its inmune systems to foreign national interests and interference from enemy states (observe the palestine foreign policy fallout)

The idea that China will invade and annex land from any nuclear state is nonsense

There is many ways once america is out if it ever goes out for china to take control over places like suberia, ranging from military to economic and soft power market assimilation

Americans and Russians are totally alien to each other

Superficially? Yes, at the core of what they are? No, not really.
I can make you sure the most gut-rooted reactions reveal allegiance like statehood and hiatory cannot

Do you know why LGBT, trannies, feminism and similar movements tend to be international and effective at targeting international aidience? Because they appeal to common denominators at the lower indexes.
They seek the most basic material similitudes to construct a thesis. Since they take root in material conditions, they tend to succed anywhere and unravel their full dialectical expression in so far they have space to expand their narrative and its consequences.
Among those very basic characeristics, like productive relations (class), re-productive relations (gender) and so forth, which are concepts rooted in material characteristics that consolidate an arrangement of mechanism to persist and reproduce themselves.
There is one such as race, or tribe, bodily characteristics. Which is close to class and gender in order of importance, and often is a conjunction of both creating a tri-bal identity.

I might sound schizo idk is late here, but these characters are also in their own crusade for survival and persistence like any other biological character, no less than gender or the state, the state and capitalism are also pressure factors against the body and the tribe. But the tribe persists by reproduction, and i can tell you there is many russians that want their slavic white race reproduce more than they care about the russian state and its federated state with some churka from yakutia.
They will feel disgust when they see a yakut from the hand of a russian that hey wont when they see an american.
You underestimate the weight of the body

it's utterly incomprehensible to us to try and imagine the mindset of someone who says they'll take your house and then cries about being the victimized party here

newsflash retard, that’s the history of everyone everywhere for all time