Which one of these two has been more culturally westernized?
Which one of these two has been more culturally westernized?
right 100%
Japan legalized homo marriage so probably right
left 100%
Definitely Korea
They perform male circumcisions in Korea just because we told them to. There isn't a more cucked vassal state on earth.
South Korea of course, not even a debate
Whoever says right needs to lurk moar
S. Korea. When Japan "Westernized" during Meiji they did it on their own terms. They've also insanely conservative and keep a lot more of their old customs and structures for better or for worse
do you guys still do it? like gen alpha kids still get circumcised at birth? I'm genuinely asking because it boggles my mind.
Yes. Its insanely fucked up though I think its tapering off, my friends in New York are planning on having a kid and they said they don't want to circumcise if it's a boy
I think they're both westernized in different ways. Japan is more white culturally, Korea is more black culturally
well good for them. I'm guessing it's way more prevalent in the midwest and south. but its really weird to see how american culture has become so liberal for the past decade and yet the atrocities of circumcision is still not in mainstream awareness territory.
You are still doing them too. 80% of you are cut.
infant circumcision in korea was a fad in the late 80s and early 90s. most circumcision were done at pre teen until the 2000s. and for older men it was done in the army.
the thing about circumcision in korea is that unlike america, there was a widespread awarenss that happened around early 2010s with the internet and some media personality that circumcision has become rapidly rare. It's really hard to find guys who are circumcised who are in their teens now. The 80% is an old study done some time in the early 2000s. and at that point that was true.
Everything in America becomes a culture war issue. We're also insanely religious for developed country standards which plays a part, Evangelicals are gonna do their thing
Yeah America is such a diverse group of people and culture. It's gonna be hard to have a unified trend in change.
Especially as there is no scientifically supported reason to change it
Its lobbing off the most sensitive part of a boy's body when they're brand new to the world and at their most impressionable and defenseless. There's no reason to do it in a modern age where everyone has access to soap and running water
Having more nerve endings =/= more sensitive and sensitivity =/= pleasure
this is cope
Retard
There are a lot of nerve endings in your eyeballs how good does it feel to touch them
Sadly right, I want my ecchi animes and games back
a dick and foreskin has pleasurable nerve endings. not just whatever nerve endings.
Nothing happens to the penis itself during circumcision
Meh I don't really want to have this paint by numbers intactivist npc argument again you're wrong circumcision isn't going away and in fact is become more common in the developed world with backing from WHO deal with it retard
you are insane. have a nice day.
You're insane
Also removing a vesitigial piece of skin causes the babys brain to mutate and destroys their psychic potential
I know this because a single (1) doctor who has since been disbarred claimed to have abducted a baby and used a multimillion dollar machine without any permissions circumcised the baby scanned its brain a minute later and printed spooky photos of the babys brain
Unrelated he just happened to have a book coming out and several speaking engagements weird huh
This same doctor believes giants built the pyramids and duct tape is alien tech btw
But you are insane.
K
Foreskin isnt vestigal and you have a right to experiencing pleasure. Cope.
Korea
Korea is more Christian than Japan, and they have one of the highest circumcision rates in the world, alongside us. Japs were having homosex before our country was even formed.
you're the kind of person who would fold to authoritarian government immediately
Having more nerve endings =/= more sensitive and sensitivity =/= pleasure
Don't make me introduce you to the Prostate.
You're the kind of person that gives all their money away to bald edads that tell you things that agree with your mental illness
I think South Korea is more American than Japan.
Evangelicalism has nothing to do with Christianity.
on the surface, korea 100%. but it has its immune system that's activating against globohomo poz. without its conscription, it would have been fully globohomo'd 10 years ago.
japan seems more based on the surface but its rot is a lot deeper and dysfunctional. they've even commodified friendship- it is profoundly sick underneath the based exterior.
at least korea isn't normalizing the hardcore pornification of their own females. sexualization of idols sure, but even then signs of fatigue is there. degen streamers and sex workers are still considered as freaks.
ntm their ethno-consciousness is still there and functioning.
tl;dr: elite-driven globohomo poz is floating like oil on the surface and that's all we see, but the swingback has happened and it's just the beginning.
how come I haven't done that at all then
Probably because its difficult for schizotypals to hold down a job
people who get circumcisions when they're older say it doesn't really feel that different
Intactivist arguments have nothing to do with reality they are almost always a cover for antisemitism (even though 99.99% of circs done in the states are not done for religious purposes) the poltard in question is too much of a pussy to say outright
at least korea isn't normalizing the hardcore pornification of their own females
Fucking lmao are you serious, they're even more gross about it than the Japs are
en.wikipedia.org
Intactivist arguments
It's a consent thing, retard.
That is your only legitimate argument you should use that one instead of all the dumb ones about muh sensitivity and muh psychic damage that can be debunked in minutes
evangelicalism is the whig-anglo apotheosis of Christianity, stupid mick. protestant missionaries served the double purpose of conducting the vast majority of American foreign policy in East Asia solely so the anglo mindvirus could metastasize into global armageddon. the anglo and christcuck mindviruses are as inseparable as romeo and juliette
Kim bows to Ohtani in awe, such a loyal behavior can't be seen in the westernized ones
I never used the inactivity argument itt.
ah yes, revenge porn and feminist hating incels enjoying an illegal activity is comparable to an entire industry whoring out their own women to itself and rest of the world. yes, molka is normalized.
you even have the iq to wipe your ass correctly?
they've even commodified friendship
They did? Wdym
an entire industry whoring out their own women to itself and rest of the world.
Korean girls get dicked down by American military personnel WAY more than Japs do. And these days every country has a porn industry, the only reason Japan's sticks out is because they do it better than anyone.
you even have the iq to wipe your ass correctly?
I have an IQ high enough to tell that you're a cucked Korean-American progressive living in L.A lol.
Don't act like this doesnt happen in your country or anywhere else. Gook radfems love to sensationalize this and westerners just believe whatever they have to say.
NTA but apparently those sites get a lot of visits, so it seems like its pretty a popular porn genre in squidland
they have services nowadays where you pay for companionship. like hire-a-friend type of service.
one of the only countries with domestic hardcore porn production is banned
sites muh american military
calls a fascist a progressive
you okay lil bro? trust me, simping for japs in this debate won't make them any less spiritually more collapsed than korea. youre either a weeb amerimutt faggot or weeb selfhating gyope.
which one?
Don't act like this doesnt happen in your country or anywhere else
I won't deny it (that's why airbnbs are treated with such suspicion here), but you guys are nuts with it compared to everywhere else barring the gulf states.
South Korea by a massive long shot.
They cut their penises(because americans do that) and they worship Christ(yep, asian christians)
so kor v jap bait is still working huh
Both
The world has westernized to degree that it’s normal like fish in water
We all wear t shirts and jeans, but anyone wearing anything trad makes people reeeee
yea because of hatred of feminist. but underbelly activities happen everywhere. squids are definite coomers, but the average only coom to jav or western porn.
you can reddit akshually all day long but what im saying is that there isn't a normalized culture of pornification anywhere near the degree of japan or america. and that's facts.
every country has a porn industry!!!
sneaky cunt conveniently ignores the size of the industries. JAV is huge and no one comes near. you know it.
Ah yes, I figured you are one of the retards who believe anything those insane radfems post on Xitter. You are a braindead drone.
Depraved
They need drugs and hookers if they can’t marry
and more importantly, squid youth see globohomo and all its poz trimming as foreign and cringe. in about 10 years we're going to see the poz gradually fade from even their pop-culture.
There is no reason to circumcise except for religious one. Zero. Nada. If you think otherwise, you got scammed by Jews big time.
>one of the only countries with domestic hardcore porn production is banned
They just go to America, Russia, Canada, and Japan to do porn retard. It is insane how you're in such self-denial about how your women are no different than anywhere else.
>sites muh american military
Chad and Tyrone in the USFK infamously love Korean girls, and Korean girls infamously love them more than their own men who are really nothing but weird small-dicked pervs or femboys with little inbetween. Hell, we've got tons of Korean mutts that move here due to these relationships.
>calls a fascist a progressive
All the based presidents you had be they Rhee, Park, or Hwan were our guys and backed by the CIA. We tried to bring back the basedness last year but the guys on your end were literally too cucked to pull it off lol.
simping for japs in this debate won't make them any less spiritually more collapsed than korea
I'm not disagreeing, but Korea is objectively less soulful than Japan because American influence there is so much more toxic. Japs for all their faults don't live in a literal cyberpunk dystopia ran by Samsung and Hyundai that still has Cold War-era conscription policies in place, while feminism there is far weaker than it is in SK.
BTW I prefer Taiwan over both of you guys.
These problems would unironically go away if porn is legal in Korea. It's fucking absurd how simple the solution is. Every countrymen like to jack off to their own country women. And there are no naked adult pornstars in korea like JAV so these traffics bleed into retarded shit like this. Fucking grim sex repressed man hating country.
major platforms like xitter
X is not a major platform in Korea in any respect, what is she talking about
What's so tiring about this situation is that the lefty feminist tiny echo chamber in Korea is a huge megaphone for the rest of the world
You are a braindead drone.
Am I? You're the one defending retarded Cold War-era porn bans (put in place by US btw) and can't connect the dots that your guys' weird sexual policies have turned your women into psycho femcels and your men into nymphomaniacal gooners that jerk off to homemade toilet cams.
le cyberpunk dystopia ran by Samsung and Hyundai
Doesn't get more repetitive than this lmao. youtube experts, ffs.
btw, American GIs are stereotyped to be carrying STDs. They are kinda like niggers of S.Korea.
it's on xitter so it must be true!
If you are not just ragebaiting then you must be genuinely retarded to believe this shit
I love both of them in different ways
They are kinda like niggers of S.Korea.
Because a lot of them are niggers.
Doesn't get more repetitive than this lmao
Your annual labor hours, birth rates, and suicide rates would say otherwise
I already can tell you have a zero idea or understanding of how actually it's like here since you think we jerk off to toilet cams lmao. Go out and look up for yourself. You can't find that shit anywhere on the internet. It's sensationlized like everything else about Korea nowadays and soulless drones like you who are not capable of critical thinking just believe whatever gook radfems have to say on Xitter. This is just it.
What the fuck are you incel faggots still even debating about? Go touch grass idiots
They just go to America, Russia, Canada, and Japan to do porn retard.
Women are the same every retard. I'm talking about the public normalization of it. You that touched or can you not understand the difference between public acceptance and private consumption of taboo in private? Korea doesn't have OF or a hardcore industry to the size and prominence of Japan or America. You cant refute this so you'll resort to exceptions that end up proving my point.
Chad and Tyrone in the USFK infamously love Korean girls, and Korean girls infamously love them more than their own men who are really nothing but weird small-dicked pervs or femboys with little inbetween.
Exhibit A. Clearly this is personal for you LMAO. What happened, you got cucked by a Kim? You chinese by any chance?
All the based presidents you had be they Rhee, Park, or Hwan were our guys and backed by the CIA.
Yea and soon as they wanted real sovereignty, they got killed. And these 'fascists' did nothing to clean house of jap-collaborating elites who form the elites to this very day, IMF being the prime example of their control over any actual fascist/nationalist faction. Trying to pawn off Yoon's move as 'CIA' backed LMAO. Is CIA an agent of globohomo poz that weakens nations or do they strengthen nations by backing their nationalists? Actually sub 95 iq.
I'm not disagreeing, but Korea is objectively less soulful than Japan because American influence there is so much more toxic
I can concede all day that it's more pozzed on the surface than Japan lol. But its general population' moral immune system hasn't collapsed like yours or Japan's. Modern form of globohomo didnt even need to take over japan because it was already dead. The telos of globohomo: atomization, depolarization, and nihilism already won there.
muh cyberpunk
Actually confirmed brainlet.
prefer taiwan
chink confirmed.
now i get why this feels so personal for you
Rhee, Park
backed by the CIA
I don't care if you're referring to a meme, but please don't pretend you know what you're talking about when you don't
They were both planned for elimination by the CIA, it's just a matter of debate whether or not they were actually executed
And it's Chun not Hwan
since you think we jerk off to toilet cams lmao
Sorry my mistake, did you want me to say you guys actually jerk off to shitty overly censored homemade hentai knockoffs, i.e Lehzin?
You can't find that shit anywhere on the internet
I know you're denying it's an acute problem there because it's a serious problem here that infamously goes largely unreported. The fact that it's such an issue there that it actually gets attention is nuts to me. I mean fuck, you guys do it OUTSIDE of Korea in Western cunts.
m.koreaherald.com
bbc.com
gook radfems
Nobody here hates feminism and 4Bcels more than me, but fucking seriously look in the mirror. You guys are the weakest, most insecure, effeminate, catty men on the planet by a mile. Jeets at least have delusional self-confidence going in their favor, Blacks that aren't fatasses have their physique, while most bitchy, effeminate White men like this know their place and become bottoms to stronger, better (usually White) men.
Are you the korean nigga I was arguing with yesterday
muzzie girl w daddy issue?
I think you called me a fat shitskin in a different thread and I demand an apology
infamously goes largely unreported
This is such a bad faith argument and you know itm you'd just say this to every stat that goes against your narrative.
The fact that it's such an issue there that it actually gets attention is nuts to me
Gook feminists make a huge fuss about "a woman being murdered every 2 days" but everyone knows SK has a extremely low murder rate. Feminists have a big platform here because the majority party is democrats. Just because it's discussed a lot doesn't mean it's an actual problem.
They were both planned for elimination by the CIA
LMAO is this really how South Korean "fascists" rationalize the fact that SK always has been and always will be an American client/puppet state? I mean, fuck; even LatAm chuds admit that their "based" dictators were CIA assets.
Rhee literally fled to Hawaii after he was kicked out by the students lol, while the CIA explicitly backed Hwan and endorsed suppressing the Gwangju Uprising when it looked like the SK regime was about to fall.
What happened, you got cucked by a Kim?
Are you fucking serious lmao, I'm a White American with roots in the Deep South. If you were really an American you'd know that nobody, and I mean NOBODY here ever gets cucked by Korean men lol. You've gotta be fresh off the boat lol.
Is CIA an agent of globohomo poz that weakens nations or do they strengthen nations by backing their nationalists?
They do anything that they believe will benefit themselves. They wanted Yoon in because he was a hawk against Russia and China and wanted to give weapons to the Ukies, while the Democrats and moderates in the PPP wanted nothing to do with that. It's also why they want Marcos redux in the Philippines, because he's giving us back Subic Bay.
But its general population' moral immune system hasn't collapsed like yours or Japan's
Your "moral immune system" is a Western Christian one that's courtesy of American missionaries that came in during the Japanese colonial period and then dominated your cunt after the Korean War. Thank us for that if that's what you're trying to say.
prefer taiwan
My Great Grandpa fought alongside KMT bros in Burma and China during WWII in the CBI, something you wouldn't understand given your folks were clearly raped and/or killed by Yoshi and his friends.
Also Taiwan is more culturally unique and less globohomo than either Korea or Japan while they are WAY more chill online than either of you autists.
I'm sorry
Hwang is on trial in Korea over whether or not the videos he filmed of himself having sex with his Korean ex-girlfriends were consensual, what are you talking about?
And the government searched all the bathrooms and found none, so is it because there are few reports? Or is the real problem that men's taxes are being spent on conspiracy theories by paranoid k-foids?
neither of them are westernized at best they have massive inferiority complex slave herd mentality
Sex with korean woman vs sex with japanese woman, go
Assume they're both of similar attractiveness, I'm talking personality and passion in bed
Japs because their language sounds nicer.
wasn't me lmao
holy shit, a literal amerimutt talking about >cyber punk and >lack of soul LMAO!!
It's Confucian+Christian+conscription instilling some semblance of rite of passage. Thank you, for what- spreading porn and sodomy and spiritual death all over the world?
Who hurt you big guy? this seems too personal for you to just be a weeb reaction.
It was you? Yeah you better be sorry.
Liar, I stick my willy in a Korean bum and she howls "AIIEEEEE RIGHT IN ME KIMCHI"
kys jew. circumcision is mutilation
a literal amerimutt talking about cyber punk and lack of soul
I say things like this because I know my country is dead and has been since long before I was born. I deeply appreciate and respect the few places, peoples, traditions, and cultures that haven't been ruined by globohomo (always courtesy of post-1968 America or the Soviets/Russia); be they the Taliban or the Holy Roman Empire of Liechtenstein.
Thank you, for what- spreading porn and sodomy and spiritual death all over the world?
Again, the Christianity you trumpet from the hills didn't exist in Korea before American missionaries arrived you retard. You guys routinely killed the few Christians around until the Japs took you over and let us and the Frogs do mission stuff over there. Yonsei was literally founded by an American missionary in 1915.
Who hurt you big guy?
Everyone, everything, and well before I was born.
Good goy mutilate your child at birth and pay for it
Fair, but I smuggle my meat into a Jap kuchi and she howls "SUGOIII AMERICA-SAMA I WETTER STICKIER THAN NATTO"
Again, the Christianity you trumpet from the hills didn't exist in Korea before American missionaries arrived you retard
who the fuck is denying that retard? I already said it's def part of the immune system. also, a big part is the remaining confucian fabric and being a blood-civ for 1000+ years. christianity is a big part but not all of it. you want to take credit for our immune system cause what, you feel guilty for being the golem of globohomo and be part of the solution?
then why do you seethe so much over the fact that korea has a fighting chance to oust globohomo in the coming decades? far more so (as it appears now) than japan lmao. clearly something about korea makes you seethe, real talk- what happened? if you're upset that it seems to have imported globohomo poz, shouldnt you be happy that underneath the top-down imposed poz, it has been more or less resisted on a spiritual level and is actually on a path to reject it? or are you that shamed that it's holding a mirror to your own country's failure.
Plan Everready was a coup plan developed by the United States to oust Syngman Rhee
nytimes.com
history.state.gov
I admit I haven't read the original English, so I'll link to the Korean wikis that I have
namu.wiki
en.namu.wiki
ko.wikipedia.org
youtu.be
And Kim Jae-gyu, the man who assassinated Park, met with the head of the CIA's South Korean station a few days before the assassination and met with the U.S. ambassador on the day of the assassination, and one of the five reasons he gave for the assassination was to improve relations with the U.S., which were the worst in history.
Direct U.S. involvement is the realm of conspiracy theories, but the U.S. ambassador to South Korea at the time told Kim Jae-gyu that a peaceful transition of power was necessary, and in his memoirs, he wrote that the U.S. contributed to Park's assassination, albeit unintentionally.