I’m fucking balding and aging like shit at 21 despite not doing drugs, working out and eating healthy...

Same. Take fin and min, use tretinoin, use sunscreen. Eat healthy, cut out sugars and processed food, drink lots of water and look into supplements.

it's genetics

ofc but if you have the bad genetics fapping will make your DHT skyrocket. (DHT is the same hormone that cause sperm production and hair loss)

fapping will make your DHT skyrocket.

ive never heard this before? keeps.com seems to think it doesnt but maybe theres new research?

yeah but we can tell hes clearly not east asian

But you're still an American. Can get pussy of any kind, color, flavor or age (+18)

I researched on myself.

t.40yo

Drink more water

That's what happens when you're a ytoid. You age like milk. Thankfully I have some native genes to protect me so I still look quite young

Your hairline looks fine, it's just mature

it's just genetics
I was an addict for a decade, have been smoking a pack a day for about as long, fap 2-4 times a day and look fine

finasteride and minoxidil or just accept it

cause it's retarded broscience

diet has nothing to do androgenic alopecia, people have been bald for millennia no matter what they ate

I'm afraid to use finasteride, but I don't want to go bald.

it's pure fearmongering, your dick only falls off if you're a low t soiboi
t.no side effect haver

working out

found your problem

you're not native

He's talking bullshit. I'm a turbogooner and I have the exact same hair and physique as my grandfather who didn't go bald. Generally your hair is supposed to be similar to the males on your mother's side of the family so no healthy lifestyle hacks can help it's purely genetics. I should worry more about the fact that my grandfather died in his 50s from kidney failure

I have 1.5 norwood since high school.

I've been on fin for a decade and have mild ED but I might have had it before I don't remember very well. I definitely didn't in middle school or early hs. I also wank at least once a day so it could be a porn thing

It's the porn, happens to me too. Just lay off of that shit for a little bit and it will go back to normal. I randomly get rock hard erections and go super horny after just two days of not touching myself, and when I goon every day my dick is all floppy and small

send mandrax

whether or not you go bald is genetic but the time of onset and rate of progression do seem to be environmentally sensitive

Just hop on fin, even the US president is on it

less stress

better food

don't wash your hair everyday

don't use shampoos

use natural soap to wash your hair

norwood status?

my father

no reaper, sparse white hair at 67

paternal grandfather

was the same as my father

maternal grandfather

got the reap at 30

On the scale of 1 to 10, how over is it?

put oil in your hair

lifting makes you age like shit

Just go to barber and get a good modern cut bro. Take care of your skin, go to the gym and eat proper foods. Stop whining when there are solutions to your problems.

Just turned 40, having the same issue. Hang in there boyo.

It’s 100% becuse you don’t take care of yourself and refuse to get a normal hair cut. You don’t look 30, you look like a man in his early 20s who will not look after himself at all.

working out

spikes testosterone which can kick start balding

used to be attractive

cope

not a mutt, i'm all white

which would explain aging like shit and balding, both are regular features of whites

mulatto aging better

you'd be hard pressed to find a race that ages worse on average, asians look 20 until they're 60, black don't crack, maybe some strains of brown but I suspect a lot of them have white mixed in.
We are destined to be draugrs, stop running from it.

NW2 since 19-20, just like my younger brother and maternal grandpa (he never progressed), dad's a NW1 diffuse thinner at 56

Finasteride. Now.

balding

Genetics, just accept it.

eating healthy

In the USA? I doubt it

not doing drugs

That's the bare minimum, you shouldnt drink much (especially getting wasted) and smoke too

asians look 20 until they're 60, black don't crack

This is retarded bullshit

opinion on temple regrowth NW2->1 without HT?

You're basically a 21 year old kid with a neglected physical appearance. I doubt you eat healthy and work out. your hair is thin, dry and messy, doesn't fit you one bit. You look ugly as fuck, too.

t. woman

internet has exposed whites as ugly

YWNBAW

Mbl is that you?

you dont even have miniaturized hairs left in the recessed area, this may just be your mature hairline, i'd still take whatever youre taking just to be safe. add in weekly microneedling if you want to be extra safe.

Possible with microneedling and Duoxidil.

cam up bitch

No way is this fat mutt bitch critiquing other people's appearances

I already apply minoxidil over retinal in the evening, any point in getting Duoxidil instead especially if I'm intending to switch to tretinoin at one point?
yeah it's mature hairline but autists keep saying they don't exist so I stopped referring to it as such
I'm on 0.25mg fin + min 1mg + 5% 1x/day, hyperresponder to min btw

get this haircut anon, embrace the norwood

I have a friend who is a similar age, he’s mixed mulatto guy but he still looks like he could be 16

Gross. You might be balding, but the fact that you look mature means that you mog him.

I use Tretinoin, tazarotene and trifaroten and non work for hairgrowth, at least for me although I keep using them. Microneedling actually works but the micro scarring also makes hair transplants impossible on the future. Adapalene, although weak af, has a special molecule to go into the hair follicle you can read up upon. Unfortunately the strong forte duo one with higher % also contains some anti acne stuff that’s bad for you if you don’t have acne. Btw do you apply the retinal before or after minoxidil?

although I keep using them

terrible is the nature of the incel disease

Microneedling actually works but the micro scarring also makes hair transplants impossible on the future.

interesting, I guess I'll give min+fin at least 6 months before I decide whether to do it

Adapalene, although weak af, has a special molecule to go into the hair follicle you can read up upon

interesting

Btw do you apply the retinal before or after minoxidil?

retinal before and I give it a minute or two to get absorbed

topical minox with dermarolling saved my crown really quick but barely helped my temples. added dutasteride a few days ago and wonder how well it'll work.

honestly i don't even care that much if i bald at this point but i'm just obsessed with figuring out what the hell causes such an obvious problem plaguing so many men, it leads me to deeper philosophical ideas about the relationship between mind, soul and body. your macros are healthy, you have all your vitamins, you work out intelligently, you're still losing hair, it's primarily a non-physical thing.

That anon is a different woman.
Please calm down.

There are many reasons for balding -

1. Diet
2. Stress
3. Genetics
4. Using harsh chemical products

Most of time I have noticed the reason is STRESS. Are you suffering from stress or depression lately? Is your diet healthy? Is there a pattern of balding in any of your parents side? Look out for these indicators. You're most likely find the reason behind balding.

Good luck.

terrible is the nature of the incel disease

Yup, I regret not taking finasteride earlier and instead told myself it’s not getting worse or stop. Maintaining is always easier than regrowing.

interesting, I guess I'll give min+fin at least 6 months before I decide whether to do it

Yeah, again it’s cursed because if you micro needle and it doesn’t work you ruined your skin for hair transplant while hair transplants always look unnatural. My doc also told me I should wait 1 year with fin before hopping on dut.

retinal before and I give it a minute or two to get absorbed

I would recommend you to apply retinal either at morning or night and then let it seep through for 8 hours at least. Retinoids have a higher molecular weight than minoxidil so if you apply them first the minoxidil can’t penetrate.

dut actually has less chance of giving you side effects than fin, you may be better off instantly getting on dut 0.5mg a day

I know but getting it in Germany is hard because it’s not approved for hairloss like fin. That’s why my derm only wants to prescribe it to me after a year.

it's just biochemistry, don't obsess over it

while hair transplants always look unnatural

idk man the Koreans are pretty good... I would never go to a hair mill

I would recommend you to apply retinal either at morning or night and then let it seep through for 8 hours at least. Retinoids have a higher molecular weight than minoxidil so if you apply them first the minoxidil can’t penetrate.

very interesting, but isn't it not recommended to apply retinoids during daytime? I like the evening routine because I'm always running late for work

Is it over? I'm 24 and my hairline has been like this for like 4 years now. It looks bad but I don't know how to tell if I'm balding for sure. Normally I just style my hair to cover my entire forehead

Mature

It's genuinely not a big deal, im not baiting or punching down on you or giving you backhanded statements. It's literally nothing
There is many ways to solve it and if you dont want to do the sacrifices it take go have your hair back you're just stressing yourself more and accelerating it by crying
Picrel me once i hit very visible balding

nije idealno
neistina

Tan in the sun

Lol

I was Norwood 7 in highschool

RIP, I guess i'll enjoy it while it lasts

Yeah true, Koreans are actually good.

very interesting, but isn't it not recommended to apply retinoids during daytime? I like the evening routine because I'm always running late for work

Yes, kinda. Retinoids make you more susceptible to sunlight but the reason why most people don’t use them is because tretinoin specifically ain’t photostable, meaning the ingredients break down because of sun exposure. However tazarotene, trifaroten and adapalene are all photo stable and can be used during daytime but you should avoid sun as much as possible even if you look like a ghost.

ma samo naruci tablete i ne zamaraj se nakon tog, bar znas da najvjerovatnije nebude islo dalje

nigga just start take fin.

if you're THAT afraid of it, titrate it: take a 1mg pill, take quarter of it every day for a week or two, and increase it by .25mg every week.

Evo ja ti predlazem da se roknes

but you should avoid sun as much as possible even if you look like a ghost

I actually refuse to have this BDD or whatever it is affect my day-to-day life... I lift and fap and smoke a pack a day and blaze it 420 erryday and am exposed to direct sunlight for at least an hour daily, but I'm gonna look the best I can while doing all that

I think this style of Norwood can be very attractive, be thankful you aren’t balding from the top like a monk.

Post face.

there is a special kind of mud that only grows in the bogs of southern-tavastia region that the viking used to apply to their hair. it might help you.

bullshit

everything is about genetics

True I'm thankful for that at least. The top of my head is full of hair and it's very thick. It would be pretty hard to style otherwise. If I find a bald spot forming there I'll just shave it all off fuck it. But for now I'm still coping

Post hairline.

Such a cop out.

Genetics is fake soi-ence, genes don't really exist. It's like evolution, just a theory.

Creep creep weirdo stalker creep

just a theory

A GAME THEORY

By the way what stage of Norwood would this be? 3?

Take your clothes off

Mine got like 2/3rds this bad and then stopped cold around 25. I’m 33 and haven’t lost any more hair.

I’d say if you’ve been ok for 4+ years you might be in the clear.

It's fine. You probably just have a sharp widows peak

this is the forest finn wisdom he has been seeking