Raped by turks and forced to convert to islam

Don't call arabs monkeys you subhuman goblin retard.
Your letters were stolen from persians and arabs,half your language is arabic,your religion is arabic.
The only noble prize winner in turkey is an arab
You are a peasant anatolian farmer with nonidentity that got his great grandmother raped by a mongol
I wipe my ass with you,come and change my oil and make me a shawarma bitch

but they're such a small minority so it's irrelevant
also these Copts dropped their original religion to replace it with Christainity first, so that's pretty much the same like adopting islam

why would anyone think that spreading islam is a good thing lol
if anything, turks should be praised for not enforcing it strictly, that's why the balkans are still doing fine comparing to the middle east

Interesting how greeks, BULGars, romanians, serbs and croat kept their culture and religion

unlike the other spineless cucks

My point is that Copts are Christian Egyptians, the jump from paganism to Christianity didn't completely sever the ties to the past, whilst modern day Egyptians are Arab Muslims that believe they migrated from the Hejaz into Egypt, totally severing their ties with the past

The romans treated the egyptians like shit.
When the arabs fame they returned their patriarch from exile,we didn't treat them badly,still they got converted in 100s of years so it was slow and gradual.
I think the levant was majority christian till the 1200s o algo
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_of_Alexandria

In other words a bunch of savages who eradicated local culture and identity vs a bunch of conquerors who showed mercy and took money instead. Lebanon, tunisia, egypt all great countries ruined by arabism. Persia too, great civilization ruined by islam. Arabs are at fault

Ummayads failed at converting the region decisevely lol, islamization was a longer process than people think

totally severing their ties with the past

i wouldn't say so, muslim egyptians unironically think 'we wuz pharaos' etc

Bodied that freak
He's literally shitting and pissing himself rn whilst listening to the Adhan in the language of your people

It's better than whatever you practice.
Protestants are right about you,many of your saints were idols pre the church you mixed european paganisim with judiasim and celebrate yule

just because no one inforced them

I am Lithuanian

That's just modern larping
Like Nassim Taleb thinking he's Phoenician

he implies that im catholic

all religions are opium of the masses

no one was forced to convert to islam by us
we had anatolia for a literal milennia older than the history of your country and the balkans for 500 years
what makes you guys even think ottomans tried to force anything on anyone when all the ethnicities that were there before the ottomans are still there after the ottomans
even if you had 0 history knowledge you could come up to the right conclusion with basic logic

False,persia blossomed under islam,avicenna etc.
Ask a persian to name any pre islamic scientists and he wont have an answer.

Savages destroyed them

The levant was conquered a 1000 times before,they mogged you in the middle ages manolo

Imagine how the balkans would look if the Ottomans valued education and forced mandatory school and established their own language as the official one in all capacities
To my understanding Egyptians were mostly ethnically replaced, maybe that explains the seemingly quick conversion

Tf is your obsession with Lithuania pajeet?

Sometimes cancers metastasizes.

umayyads murdered hundreds of thousands of turkic people in central asia for the sake of spreading islam
converting my ass

To my understanding Egyptians were mostly ethnically replaced,

False,how can a small population in a desert that cant support people replace the most fertile land in the world

To my understanding Egyptians were mostly ethnically replaced, maybe that explains the seemingly quick conversion

No they're still the same as in like 2000BC~, only with 5-15% Sub-saharan admixture (Arab Slave trade). There are plenty of genetics studies on this already.

they did try to steer the country in that direction when they noticed that was what they were supposed to do
but by that point ottomans were already a poor country indebted to western powers

i wish i were born in a muslim country and had 4 tradwives
turks owe this to me for not converting my country

you're the sole reason why whole middle east and northern africa is such a shithole right now
egpytians were building pyramides, mesopotamians were watching the sky with telescopes 5000 years ago while you were drinking camel piss in your desert
but suddenly some pedophile schizo came up and thought it would be a good idea to make everyone sand monkeys like yourselves

they only managed to convert 3 countries

yeah because there was already a strong monotheistic presence there, in asia they had animism and shamans and shit. if ottomans tried pushing islam an inch more they would have even more revolts than they did

Ottomans valued education

They were a retarded feudal empire that completely and utterly failed in the face of modern nationalism
The Young Turks were literally integrationist revolutionaries that got support from revolutionary groups from the Balkan and Armenia and they still failed

100% muslim to this day including malaysia

Bro, no place where the internet reaches is like this

yeah because there was already a strong monotheistic presence there,

interesting take, some sources say that islamization succeeded in Bosnia because most Bosnians were bogomils who were actually dualistic in their faith, so not fully monotheist

Diluting your religion with ancestral paganism is based and everyone with an actual culture does it

young turks had many different fractions, retard. it's not just a single ideological group
while many armenian greek or other ethnic minority intellectuals collaborated with western powers and established their own country, turkish revolutionists created the turkish state

i'd rather have 500 years of Turkish yoke if also great Turkish culture, cuisine and music followed that

this could be our national music style...VGH
youtube.com/watch?v=AQ97OXdgWTA

Nice scapegoat,keep blaming your problems on others
The levant,nafrica and spain were christian,my tribe we half christians.
Persia had a semi monotheistic Zoroastrianism,sind were hindus.
In fact ,i think having a monotheistic religion helps in conversions

Jan III Sobieski must be rolling in his grave rn

North africa was very minority christian, even judaism was more prevalent but they both never were more popular than animism/polytheism or islam

You unironically know less about Turkish history than most Arabs or Balkanites

Insane how Egyptians are more nigga now than in ancient times despite literally being ruled by Nubians at one point

Slavery really is the world's greatest evil (you end up having sex with your slaves)

But honestly, what are the achievements of (your) form of Islam besides killing more Muslims than American bombs? Name some Wahhabi scientists, philosophers, historical empires, really anything of civilizational value.

wipe your tears

man shut the fuck up you don't know anything
stop posting in threads related to us like you know anything about us at all

because Turks tried to convert high IQ white people, that doesn't work, SEAmonkeys are easy to influence due to their low IQ

What?

If the Young Turks weren't Ottomanists, what did Ataturk ideologically rebel against?

Albanians are pretty much irreligious. Maybe they count as muslim, but they're pretty much the Czech Republic of islam.
Kosovo is like 90% Albanian so I assume it's the same.
Dunno about Bośnia.

you don't even know what you talking about
you're either trying to ragebait or just straight up a retard
idk

You were raped by meds and forced to convert to Christianity.

he just didn't expect Polish women to like Turkish bois that much

tried to convert high IQ white people, that doesn't work

What?

he rebelled against ottomans who were collaborating with the invading allied powers
the young turks is what the turkish people who were sent to europe and mainly france to study and come back to help ottomans advance were called

Wahabbisim started in the 1700s.
Nothing,the arabian peninsula doesn't have 1 river in it,its a land for nomads.
You can't make population centres there To reach makkah if you started at the northern most tip of the arabian peninsula it will take 2 months at least on a caravan
so naturally it will lag behind scientifically and culturally.most of the tribes here emigrated to escape this hell.
Now i ask you turk chan what are yours?

Serbs

High IQ

White

82IQ propaganda recitation moment

The turk replies from a euro cunt

Keeeeek can't make this shit up

das rite Mehmet

hmm you remind me of the kebab guy from my local kebab kiosk. Is that you, mustafa?

jesus christ
seriously just go study turkish history if you are so interested
you are a nuisance

bro, you would be doing better together with Turks than you do now, this is true
imagine Turkish investments in Shkupi...

Now i ask you turk chan what are yours?

Middle East without people killing each other 24/7.
Thats a cosmic-level achievement right there.

I'm pretty sure Lithuanian girls love Erasmus Turks too

The majority non-Turkish (Enver - Albanian Talat - Pomak) revolutionary force that installed Mehmed V as Sultan, that put non Muslim Turks in the military for the first time in hostory, weren't actually Ottomanists bro! They were Turkish nationalists just like the Ataturk, the person that rebelled against them!

Turkish investments in Shkupi

Half our malls are built with their money for some reason
We should expropriate it all with no compensation

You were raped by meds

??? Lithuanians are romans. Read about how the roman nobles led by Palemonas arrived to Lithuania and founded a kingdom.

and forced to convert to Christianity

lithuanians converted for political reasons and freebies. Swapped from pagan to christian, but paganism didn't vanish over night and took a few centuries to disappear

You still are bombing kurds to this day.
Dont make me bring up the countless massacres you did on the armenians,maronites assyrians etc and force turkified southern arabs and kurds
If you had those minorities today you'd probably be knee deep in civil war

Post hands. I need to confirm your identity

non-Turkish (Enver - Albanian Talat - Pomak)

lmao. source?

I'm Turkish and my boyfriend is Albanian.

House of Saud MUST start arming the PKK
Destabilize those sbhmns

Balkan history sublimated in one person

ittihat ve terakki
look it up
this is just one of the parties founded by the young turks
they were ottomanists before it was taken over by the guys you are talking about and then it switched to turkish nationalism
enver pasha who you are calling albanian died in central asia fighting against russians together with turkic peoples

and become poor and backwards again?

Saudi Nationalist have a weird superiorty complex with regards to History, they cannot get over the fact Turks were the dominant power from 1500 onwards. They cannot accept powers shift, empries rise and fall.
You don't see this behavior in balkanites, where they do accept they were conquered/vassalized then kicked turks out and now they are free.

To Gulfies the fact that a non gulfie nation was the dominant power is a great insult and this causes massive seethe, as observed by the saudi anon here. You don't see the average serb seething about now conquering Constantinople and controlling the region. Persians, Egyptians, Iraqis, Syrians etc also don't have that. I blame the lazy oilmoney giving them delusions of grandeur.

Abe patuljak glup
Vishe gi imame molovite

Balkans is only wealthier than the eastern part of Turkiye. It's like saying Mexico is on average more developed than Russia and including Siberia into the calculation.

The Adhan is starting bro, listen to the Arabic words, face Makkah and start dua

despite literally being ruled by Nubians at one point

They were small ruling elite dynasty, same way Hungarians are not mongoloids now.

then kicked turks out and now they are free.

Facepalm

sta ti smetaju turski pari ako nemash svoji
balgarin i shiptar nekje ti izgrade takvi visoki oblakoderi kako sada ima vo aerodrom
rechi hvala za turcite

Saudi Nationalist

Not a nationalist and idc for politics much.
I just started slinging shit at you because you called arabs monkeys.
I would have liked the turks if they weren't niggers and treated their subjects like trash with their weird superiority complex despite being culturally inferior to the countries they ruled over.
Sadly turks only gave a shit about kidnapping children,collecting taxes and building up the sultan's harems.they were the strongest,richest country in gayrope and they lagged behind scientifically.
The mamelukes were turks but they werent as subhuman as ottomans

Ittihad ie tarakki

Kek both are arabic words

balgarin i shiptar nekje ti izgrade takvi visoki oblakoderi kako sada ima vo aerodrom

Istina, realno

What is there to facepalm about retard. You gonna compare the anatolian outskirts to balkans where most of the population lives in 3-5 cities?

Poorest parts of the Balkans succumbed to Islam because of taxes.

I do admire arab culture even though im not a musulmanic moon. I think people put their recent biases of islamist retardation into history. Abassids, Umayyads, or 15-18th century Oman are quite interesting nations. They should be proud of them. But try to memoryhole the fact turks were dominant power in modern era (until brits and french pushed them out) is funny.
EU yoke is far better I would say.

some Polish autist has a better idea of how to speak Macedonian than I do

Biggest historical injustice in the Balkans is pic related

In a sane world, even that small red dot would have been cleansed

EU yoke is far better I would say

I'd cut off your head if you said this to me IRL btw

im not a musulmanic moon

Foreskin status?

Patuljko e toa be novpeder glup
Srbin od Varshava

i just speak Serbian without cases + with occasional Russian words because I can be 100% sure the same words exist in Bulgarian and while I'm not sure if Macedonians also technically use them, they surely understand them and they make my text a bit less obviously "Serbian"

I don't apologize for ottoman behavior but all empires treat their subjects like shit. I doubt anyone who conquered constantinople would treat their subjects far better or far worse for that matter. Or maybe they would maybe if Bulgarian Khans conquered constnatinople we would have flying cars and shit. Personaly I think decline of ottoman empire was due to their desire to not emulate Byzantine mistakes.

Byzantine Empire had constant civil wars, many emperors, uppity nobles and foreign merchantile influence. Ottomans recognized this and tried their best to prevent them. They had their own army loyal to one family, they kept minorities in check, they massively centralized authority and prevented the rise of Nikephoroi who acted on their own like some feudal lords. These were excellent decisions if you were farm/loot/slave empire like Romans, but it failed massively when it comes to modernization and industrilization. Observe how quite a lot of modernized industrialized nations had a weak central power, a strong merchantile class and/or nobility. (Britain, France etc) in other words other authorities.
Here Russia is an interesting case, I read somewhere that statead that Russians manage to do modernization better than turks because the russian elites control the factorties and such, meanwhile factories in ottoman empire were almost always controlled by minorities, which caused ottomans to look at them with deep suspicion.
intact, 3 generation atheists
EU was the greatest thing that ever happened to balkmunlar

you started it first by calling us turds then when you get called monkeys you claim not to be nationalist and play the victim lmao
you really are a monkey

EU was the greatest thing that ever happened to ba—ACK

Here's your turk rapebaby bro

you started it first by calling us turds

kek yeah,forgot that i did.

intact, 3 generation atheists

Based. Mutilation should be illegal everywhere

Croats

Because we weren't under Ottoman rule (Croatia proper, Istria, Dalmatian islands) and the parts that were actually stopped being Croatian (Bosnia, Dalmatian interior, Military frontier). It all became either Muslim or Orthodox.
Also keep in mind Judaism and Christian Orthodoxy were official religions in the Ottoman empire. Catholicism wasn't, that's why the geographic center of Croatia is now a big blob of Muslims and Serbs.
If the Ottomans had conquered Croatia we would just be Bosnia and most would emigrate north to Hungary, Austria, Slovenia while the rest would convert.

you're the sole reason why whole middle east and northern africa is such a shithole right now

Pretty sure that's on the ottoman empire for banning the printing press

During the Victorian age all the sultans were liberals.

Those emirs did not convert.

Their mothers-grandmothers were visigothic christian concubines that were kidnapped from north Spain and married the elite muslims in Cordoba and Granada and that is why they look germanic (they were like 60-80% Spanish by DNA after 3-4 generations)

So, elite muslims stole visigoth DNA to appear that way.

Now people understand who the real CHADS in Europe were: Spanish and Portuguese CHADS that fought 700 years against islam.

Another turkish rapebaby

they were like 60-80% Spanish by DNA

That's not how it works

why are they like this?

once you're buckbroken, you try to pull down more people into your misery

So, elite muslims stole visigoth DNA to appear that way.

abdulrahman the second used to wear kohl and dye his blonde beard black because he was ashamed of his roman looks

Bosnians here are the most Aryan Balkaners
Serbs calling them Turkish rapebabies is so funny when they have way swarthier features on average

Yes, it is. Even Abderraman III mother, grandmother, etc were 100% Spanish (kidnapped christian).

And you moroccoans have NOTHING to do with AlAndalus. Most of them were syrians, persians, yemenies, lebanese and a few berebers (pure berebers and not quadroons like 95% of you are now).

Look at AlAndalus muslims...and now compare to your people. NOTHING to do. AlAndalus muslims were white or basically white (or pure caucasoid). You are part black after islam started enslaving blacks after the XII century.

Being European /= Mayo cunt

spiteful schizo drivel to justify being raped by berbers

A islamic.....person....in a islamic burial....

If I go to the jewish cemetery of London and I take a sample of any person inside the jewish cemetery, can I conclude that English people are jewish because I went to a jewish cemetery to sample them?

Yes, there were muslim burials...in Spain, it is obvious. And what do this have to do with the natives?

His genome-wide ancestry showed that he also carried a significant amount – likely more than half – of local Spanish ancestry in his chromosomes. . Moreover, stable isotope analyses suggested that he most likely grew up locally meaning the “Giant’s” Berber ancestry was in fact due to migration from an earlier generation. He therefore belonged to a settled community that had thoroughly intermixed local Spanish and immigrant North African ancestry.

What was especially striking, revealed Professor Martin Richards, Director of the University’s Evolutionary Genomics Research Centre, was that he was very unlike modern people from Valencia, who carry little or none of his Berber genetic heritage.

This can be explained by the changing political situation following the Christian reconquest of Spain as Dr Oteo-Garcia, who recently commenced work at the University of Parma, explained: “The decree of expulsion of Moriscos from the Valencia region, that is, Muslims who had already been forcibly converted to Christianity, was followed by the resettlement by people from further north, who had little North African ancestry, thereby transforming the genetic variation in the region.”

Saaar we were not conquered by berbers and an arab minority it was yemeni??? and persian??? zainichis andalus wuz 100% white hyperborea just look at the last small irrelevant emirates

Noooo dont show me evidence like that

Check again the miniatures of the muslims portrayed in the XII century Cantigas de Santa Maria. They DON´T look like you (moroccoans) AT ALL.

Albania and Bosnia aren't that religious. It's mostly Kosovo that still clings on, but they're becoming just like the rest of Europe

Either you're some kind of middle eastern diaspooroid doing some wicked mental gymnastics to convince us you're white or you're beating around the bush after admitting yourself that andalus rulers had visigoth concubines and naturally the kids would obviously look like their moms to a certain degree
Unless there's some schizo theory about andalus being spaniards converted via telpathy who decided to infight for 700 years

Very problematic picture. Better delete it before tranny janny doed it for you

are native spaniards germanic goths and vandlas,romans or iberian celts.why are you darker than other europeans.i think before the romans phoenicians had a ton of colonies in hispania.why is basque different from every other european language with no direct cousins?
were the orignial inhabitants like basques?
you're weird to me

LOL. What a bunch of stupidities.

Native Spaniards don´t look "darker" than any other. At least not 80% of them. You mistake having dark hair or brown eyes (which 100% of Europeans had 6000 years ago) with being darker.

There are millions of northEuros with a Med appareance (the default in Europe for thousands of years).

These are pure European (or white) looking facial features despite the dark hair and eyes.