Er nyet we do not like a funny friendly man leading us...

er nyet we do not like a funny friendly man leading us, we want a dictator just like the last thousand years of our miserable existence

Why are Russians so STUPID?

Yeltsin and Gorbachev were so fucking based.

cue some retarded nigger going "ackchually he was bad because..."

He was a dictator himself, just a pro-Western and incompetent one. He once sent tanks on his own Parliament.

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He and Yeltsin were bad for russians because they sold the country wealth to Jews creating oligarchy
fuck you nigger

Many people like him, including me. But I'm not sure he was really good politician, too simple minded. But he definitely was soulful and pretty honest.

How can he sell the country to jews when jews have been ruling russia for the last 100 years

Yeltsin gave away the country

Jeltsin was a snake, an incompetent snake, but just as rotten as the rest.
Gorbachev was the only russoid leader that actually had some moral fiber, the fact that they threw him away and replaced him with this diabetic imbecile says volumes.

Putin was marketed as a liberal when he came to power THOUGH

Acshually putin was quite pro-western for a couple of years.

Russia fought only with Chechnya in the 90s because of low oil prices. If oil had been expensive, Yeltsin would not have been much different from Putin

moral fiber

sells his country for Pizza Hut

I know, >tf and all that, but Gorbie was the most spineless and incompetent Soviet leader. Nicholas II was a strongman in comparison.

Definitely this, I wonder what happened to him that he became do anti western. He's nowadays rhetoric is so fucking Soviet union tier (rotten west that wants to ruin Russia etc), meanwhile earlier he seemed to be so sane, he literally claimed that blaming the west of our own problems is just a speculative excuse of corrupted politicians.

I wonder what happened to him

He wanted to be a full part of the big boys club (G8, NATO, EU, etc), but they treated him like a bitch and his manlet nature took the best of him.

its easier to grift with an external enemy

Gorbachev was a retard with a toddlers brain. Yeltsin was smarter but a immoral opportunist who drank his last braincels away. Despite Putin's Napoleon complex I can't see anyone more competent than him comparing the three.

That's what comes in mind first, but I think it's probably more complicated. West wouldn't behave like that unconsciously, they knew what it led for.

He was just completely ineffectual as a leader at a time when they needed a strong leader to prevent Russia turning into another despotic shithole.
He would have been fine, maybe even loved if he led an already well established democracy. But he was the wrong man at the wrong time.

His current clone got the script wrong

Zhirinovsky word to word talked about how and why USSR will collapse and the consequences of it in the future in 1990. Zhirinovsky talked word to word on a Ukrainian talk show in 2008 how, when and why Crimea will be annexed or the prerequisites for a war with Ukraine between Russia. No one listened, he was just called a clown and that's that.

Shut the fuck up, faggot. Gorbachev was real hero who did what had to be done long ago.

I wonder what happened to him that he became do anti western.

He got snubbed by Merkel and was upset about it.

Of course they didn’t. There was this wave of naïveté in the 90s where every Russian thought le angelic West with angels for politicians will finally accept them as friends and rainbows will shine everywhere. Whereas the Americans, in their typical retardation, didn’t understand the difference between the USSR (which they casually called/call Russia despite the 14 other republics) and the Russian Federation and viewed the latter as the former. Basically, two different kinds of retardation led to what we have today where both sides view each other as literally Hitler. Vladimir Posner describes it very well.
youtu.be/8X7Ng75e5gQ

because the 90s were the hardest times, and of course, this is always the ideal time and situation of the country for populists who want to build a dictatorship

VPN off, John

Well everything he did had an opposite effect. Its like claiming a victory on a math test when you answered and "solved" all the equations and got a failing grade but the unintended consequence was that Lil Timmy the nepo baby retard didn't pass due to you lowering the grade so much so the commission decided to give you a honorary passing grade.

Yeah baby! Let's fuck up our country 3 times in a row!

He tried his best given Brezhnev had run the country into the ground. But it was already too late.
I think he was mostly paying lip service to western democracies while the country was still recovering. I don't think given his actions against Georgia he was ever going to be a member of the Globohomo clique, even if we let him in.

he tried his best

Nigger literally got ousted by his inferiors (Yeltsin&Co) and then put under home arrest by the security forces. What kind of a cuck for a leader lets this happen? Imagine if governors of California, New York, and Illinois convened tomorrow and declared that the US is no more and then Trump goes “uhhh sure ok what’s going on guys why didn’t anyone tell me?” That’s the level of utter incompetence we’re talking about.

Entire russian existence is defined in opposition to the west. Russia may be a shithole, but at least it's a superpower (russki mir or "russian world"). This is the copium russians cling to, and according to this view Yeltsin is a traitor who destroyed Russia

He was used and discarded like a condom. His only good policies were ending the cold war and the arms race of the whole decades old madness on the part of the east and west of having enough weapons to kill each other but deciding that they need even more to kill each other twice or thrice, extremely innovative to say the least when past leaders of both blocks just decided to keep doubling down with no dialogue.

He got snubbed by Merkel

What a bitch, he's right about everything then.

Wrong reply but whatever the point stands. Anyway I am not privy to dying over all this geopolitical bullshit, I would be content with getting shot in the head by my adversary but these days they just blow up your guts with a Chinese toy plane and post your dead mug on telegram with shitty electronic music.

Whose fault that Russians were building such a retarded system for almost a century? It couldn't even be fixed so based Gorbachev did the needful. What else he supposed to do? To kiss every lazy ruzzkie commie retard in the ass?

I don't know man dengists fixed an even bigger shithole that was China. The only worse factor out of every single one was that USSR was composed of ten trillion ethnicities.

His experience at the American supermarket was so traumatic that he lost the ability to lead his country

The only worse factor out of every single one was that USSR was composed of ten trillion ethnicities.

America has no problem with that. The Soviets’ mistake was sitting on the fence between Korenizatsiya and Russification. They should have done what America did and turned the USSR into a noviop melting pot where everyone speaks Russian.

Again, too late. It was under Brezhnev that the Red Army became stronger politically and had the power to do this to him. That and his predecessor let the entire state apparatus rot for 20 years.

I’m not talking about the Red Army. I’m talking about the KGB. Look up the August Coup.

so the greatest russian leader of all time Mr. Gorbachev decided not to spill the blood of those trillion ethnicities just to prolong the miserable existence of this God forsaken stillborn shithole of a country. He did a right choice, may he rest in peace in heaven for his deeds.