Heightmogged

So you are telling me the smaller and weaker you are the better modern soldier you will make?
Why not exclusively enlist women and children then?

mutts can only win wars when either english, french or russians have done 90% of the work

been that way ever since their independence when France did 90% of the fighting against the English.

You need a good balance of strength, resilience but also nimbleness and a small frame. You're using an ad hominem because you are inferior to me. I never said being weak was desired, just that being overall muh strong like a caveman made no difference when one uses guns, bombs and traps. You are an actual monkey, it's like you imagine they were sword fighting with the americans. You're too retarded to see how being 7 feet tall is a huge disadvantage in guerilla warfare but being small is amazing because you can hide in tiny spots and harder to hit/spot. Even then, the vietnamese weren't weak. Those guys were hand workers, farmers, that type of people. The americans were city slickers.

We won Vietnam, even had a v-day and a treaty signed.
We left and later the treaty was broken and south vietnam fell.
It would be like if south korea fell today and people claim we lost the korean war.
Or if Europe got conquered by Russia and then people claim we lost the cold war.
Americans should be called Atlanteans because we supposedly are meant to hold up the whole world.

Yeah no shit schizo that was the hole point of my original post, ponting out how viets managed to turn their physical inferiority to their advantage
Would have never thought I would have to spell it out for someone like this

vietnamese is the most information-dense language on earth
look it up

vietnamese are the iq moggers

Man you are fucking retarded. Physical inferiorities and superiorities are relative to the field they're being tested on. The field there was obvious, so that makes them superiorities not inferiorities. I have never met a smart balkaner/eastern european. No fucking shit you're all poor with no significant history, you're all genuine retards.

Was that why you guys had to leave the country so quickly?

you're just chasing resources for your jew lords

Oh it's this meme again. We fucked up all of their infrastructure, killed an entire generation of their men 20:1, kneecapped their economy which still hasn't recovered, parts of the jungle are still uninhabitable because of AO, and we slowly left over a period of several months because shitlibs wouldn't stop screeching about dead zipperheads. But yeah sure we "lost."

>IQ mogged

I disagree

God stands with the just.

if they let us live ...we win!

pathetic vietcope

There is no need to be upset at historical facts. You lost. You gave up. The reasons are unimportant.

Other guy pointed out we didn't lose officially either. Dunno what insane metric you would consider a victory.

We lost because the war was fundamentally pointless and never should have happened. We defended a series of undemocratic regimes that were only marginally better than the north. The entire episode could’ve been avoided by supporting Vietnamese nationalism and turning them to our side from the beginning, against both the soviets and the French.

War against firstie cunt

Take over their capital and you win

War against thirdie cunt

Have to take over every middle of nowhere village because insurgents will keep fighting to remain dirt poor farmers

I mean back then vietnam was very poor, 8/10 pipo would be malnourished peasants so I doubt they could sustain a high national iq.

Still got independence despite facing overwhelmingly superior firepower.

I don't know. Maybe retreating your own soldiers before the enemy surrenders is considered a victory in your parts of the world. It's not over here.
The Vietcong achieved its goal of conquering the country and toppling the government. You couldn't stop them.
By what insane metric is turning your tail and running "not losing"?

b-but we killed a lot of people

Yes, so did Nazi Germany back during World War 2. But you don't see any germans claiming them running from Stalingrad was actually not a loss

Point is that we kicked the everloving shit out of them and effectively destroyed their whole ass country. We didn't get some dumb papers signed who gives a shit, Vietnam is irreperably fucked to this day. Only some fucking Anon Babble loser would say we lost that fight.

We were already out. It was literally the embassy leaving the country.

Good posts surprisingly from a french flag

20:1

Imagine bragging about killing civilians and classifying them as "soldiers" to boost k/d ratios. Sociopathic shit.

kneecapped their economy

You're one of those "GDP" posters aren't you, lmao

still uninhabitable because of AO

You eat more toxic shit than AO on a daily basis, you're fucking american

You slowly left because you were losing the strategic war and it was becoming evidence that you wouldn't reach your end goals.

Natives being the masters of their own destiny is a pretty huge victory. Look at the talibans.

Must have been because you won so thoroughly.

Street shitting muhammad

Who asked you, you fucking idiot frog?

The us

put no boots on the ground in NV

supported a few families with a wierd foreign religion as the elite of SV

let jews seed discord at home

Embassies leaving after an invasion is standard procedure. You hear about it whenever there is conflict that such and such embassy left.

A doctor was paid by your parents to mutilate you at birth and you've been constantly seething ever since like the vast majority of americans alive.

inb4 I'm le uncut

More than 90% of white americans are circumcised, and most of the uncircumcised were the poor ones.

>

resilience

Don't bother. It's a euroid. He would argue that the sun isn't hot before he ever admitted he's wrong. Smug fuckers.

If you win your embassy usually stays. After all, it would be pretty dumb to drop diplomatic connections to a region you just conquered.

you overanalyzed it. the vietnamese were in every way weaker and have less intelligence especially combat wise. not to mention how poorly they were armed.

the reason they won is because they had willpower, were ruthless and were on home turf.

Amazing contribution to the thread as usual from new world flags.

they reason they """won""" is because it was an unpopular war to begin with and we decided to go kill other shitskins instead

>put no boots on the ground in NV

The Truman doctrine dictated not to invade up to a bordering communist power because it would scare them and make them sperg. It's the reason North Korea still exists and why MacArthur wanted tactical nukes to be used on the border of North Korea and China to deter Chinese advancement into the Korean peninsula if NK was taken.
Sorry but war should be discussed only by countries who's last war didn't involve horse cavalry.

well thats partly true but i hate apologist arguments like that because im used to hearing over and over how serbia didnt lose any wars in the past 20 years because the country was called differently and then they pulled out and we actually just defeated some leftover peasants who just happen to be serbian militants but not really, same with kosovo and bosnia because AKSHUALLY they won their impoverished hellhole federative state with godawful terms or something.

you could have just nuked vietnam and korea and won instantly lmao, but then again, thats not what happened is it.

30 years my bad*

it would be pretty dumb to drop diplomatic connections to a region you just conquered.

We didn't conquer south vietnam. I'm not sure you know what the war was about.

Yeah, and you lost both the Korean and Vietnam war. Mabye that was the point all along, but you had no chance of winning either

retarded make a wish kid with fatal butt cancer makes a wish to fight mike tyson

tyson has a nigga moment and beats the cancer kid to death

to honor his memory the ref declares the dead kid the winner of the bout

suddenly a special russian bomb goes off that lowers everyones iq by 40 points

people still verbally capable start unironically talking about "the time that eight year old with cancer beat up mike tyson"

that's this thread.

most of vietcong kia's were peasants and civilians reported as guerillas

t. Nguyen making pho for a living in France

if you fail at your political objectives you win

The war was about communism conquering Vietnam, and they succeeded at that, retard.

how serbia didnt lose any wars in the past 20 years because the country was called differently and then they pulled out and we actually just defeated some leftover peasants who just happen to be serbian militants

Serbia never directly participated in the wars in Croatia and Bosnia. Everyone acknowledges this and you would have to be trolling or an idiot to claim otherwise.

>tyson has a nigga moment and beats the cancer kid to death

u should read some memorials from american veterans and how they are cyring about nam experience :))))))))) mothrerfucker

who cares if the fifty surviving vietnamese and three goats left alive become pinkos, what are they gonna do

If Korea stands but we some how lost it equally to Vietnam then at what reasonable honest standard do you have for a win?
This is just thirdie euroflag keyboard bait at this point. You have no conception of war or power. It actually is all a game to you.
This is because you're either a decadent EuroPeon whose country hasn't been a power in a millenia or just third world invasive species of fauna sock puppeting a euro flag.

Serbia never directly participated in the wars in Croatia and Bosnia.

Bruh wtf why would Serbia give up so much territory without even putting up a fight??

its true, serbs lost, serbia the country did not exist until 2006

So why did you go in if you didn't care?

because before we went in there were more than fifty viets and three goats and they had weapons. starting to think i should learn russian if i want to communicate with half the flags on int in the future

Wasting money and people is a loss. We gained nothing for having fought.

Nta but strawman fallacy.
You can care about something until it eventually depreciates in value and then it makes sense not to care about it anymore.
Like agent orange still fucks up Vietnamese like a biblical curse, to the 3rd and 4th generation. Not really worth having a country there anymore.

France lost to Vietnam aswell
The English and Russian lost to Afghanistan aswell