Asking agakn because didn't get much of an answer...

Asking agakn because didn't get much of an answer. What basis does the angry orange have for his claims that american trade with the EU is currently unfair and that american companies and products are treated unfairly?
I have seen

They don't buy our cars

Which is a matter of taste on consumer end and not inherently indicative of unfair practices

They sue american tech companies when they break EU laws

Which speaks for itself. Everyone operating within the EU has to obey those laws.

So can someone more knowledgable enlighten me?

Which is a matter of taste on consumer end and not inherently indicative of unfair practices

Europe has always levied a blank 10% tariff against American cars as part of the EU Common External Tariff. The entire EU is built on protectionism, which is why it’s so ridiculous that Europe is screaming about America doing the same.

eu laws can be unfair

Does his wife say thank you saar?

Americans are retarded and spoiled "people". They profited massively from globalization by moving up the value chain and offshoring manufacturing but now they are still throwing a temper tantrum because they can't have 1960 tier economy when they also dominated manufacturing since everyone else was either bombed to shit or busy starving in some third world shithole.
There is also the issue that if you're gearing up for ww3 with China (because they can't cope with another country being able to compete) you need to set up production chains inside your country

Against a 2.5 on eu which is a difference to be sure. Yet according to JP morgan the pre orange tariffs were -overall- leveled out aboard products and services.

They profited massively from globalization

Sure, pax americana has been massively beneficial for the us in many ways, not least the dollar.

i like how europe (just few gay countries) try to compare it self with america

Why is snowy nigera talking?

They think they are human simply because fat and retarded Americans fell for their komprat candidate

donald dorf is not russian

They think they are human simply because fat and retarded Americans fell for their komprat candidate

Mykola, to the trench.

our president speaks german b t w, so you can make some things out of it

We see and hear the way you talk about us like vindictive ex gfs and then you wonder why we treat you like shit

A little discussed fact, surely in no part because it is harder to quantify in money or numbers, is that intellectual property laws favour the us a great deal.

Entire continent was sucking your dick and you decided to start a trade war anyways

Vance go to bed.

Entire continent was sucking your dick

Kek no you weren't. Are you honestly going to forget how pro-russia the EU(specifically Germany) was during the first Trump presidency

The big three were selling their cars for a long time here, they just adapted themselves to the customer tastes. Chrysler left in the early 80's and GM pulled the plug the past decade. Ford is doing all right here. You don't expect us to purchase those mastodontic trucks/SUVs of yours, are you? The last time they tried to bring something rational was in the late 90's early 2000's when Chrysler brougth the dogde Neon and Caliber here.

Not an argument rotten fish boi

american car import/production is heavily regulated compared to ours. your emission laws makes diesel cars almost impossible, chicken tax protects your domestic truck production and you cant side import. this has pushed your car production away from what consumers overseas want.
here there is no laws, regulations or extra taxes or tariffs preventing me from importing anything i want from usa, infact there is a whole low of laws and loopholes in place to make it possible and easy, but you dont make anything i want.
so in this case its you who are protectionists.
i highly doubt trump or vance is capable of understanding this.

EU

protectionism

Lol, lmao even
What little protectionism France has the EU does its best to supress

Finance now dominates American economy, which is a house of cards built up by the fact their dollar, their bonds, and their stock market has been the dumping ground of entire world's capital for decades. This was due to their unique position since the 20th century, which their ancestors took advantage of and cultivated. On the manufacturing front, they got the advantage they had only because Europe was in ruins. All American wealth was stolen though unfair trade practices in the first place. Now they think all the wealth they have is because an amerifat who sharts in mart is inherently that much superior, or however the burger is flipped.

So what? America also had million pages of tariffs out the ass. Trump did not invent them.

orange have

a literal redditor

the US wants to pull the EU in a war against Russia for fun

the EU just wants to grill

after years of war the EU finally concedes and sides against Russia

the US pulls the plug and joins Russia instead

greatest ally

So your point is that after your politicians realized how right we were after years of damage that they caused, they are now upset that we won't support them? Is that supposed to some kind of gotcha?

You weren't right, you keep acting hostile and schizophrenic for no reason while the EU just wants to chill

Germany doesn't give a shit about what Russia does, they tried to appease you, you blew up their pipeline and backstabbed them in the end anyway
disgraceful

Clown opinion. The EU deserves everything that's happening to them currently because of their sheer ignorance and false sense of superiority.

because of their sheer ignorance and false sense of superiority

Ok so you admit you're just mad for no reason at all and this is the equivalent of shooting up a kindergarten

Obama already told Europeans they weren’t a priority anymore when Russia annexed Crimea. And what did you guys do? Spend more on welfare for immigrants and boomers instead of defense, while propping up Russia by buying their gas even after Trump heavily opposed the Nord Stream pipelines. You fuckers got reality checked, the US is sick of it.

Ok so you admit

No. No I don't.

Yes and we sided with you. America was also lenient against Russia after Crimea

The US certainly isn't sick of Russia considering they're bending over to them. They're just frustrated and bitter and taking it on their allies for no reason

The argument is on protectionist policies, which I get. But it's not the sole explanation for the trade deficit as you pointed out. American brands are notoriously bad at marketing overseas even ignoring the fact that they are more expensive to produce and often lower quality than Euro brands.

We don't care what Europeans think any more. They've allowed their civilization to be taken over by Jihadist invaders. Until they sort that out, we have zero respect for them. The reality is, Europe is just becoming a satellite continent for Africa and the Middle East. There is no visible assimilation or even an attempt at it. They are essentially told they must care for every foreigner, and many of them go along with it.

Europeans are nothing but the dogs of Muslims. They have established themselves as the ruling class in Europe, they live there, but are not subject to European laws or values, while native Europeans exist to serve them and must placate their every whim. A Muslim can mass murder dozens of Europeans. And what is their instinct? Mourn for their dead brothers and sisters? Desire revenge? Make sure it doesn't happen again by getting them out?

No. When an attack happen, Europeans don't shed tears for the dead. They shed tears thinking about the backlash against Muslims. They cry about how, "oh, this attack will cause the far right to be more popular!". Meanwhile they reassure themselves that we are all human while Muslims laugh at them for being weak spineless cucks and blatantly take advantage of them, proudly sucking Europe dry. It is like they want to go extinct. They hate themselves more than anything else in the world. A continent of useless, self hating pussies who somehow think they are also superior to the rest of the world because they care about "muh human rights" (lel)

dont call the orange guy an orange

Why not?

Who’s buying Russian gas?
Why is most European countries defense spending below 2%?

His orangeness just proves he's of Scandinavian descent doesn't it?

The EU has tons of tariffs on the US, far more than we have on them.
The US has the lowest tariffs of any G20 country.

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How are these issues impacting America in any way? There was no friction with Russia until they started fomenting their pet revolts
they could have just withdrawn their troops to make us pay more for our military

may be true, but in return we barely charge your tech giants for the revenue they generate here

their pet revolts

Literal russian hogwash

The EU is normally their smallest market

I seriously doubt that.

You can seriously doubt that you breathe oxygen. That wouldn't make it true though.

It's their smallest market if you exclude South America

You have a net surplus with Europe after you factor in services you retarded baboon

EU is the largest trade bloc on earth, we have 450 million wealthy consumers. China is cut off from most US software tech. You are most likely talking out of your ass.

must've also been a coincidence that Apple introduced USB C on iPhones just when the EU mandated it.

we have 450 million wealthy consumers

we have 450 million wealthy consumers.

say what you want, it's a fact. I think if Trump pushes the EU hard enough there will be higher taxes on your tech giants. guess you can reciprocate with taxes on Spotify and SAP then.

Russia invaded Crimea over a decade ago m8. Euros did nothing but sat their assses while huffing Russian gas all those years. Now Europe can’t play geopolitics and got told by the White House to fuck off.

there will be higher taxes on your tech giants

I truly hope Europeans are that stupid and naive because it would be hilarious

I think if Trump pushes the EU hard enough there will be higher taxes on your tech giants

We'll threaten to tax European alcohol again which will cause you guys to back down once more

Try answering my post instead of deflecting with mangled inane babble

we will see. Given your posts you are likely a MAGAtard, so I don't expect you to be very bright, but if you try to fuck somebody over you usually aren't treated nice in return.
sure, our alcohol business is as important as your tech companies.

but if you try to fuck somebody over you usually aren't treated nice in return.

the only thing that matters is leverage, and you have none, regardless of how much you delude yourself about how influential europe is

that just means those USAians are simply not millionaires YET

economy is by far our biggest leverage because the EU is actually united when it comes to the economy. You can keep telling yourself the inane Trump lines, doesn't make them come true in reality. Your cult believes you can alienate everyone and nothing will happen in return, it doesn't work like that.

sure, our alcohol business is as important as your tech companies.

The EU seems to think so

muh wealth inequality

next midwit opinion please
kill yourself faggot

kill yourself faggot

calm down sperg.

this article literally came out while I was typing this, kek

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truly amazing how these people will gobble down anything their slave owner sells them, it's like they have no capacity for critical thinking

what does it help you that some jeets in silicine walley is rich af? you will never see any of it.

you probably didn't even open the article. of course the EU is interested in a resolve of the conflict and not engage in full fledged trade war. but if you think you have all leverage and we have none, you are mistaken. seriously you people have such a childish mentality it's incredible.

true

Except I answered your question why Europe got rightfully told to fuck off. Now tell me what did Europe do to contain Russia when Crimea got invaded?

I thought Europe had no leverage and was powerless and useless, what do you expect us to do?

pissed their pants, started to rearm themselfs, started to rearm ukraine, pretty shure uk and poland put in a lot of effort in training and equipping ukraine. if you saw the sorry excuse of an army they had in 2014 and the current state of it its not comparable and there is no way they could have done that all by themselfs.
there was a whole lot of shady deals done semi secretely because lets face it, none wanted to push for the actual war that eventually came anyway.

Europe does not have USA specific tariffs as far as I'm aware. Japan manages to sell cars in Europe.

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Europe had no leverage and was powerless and useless

Exactly, and you have nothing to blame but yourselves.

The EU is content with tending its own little garden, but I guess this makes the rest of the world seethe with primal rage. Whatever, not our problem

What basis does the angry orange have

if you are able in any capacity of critical thought you will find that none of what the current administration of the US has proclaimed has any merit

it's clown world full throttle

Russia and Israel installed Trump as president. You'll have to ask them why he does anything.

But most Americans never really cared. We barely sold anything to europe anyway. They usually make their own shit

Japanese automakers produce cars that Euros are interested in
American automakers mostly produce fat ass pickup trucks that aren't (yet) very popular here, thankfully
Tesla used to sell well before Musk went all out with his autism and the Euro branch of Ford sells well too
in reality most large European countries just chose to close their eyes after the Crimean annexation and war in Donbas because they weren't *willing* to challenge Russia, not because they weren't able.
yes obviously the many European countries aren't as capable with hard power as the US because they aren't speaking with one voice and many have differing interests, but for example with trade sanctions the EU is a serious force whether you want to believe it or not and even with our insufficient militaries we have certain leverage in that regard too, just depends on which weapon systems in particular, but it's not nothing.
I agree insofar that Europe obviously slept about these potential threats tho, the main problem is and was political will to address the problem or rather the lack thereof.
Ukraine and Russia IS our problem. Especially for countries like Denmark and Germany. Your post might make sense if your flag was Portuguese or Greek, not when it's Danish.

We barely sold anything to europe anyway.

you sell a ton here. just because Europe may sell more in the US than vice versa doesn't mean we don't import a ton of US goods and services too.

desu I think he likes to pick on allies because they're more dependent on the USA.

EU good and services trade surplus was €48 billion in 2023; the equivalent of just 3% of the total trade between the EU and the US

You can kind of argue the EU trade is a bit unbalance but that's mainly because European currencies have been weakening compared to the doller (the world reserve currency) which natually makes an econamy export more and import less.
The US has a 25% tariff on light trucks, which makes up 80% of new vehicles sold in America, so effectively a 20% tariff on vehicles over all.

The main reson this isn't helping the USA's trade balance is because the retarded regulations that make light trucks so profitable in the US don't exist in the EU, or pretty much anywhere else, so there's little export potential there.

Russia and Israel installed Trump as president

nah

you fuckwits did and you unequivocally did a massive disservice to world stability. good on ya!

Israel and Russia literally bailed Trump out of jail.
Whatever Trump does you can put right at their feet.

Nord Steam would've been good if Germany had the balls to cut imports
Their main problem was not diversifying more by building nuclear power plans and a few LNG terminals, not the pipeline itself.

American automakers mostly produce fat ass pickup trucks that aren't (yet) very popular here

SUVs are becoming more popular here, but I think hatchbacks and sedans are still the majority.

yeah, same here, but most SUVs here are made by local carmakers, you barely ever see American SUVs here.

Their main problem was not diversifying more by building nuclear power plans and a few LNG terminals, not the pipeline itself.

true
we wouldn't have even had to build nuclear power plants, we would've just had to keep the perfectly working ones running.

yanks just dont make cars anyone wants
its that simple

desu i think the status of cars as a major industry in the future is questionable anyway

but this is all about exploiting magabillies who only value "manufacturing" and not services which are gay and libtarded

that tariff on light trucks isnt somethhing they really pay, combined with the 25 year rule that their car lobby pushed for its effectively a ban on foreign trucks. no dealer will bother to import them, and they are the only ones who can import vehicles newer than 25 years old so no side import.
textbook protectionism.

Tesla was on a good path before Musk let his god complex show too much.

i was talking about this with my dad the other day
like do they not have a board of directors or an equivalent at tesla?
this guy shouldve been forced out ages ago its not a vanity project its a public traded company

never in a million years wouldve expected this to be considered acceptable from an executive in america

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