Bought a juice from Poland with the meme cup and i honestly i don't get what all the whining is about...

Kauft night bei Polen.

better to be pajeet than beanshitting latinx

Juice isn't super healthy tho unless you make it yourself

yeah, right wing attention whores tried to make up the topic about evil EU making things difficult for the people, but ended up looking like a bunch of pizdas, filming themselves having trouble drinking from a plastic bottle

also, banning one time use plastic bags, straws and separate bottle caps greatly reduced water pollution, especially in Baltic sea

also, best Polish juice brand pictured

founded by Germans as Tannenberg

what
it's a small town in Lesser Poland

better to be pajeet than beanshitting latinx

no it isn't
begone

seething shitskin

I don't get why restaurants don't use glass straws instead if the awful paper ones.

as the majority of first burghers came from German lands, the name was soon Germanised as Tannenberg, which gave origin to the current one, used from about the 16th century.

that's you
we don't have any latinxes here, jeet
begone

wtf battle for Grunwald was near Tymbark????

Lesser Poland

You answered yourself, know-how has to come from somewhere

It's not about the "inconvenience". It's an example of big government overreaching and passing bullshit legislation without anyones consent.

shut up fat

food and many other types of products aren't sanctioned though
in Kaliningrad they have lots of polish stuff in every store

checked and seconded
I don't mind the cap design, but I do mind the government coercing manufacturers into involuntarily changing their product design (and their manufacturing processes and logistic chains with it), resulting in increased costs ultimately paid by the consumer (me)
but why bother explaining stuff to dumbass poles

if they have their own pickles' brand, why do they import ours as well?

explain more

you consented to the possibility of such legislation passing when you joined the eea/eu, get bent

you consented

I did not

idk but same goes for almost every product
maybe it's the relic of the past when kaliningrad actually relied on imports from poland so people there got used to buying our stuff

your elected officials did

They didn't have this thing when they were first implemented and the cap would slide everywhere and not stay in place, making it hard to drink/pour from it and it often caused a mess too.

Libertarians deserve gulag

tyranny and violence are good and justified because the statist ritual of elections has been performed

you need to accept mob rule because those who wish to rule over you have a big mob behind them

have some self-respect
ROMANIans deserve to be filtered

elected officials bad

corporations good

nooo the violent tyrannical rulers backed by a mindless mob forcing me to buy plastic bottles with the cap attached!

are you for real right now

ROMANIans

The similarity of the names led some romanian officials to advocate a few years ago that the Roma should simply be called Gypsies

one is voluntary the other one is not, it's not that hard to comprehend
Well the caps (which really aren't that big of an issue, but they are one of the most visible) are but one of the millions of symptoms of the ideologically-based overregulation of the European market. The market is still going and growing (although already at a much slower pace than before) thanks to the relatively immense volume of capital and means of production available in Europe thanks to the course of our historical development, but in the long run it will inevitably become non-competitive and stagnant as hyperregulation and hypertaxation make producing anything here non-profitable compared to the rest of the world.
we are living in the last decades of a prosperous Europe, and that is because every week the EC goes like

b-but this minor regulation/tax no. 123456789 surely won't harm the economy, it's so minor and for a good cause as well! only a schizo who hates the environment would protest it!

it's not about being forced to use some caps or others, it's about being forced to live in a dysfunctional socialist system that robs everyone of their potential wealth and well-being
and yes, producers and consumers are being forced to conform to this bullshit, just because there isn't any actual door-kicking involved doesn't mean it's not a case of violent coercion

glass straws

Imagine it breaking in your mouth and mutilating your lips.
Stainless steel straws on the other hand, classy and harmless.
In restaurants yes.

Oh by the way this attached cap thing has already started reducing the amount of fucking trash found in natural areas by roughly 1/3 since last year. So it was, in fact, a good idea.

the apple and mint one is nice

You seem to assume that any new regulation is automatically a symptom of overregulation and I disagree, the reason for EU regulations is to unify all the countries in a single european market, so in the long term it is a net-gain for everyone included. Caps are silly but they are overall a positive change, so is stuff like GDPR and single charger rules.
Some might make us less competitive in the short term, some might (purposely or not) favor a certain member state, but in the end the point is to be a proper union of states a la USA, and the potential for that to be a meaningful global power is huge.
Doompost all you want but this seems to be the only way forward, it's a "join or die" situation for Europe - the only way to compete is as a single entity, and to create it you need to properly lay the groundwork for it first.

yeah, that's the OG tymbark flavour

but in the long run it will inevitably become non-competitive and stagnant as hyperregulation and hypertaxation make producing anything here non-profitable compared to the rest of the world.

I think it's less about overregulation and more about salaries, nobody here will work in a factory 60 hours per week for $500 per month but in a country like China it's the norm

Honestly i was pretty mid. Not bad, but it felt like someone took proper juice and mixed in a bit of water so there's low concentration of juice

It was*

well it is a fruit drink, they make proper juices too but that's not what you bought

to unify all the countries in a single european market

which could be done simply by dropping the equally meaningless and counterproductive national-level regulations, but instead we duplicate them and create an inflexible and heavily centralized overarching superstructure which truly unites the European market in its institutionalized dysfuncionality
yes the EU succeeded in removing intra-european tariffs, which was a great thing, but that was its last positive accomplisment and there haven't been any more since 2009

are overall a positive change

if they were, the people and the market would act in their spirit without being coerced into doing so

a proper union of states a la USA

and as you can see, American economic efficacy has steadily shrunk as the federal government gained more control over economic policy
also

single charger

that is a prime example of a government-mandated setback
do you not see that this regulation effectively prohibits everyone from ever developing a potentially superior product?

Seems to me we won't come to a consensus because you appear to be strictly against regulation and believe that "the market" will sort itself out, and I just don't believe that to be true.
The institutionalized dysfunctionality in my view stems from some national regulations overriding european ones and vice versa, I'm not advocating for EU to decide on everything that goes on in member states but this will have to be solved one way or another because its not sustainable. Ideally we'd have a european parliament that's more accountable than it is right now, but that's a whole different conversation really, and would inevitably get heated when it touches on subjects like sovereignty etc.

do you not see that this regulation effectively prohibits everyone from ever developing a potentially superior product

how so? standards are good, widely accepted and supported standards are great, and the directive doesn't prohibit development or research afaik
If something objectively superior to usb-c shows up it will be discussed, the regulation isn't set in stone for all eternity

>single charger

that is a prime example of a government-mandated setback

do you not see that this regulation effectively prohibits everyone from ever developing a potentially superior product?

you mean pattenting a bunch of proprietary solutions to force their clients into their own overpriced ecosystem?

it's the 2nd one on the right but i don't trust the scan.