Finnish government announced that the Finnish-Russian border closure gets prolonged by 1.5 years
It was closed in december 2023, so its been a long time. Ruskibros...we are never gonna see each other again
Finnish government announced that the Finnish-Russian border closure gets prolonged by 1.5 years
Do you have any cool fortifications on it? What is the plan if ivans invade?
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just some fences, most of the border isnt fenced, just areas close to the border checks. Only handful of people have crossed the border through the forests and there is a law that can be used if people cross the border in mass outside the border checkpoints which basically gives us the power to remove them from the country and tell them to go to a checkpoint where applications are accepted (which currently are outside of Finnish border)
and basically, you would have to fly or go by a boat to get to Finland and anything like that from Russia isnt happening currently so its de facto impossible to seek asylum from Russia the legal way and if illegal crossings start to happen more systematically then we have a law that allows us to kick those out
Fortifications are mostly natural if any. Rock formations, dense forest on rocky ground, swamps, lakes and rivers
Russia might be an alright neighbor if they didn't chimp out constantly. Would be cool to visit Russia again
Fucking Russians forced our globohomo government to act like retards and impose sanctions worse than in Butthurtia that destroyed our economy.
This
Wasn't the border closed because Russia kept trying to force migrants here though
based
without sanction relief there no reasons to open them anyway.
Sweden sent over 40 000 immigrants to Finland, yet no one had a thought to completely shut down the border to legals
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So you would've supported closing border then too? (whenever this happened)
I ve got a double passport and fly from Constantinople and Belgrade. I don’t depend on you retards opening some borders.
helo finlands
this law isnt meant to stop Russians from coming in or are you Syrian?
I'm from Siberia, we would have never seen each other in out lives even if there were no borders at all in this world
planes exist yo
also trains
That is not my point
we came from Urals and so can you
What are you talking about
I would want to deport them but I wouldn't want to ban all crossings as it would be bad for the economy and as much as I hate swedes I care about the people more
Literally no one can cross the border right now. Not Russians not Finns
its nationalistic Russian who lives outside of Russia
I guess I just don't like immigrants as much as you
Classic case. But why does he think he couldn't come to Finland
Literally no one can cross the border right now. Not Russians not Finns
yes, but the idea of the law isnt to ban Russians which he implied by invoking his citizenship. As long as he gets to the EU or any country that flies to Finland then he can come
Classic case. But why does he think he couldn't come to Finland
since many people outside of Finland saw this law as some sort of "dont let Russians in" thing
Most of immigrants come from your beloved sweden and EU. Finland could sent these immigrants back to Russia but it thinks that Russia is unsafe for them for some retarded reason
It pretty much is. Most of the people crossing Russian border are Russians so it predominantly affects them. Immigrant bullshit is a cover up for the destruction of East Finland because Finland is ruled by a coastal elite who hates them and wants them dead
Hmm. Would be based but it was just to keep the immigrants out that Russia tried to push here.
Because there can't be any other explanation other than that.
Why do you call it my belowed Sweden and EU, I was the one who was in favour of closing the border to them
Well apart from the actual explanation of Russians pushing ayyrabs here
Russia is bringing arabs forcefully
do ylesheeps really believe this?
forcefully
Hmm?
There's no connection between closing border to everyone coming legally and arabs who don't go through the legal process.Banning everyone coming to Russia doesn't do anything to immigrants but harms everyone else in a very significant way. You have to be braindead to believe that it has anything to do with immigrants. You could just as easily deport immigrants and allow legals to go to Russia
It's just interesting that it was done directly after it started happening and it was explicitly said to be the reason. Must be a coincidence
I wonder, if the current goverment know what life in the Eastern Finland is like nowadays.
Government can't lie and abuse certain events to push their agenda while lying about their intended purpose because people wouldn't support it
You complete doofus. Don't reply to me you're clearly too stupid to form any coherent argument
It's a heckin conspiracy instead of the very simple thing it actually is
Sorry we don't want the ayyrabs from Russia.
Desolation and starvation rule the land there. Not sure closing the border had any effect though
otappas nyt ne lääkkeet nafo transu
Start accepting Finno-Ugric refugees you shitcunts, they're dying out because of YOU
saaaaar i'm 1/64 Karelian let me iiiiiiiin
I already explained why it doesn't affect illegals since they're already breaking the law and it only affects those who want to cross legally. There's nothing you can say besides government propaganda and it's sad because majority of population are NPC's like you
Yes but unironically. Oh wait, Finland doesn't even recognise them as a real ethnicity, meaning that there's more Karelians in Russia than in Finland even though 90% of them evacuated to Finland after WWII.
Nah bro
More like a lot of companies went bankrupt here or they fired a lot of workes
The trade with Russia was big here, especially in Kotka and Hamina
But it did stop those coming from Russia, as in the intended and specifically stated purpose. Simple as
Like I said, starvation and desolation. It's very grim. Pic related, it's Kouvola
Karelian means both a tribe of Finns and a tribe of Vepsians which were divided by the Ladoga. It's true that the Vepsian tribe isn't really seen as a minority in Finland, but they were always a very small group compared to Finns in Karelia.
Do you think there were other reasons as to why it could happen or does the ban of Finnish people wanting to go to Russia just scared them off for some reason?
This nigga hates Kymenlaakso...
How rude....
You could come up with a million reasons, it's just not the actual reason it did happen. But it's fun to imagine. My head canon is that it was done to punish Eastern Finland for their transgressions.
They know what they've done
It's insane what drivel kids are taught at Finnish schools. Karelians aren't any more related to Vepsians than Finns are, and they're certainly not a tribe of Finns because they're themselves divided into four tribes.
Nothing wrong has been commited.
We wuzz good boyz
cry about it
Sadly none of this is taught in schools so 99% of Finns have no idea that there exist Finnish Karelians and non-Finnish Karelians.
But you are very wrong. Finnish Karelian means speakers of southeastern dialects of Finnish which differ from the eastern, Vepsian tongues like livvi and lyydi in many ways. Most notable in the absence of the Vepsian sh-sound.
Most of immigrants come from your beloved sweden and EU
You're all retarded nigga. You're clearly talking about border hopping thirdies. The one place they're coming by foot or car is from Russia. All other assylum benificiaries in Finland comes via plane and the finnish foreign embassies. Though you're not actually sincere so idk why i'm explaining this
Vepsian tongues like livvi and lyydi
Absolute drivel. You will be laughed out of the room with such assertions anywhere but in Finland. If the ʃ is a Vepsian sound, then I guess 90% of the world's languages are Vepsian (including nearly every Finnic language)
I'm not sure why you're getting so upset here. It's just a fact. Finnish spoken on the Karelian Isthmus influenced the eastern Ladogan area in a way that maps with geography with more Finnish influence to the west and less to the east. Vepsians are the indigenous people there. Just because Russian propaganda works differently regarding this doesn't erase facts.
Is Wikipedia Russian propaganda? Damn.
Russian Wikipedia might be. Finnish Wikipedia agrees with me.
English Wikipedia. I have no illusions about nationalistic bullshit written in the Finnish Wikipedia.
English Wikipedia doesn't say anything about the historical origin of livvi, although it says ludic is even closer to standard Vepsian.
Are you just a generic Russian keyboard warrior getting upset about Kremlin narrative not being recognized as the ultimate truth, or some kind of ethnolarper fantasykarelian?
English Wikipedia is very conclusive and states it in no uncertain terms that Livvic is just one of the dialects of Karelian with no relation to Vepsian except through the Baltic-Finnic family, so I guess I should be happy that the Kremlin narrative is indeed recognised as the universal truth:
Livvi-Karelian (Alternate names: Liygi, Livvi, Livvikovian, Olonets, Southern Olonetsian, Karelian; Russian: ливвикoвcкoe нapeчиe, romanized: livvikovskoye narechiye) is a supradialect of Karelian, which is a Finnic language of the Uralic family, spoken by Olonets Karelians (self-appellation livvi, livgilaizet), traditionally inhabiting the area between Ladoga and Onega lakes, northward of Svir River.
What I'm getting upset about is that Finns treat Karelians EXACTLY the same as vatniggers treat Ukrainians, except that they have already won, and nobody seems to bat an eye.
At this point I seriously doubt that you're sincerely interested in knowing how the livvi language came to be. You can believe what you want, but the matter of fact is that it's a cline in similarity to Finnish from 1a being the most similar the 2b being the most Vepsian.
What I'm getting upset about is that Finns treat Karelians EXACTLY the same as vatniggers treat Ukrainians
Because they are an utterly tiny ethnic group tucked away in some shit-hole villages they were resettled in, in North Karelia where they marry the local Savonians and either get assimilated or become Kremlin propaganda dispensers.
People don't know about them, because they are just that irrelevant.
Finns from Karelia outnumbered them about 20 to 1.
It's too bad that I can use google image search and confirm that you made up this explanation.
Okay sure. Just remember, almost no one in Finland knows about the existence of these mysterious non-Finnish Karelians who may or may not be Vepsians, while every single Russian seethes at the existence of Ukrainians. The equivalency is blatantly false.