Do blacks in Brazil dominate culture as much as blacks do in the USA?
Do blacks in Brazil dominate culture as much as blacks do in the USA?
Visited Brazil once and there are no blacks. None. Movies aren't real life.
no.
perhaps they dominate football. but they are brown, not black.
blacks in brazil are around the same percentage as in the usa
10% to 15%
There are no blacks in the US if we use Brazilian metrics.
All our blacks would be pardos in Brazil.
Not exactly
most "lightskins" would definitely though, but blacks in brazil are pretty mixed too
Wanna see for yourself? Watch some local news. Blacks and browns are typically segregated from whites in terms of routines and career. While I love the meme, everytime you talk to a brazilian on here, there's a 99% chance that they are or at least look white. That's because blacks and browns either a) have no internet access; b) don't know english at all due to poor education; and c) have internet access and just enough english knowledge to put it in their resumé but not to actually talk to foreigners
Our official metrics for blackness by determination of the Supreme Court in 2017 are
lip thickness
nose width
skin color
hair nappiness
All our blacks are 25% Anglo and 2% Native.
Take one of ours to anywhere in Africa and it's immediately apparent that they're all lightskins.
Our official metric is:
Have at least one black ancestor, yes even if you're only 1/100000000000th
yes, i don't see what's your point though
Blacks in Brazil are mixed too. The only place you can find pure niggas in america is in the caribbean and the guyanas
when i hear americans talk about the one drop rule i don't believe them, but at the same time i've heard you people refer to alexandre dumas père as a black man (he was 1/4 and as french as someone can be)
No way this is what the average American actually believe.
Would you really consider somebody who's only 10% black to be a black person? Answer truthfully.
I know americans don't have any concept of "mixed race" but this is ridiculous
the one drop rule is just white history teachers repeating what they were taught 40 years ago
in america you are black if you look black AND act black. that's how someone like Logic who is half black / half white is being laughed at when he calls himself anything but white, whereas barack obama would be laughed at if he called himself anything but black
Wrong
Probably not because I doubt Brazil pumps money into them like Americans do
when i hear americans talk about the one drop rule i don't believe them
It was literally codified into laws until the 1960s.
There's myriad groups like Creoles, Melungeons, Redbones, Carolina Turks throughout the US who are essentially White but were legally considered colored because they had a few black (or sometimes Native) ancestors.
So your blacks are blacker than our blacks
Logic is considered black, people just give him hazing for mentioning he has black ancestry all the time, like how Lady Gaga gets teased for mentioning she's of Italian descent.
One-drop rule still holds a lot of weight in Americans understanding their ethnic identity.
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Honestly, I think interested black culture will probably fade into the background, especially as culture shifts. There was a similar obsession with Black American culture in the 1970s, and then the 1980s happened and people weren’t as interested. It was still there, but it wasn’t forefront
No, but there is constant shilling from a certain news channel that constantly try to force "black culture" into everyone's throat.
They dominate our cultural exports, they are our representatives to the world
no it's mostly pardos
blacks are the exact same as pardos
so... blacks are just the pardos that turned out darker?
one drop rule
post your nipple then white friend
most brazilians have never seen a non-black
No, it's only in one city that it's like that. Porto Alegre is a southern city and considered very white, you have less of the "average Brazilian" types there. Probably some people there identify as pardos because they don't want to feel too different but would identify as blacks in other places. Rio de Janeiro is more representative of the national picture
We've gone through this neerlandanon... culture.anonbabble.com
browns are typically segregated from whites in terms of routines and career
Maybe in the south, I guess. Elsewhere it's common to see the browns and whites in the same places, specially considering that browns are the majority
I'm upper middle class and the only browns and blacks I see on my daily life are workers who come from elsewhere in the city and then leave
But you are from the south, right. I'm not talking about blacks, I'm talking about browns, specially light browns
it seems like being black in Brazil isn't really tied to culture like it is in the USA, but rather mostly about appearance. Is this correct?
But you are from the south, right
Nae, I'm from good ans old Goiás
uh... isn't it like that everywhere? Race = appearance. The US is a schizo society we shouldn't take them as a rule
in the USA black people are a separate ethnic group, with their own culture (though heavily tied to the average white american culture)
I'm asking if in brazil, black people are an ethnic group, or if being black is solely about appearance, and blacks aren't actually a separate cultural group with its own identity
your state is pardo majority, theoretically you should be seeing them all the time even if your are wealthier. I know southern farmers settled in several places in the center-west, maybe your town has a high number of these people (?)
Goiânia is very segregated when you look at it
Do you think of white culture when you think of Brazil?
blacks aren't actually a separate cultural group with its own identity
of course they aren't separate, we aren't america.
they absolutely are, even more so than the US because favelas in Brazil are like separate countries with their own laws
It's 100% about appearance. In my country we use the word ethnicity as a politically correct substitute for race, so people here would say yeah black is an ethnicity, white is an ethnicity etc. But blacks aren't really an ethnic group if we are considering the actual definition involving culture and group identity instead of just phenotype.
There are some exceptions that are more related to regional culture if anything, like blacks in Rio being associated with samba, blacks in Salvador being associated with African religions and a certain dress (for women), but these things are very folkloric, very region-related and don't happen in most of the country. We don't have a black accent like in the US for example, people just speak in their regional accents.
the only separation here is social, whether you are rich or poor doesn't matter your color
you're delusional, they behead you if you're white in a favela
Most black people live outside of favelas and favelas aren't 100% black either. Favelas are like a micro version of the regional thing I mentioned here
If you are white or pardo in a favela you will act like the blacks there, and contrary to stereotypes most people in favelas don't act all trashy, most of them are very conservative. Even among the trashy types you will find a lot of pardos and the occasional white that lives there for some reason, it's all about region and class.
oh, you never left your bedroom and you have strong opinions about society, got it.
oh that's so strange. I would ask how it even ended up this way, but learning that blacks in brazil are basically just dark pardos answers it.
All this time i thought that blacks in brazil were like blacks in the usa, but in truth these two have basically nothing in common. One is an ethnic group, the other is just appearance. I'm very surprised
They're literally coping. Brazilian culture is 100% dominated by blacks. You just have to ask yourself if you think about Europe when you think about Brazil.
Dude how is it a fair comparison. Blacks are 13% of the USA meanwhile they are over half of Brazil's population
They do now since everything is funded by banks and sketcy NGO. Literally everythiny revolves around race now, and fags, and women, and trannies. Garbage point in history. Im not even racist or a homophobe but Im tired of this
Like 20% of the favelas population is composed of whites
you are a major retard
Blacks are the face of Brazil for foreigners, because of football and because of Rio. That's not a culture. The one thing you have is samba, which indeed is associated with blacks from Rio, but that's it. What else? Tell me. Funk?? It's associated with class and locality, the face of most funk MCs nowadays is pardo, it's not a black thing. Carnaval isn't black either. I'm curious about this "black culture" that dominates Brazil, give me some examples
what we consider black here is like 12% of our population
no, blacks in the US dominate the culture here
Because Brazil is internationally known for being a white country with white culture. Please, stop coping.
but learning that blacks in brazil are basically just dark pardos answers it.
Race in most of Brazil is literally just skin color. The census names it "data about color or race". Maybe hair texture plays a part on your social racial perception too.
you are not a BBC bull, you are pardo!
white women crave his pardo cock because he's half white!
below replacement tiny pinky peckers can only cope so much before they go extinct
What? You're either not even American, or just really ignorant on your own country.
USA had way more racial segregation than Brazil, that resulted in US Blacks being way less mixed than the Blacks in Brazil.
You can definitely find 100% SSA Blacks in America way easier than you can in Brazil.
People think pardo means mixed race, in reality it's just a skin tone
I don't know because I don't watch TV, I don't care about sports, I don't listen to music and I don't check the news, I only read manga, mount my mare and watch tiktok about working out to improve my form. People will say memes and I'll get it like 2 months later because I accidentally saw it on my fyp.
I'm not saying this as a good thing, I'm completely out of touch with the current situation.
where can you find the niggest in brazil? people often say the northeast, is that true?
people often say the northeast, is that true?
when chuds say this they mean the state of Bahia, that is the closest state to them
Favelado culture dominates Brazil, but they are more mixed (pardo) than american blacks
Some parts of the Northeast are pretty much only pardos (mostly iberian+amerindian mestizos), but Salvador in Bahia, and some parts of Maranhão like São Luis have a lot of Black people.
The city of Rio de Janeiro also has very high concentration of blacks in some neighborhoods/favelas.
pardos (mostly iberian+amerindian mestizos)
mestizo is a spanish word meaning mixed race between white-native only. Most pardos have some african ancestry too
I know. I could've used the word "caboclo" but it's the same thing, which are predominant in some parts of the northeast that don't have as much African heritage as in Salvador.
this is not true, though
That doesn't really prove anything since there's no actual large-scale genetic tests done in Brazil, but I'm pretty sure I'm right.
The average person in Rio Grande do Norte for example will have way less African heritage than someone from Bahia. That's why it's kind of misleading when people say the northeast is black. You're probably more likely to find actual black people in a city like Porto Alegre rather than in Natal or Fortaleza.
The truth is our IBGE stats are fucked and dont reflect reality. People say pardos are black but that would mean cities in the amazon are more african than Salvador. Which is very out of touch with reality.
The average person in Rio Grande do Norte for example will have way less African heritage than someone from Bahia. That's why it's kind of misleading when people say the northeast is black. You're probably more likely to find actual black people in a city like Porto Alegre rather than in Natal or Fortaleza.
ok but they do have some black ancestry
8%*