What happens here?
What happens here?
Provides for the majority of the country
im from michigan and whenever i talk to canadians (most are from ontario) they talk about alberta like its some kind of shithole
it's run by oil barons and their brainwashed employees so it's a huge embarrassment for the rest of us
honestly though only a small minority of albertans are retarded, they're just a very loud minority
oil sands (on crown/treaty land btw, so if they separated they would cease to own them) mean they're basically nigga rich with most of the benefits being sucked up by pro-MAGA provincial oligarchs instead of going back to the people
calgary is an american suburb shithole
it's got a lot of beautiful nature in the mountains THOUGH
ive also heard in the southern part of alberta theres a bunch of mormons
You're probably thinking about Bountiful, which is an FLDS community in southern BC. As far as I can tell they are just mountain hillbillies using religion as a justification for keeping harems of teenage girls, not that I have a problem with this. Their community is actually on street view.
The Calgary Stampede is one of the biggest rodeos in the world.
Considering that their opinion is always defeated in federal elections Canada should recreate the state owned oil company and profit from Alberta's production to fund health care and education in all provinces. What 'berty gon do?
oil sands (on crown/treaty land btw, so if they separated they would cease to own them)
This argument is kind of silly, it implies they would respect these treaties. Usually when a province secedes from a country they take the public land inside their borders with them
my abuelito lives there
success breeds jealousy
that would be illegal annexation
usually secession coincides with a brutal civil war
did you know secession is wildly unpopular everywhere in canada, including alberta? obviously not. three hicks and their rich uncle are not going to hold 5 million people and 600000sqkm hostage.
They don't invest their oil money into anything public so it's cool that they're rich and all but the second the bubble pops their endless suburbia is going bankrupt.
The more I learn about Canada the more I agree with Albertans hating the rest of you guys. You remind me of smug Californians/New Yorkers shitting on the Midwest because they aren't smug cosmopolitan dingleberries like you
1. equalization payments are funded using federal revenue, alberta is not paying other provinces
2. alberta doesn't get equalization because their provincial tax rates are low
that would be illegal
Duh. Canadians are mentally coddling themselves with the legal path to secession that is de facto impossible to happen. In a real situation the law would be broken like in 99% of independence cases. It boils down to whether Canada would be willing to fight to protect its integrity
It would be so cool to see Alberta because the 51st state after your new leader runs Canada even deeper into the ground than the last one,
It's worse in Canada. At least in the US the red states have actual influence.
Our recent election was called for the Trudeau/Carney Liberals before any votes were counted west of Ontario.
did you know secession is wildly unpopular everywhere in canada, including alberta? obviously not.
Actually I knew that. I'm just saying "but le piece of paper says you can't do that" is a silly argument when we are talking about secession
you're not going to hear about any current events from your salvadoran prison cell
it's pretty crazy that alberta could have had a robust sovereign wealth fund infinite money glitch like norway but they decided it was more important for the wealthy to pay lower taxes so they just kept taking money out of it
Albertans are Canada's Texans, theyre incredibly wealthy not poor or provincial at all. Other Canadian cities dislike them because they're arrogant rich assholes larping as aggrieved hicks
Same with Texas and Louisiana, virtually infinite oil and its wasted on tax breaks to vacuous business owners and upper middle class wages. Like 20% of Texas doesn't have healthcare coverage
Annoying crybabies who need to get a job.
nah i mean just regular LDS members like in lethbridge ive heard theres a lot
they're trying to privatize healthcare in alberta too
Do not talk about here
I hate it here and I should have never moved to Alberta from Nova Scotia.
They will, and then the only way anyone can afford health insurance there will be to work in oil. It will turn more and more into a blue-collar trap until it becomes its reputation.
This country's voting system is specifically built so that only Ontario and Quebec matter.
can a leaf tell me what happens in Saskatchewan?
That's because the rest of Canada is honestly replaceable.
it's set up so that you need over 50% of the vote, yes. that's how voting works.
People digging for potassium. They are currently a rising star and will probably continue to be for the next 2-3 decades. It makes the rest of us seethe.
i think it's interesting how the american prairies are largely empty but just to the north there's this densely populated region stretching from calgary in the south to edmonton in the north
desu considering how much albertans and other canadians talk about alberta i thought it was a rather populated province but british columbia, quebec and ontario are all more populated and have higher population growth as well. it's not like texas in the us which has a large population and massive growth.
it's set up so that you need over 50% of the vote, yes.
But that didn't happen this year
en.wikipedia.org
do i need to explain what a coalition government is or are you just going to say "ERM I ALREADY KNEW THAT" while ignoring half my post again
The oil is responsible for all that centralization. This leads to poor agriculture (in a fucking prairie) and shit population growth since it makes food very expensive.
why is alberta the only prairie province where natives aren't the majority in the north? is that where the oilworks are located?
It's mostly because their natives are connected to the road network. The rest of native settlements are only accessible by plane or boat.
Midwest
midwest people are walking-stereotype narrowminded insular biggot retards with no individual identities, vibes, or sense of self expression that lose their minds whenever they encounter things too far removed from the norm, but the acceptable allowable range of "normal" is basically nothing. its not about being smug, theyre literally an inferior culture thats perpetually 10-200 years living in the past in comparison to either coast.
watch midwest people lose their minds over this post and play mental gymnastics
Ontario contributes to half of Canada's GDP.
Albertans are retarded faggots who are rich despite squandering the profits of their incredible natural resources. The Heritage Fund's average annual return is like, what, 4%?
Americans in denial.
Trump should send its tanks to liberate them.
You don't really have European style coalitions, you currently have a minority government and the rulling party simply hopes to strike a deal with the NDP and Bloc Quebecois to avoid getting no confidenced. Anyway, even considering this shitty "coalition" that the people didn't ask for, you are coping with the fact that the Canadian head of government is not chosen by the majority of the people. It's the land and not the people that vote in Canada, and like the US they just need a plurality to elect the federal leader. You are just a smug euro-wannabe version of your southern neighbor
*It's the land and not the people that matters in Canada
calgary and edmonton are vancouver-lite
the rest are junkies and boozers on oil fields in towns that are 98% male
Canada needs to be voted by land, not people. If the peoples vote matters, then the entire country is ruled by the border belt and its cities, and the north will have no say on anything.
"actually we should ignore 85% of the population"
golly gee i wonder where you live
"north" doesn't count as an exact answer. My town got bigger in the last decade.
the only chunks on that map above edmonton that aren't green are lumber, mining and oil patches
that goes for all provinces
And it's going to stay that way if you stay holed up in your tiny city apartment. Plenty of work up here.
half of the country lives south of seattle. north is specific enough.
The north is also just as big as the area south of Seattle.
what are you talking about?
The north already has very little say with much fewer MPs. If they want to influence the whole destiny of a country they should try having more people or fuck off to somewhere else more relevant
Perhaps you should fuck off and mind your own business.
A country as big as Canada needs proper regional representation, we can't allow Ontario and Quebec to govern the entire fucking country.
I'm no expert on the US system but I like their senate. Each state gets two seats at the table. Doesn't matter if it's California or Wyoming, two seats. We need something similar in the Canadian government.
I'm talking about area, specifically the ones north and south of Seattle. I don't know why you keep bringing population density. You might be ESL.
I'm talking about area, specifically the ones north and south of Seattle.
yes, you've decided to include the population of the usa in a discussion about canadian elections for some reason. i'll restate more clearly: more than half of canadians live south of seattle.
I don't know why you keep bringing population density. You might be ESL.
because population density is the primary determinant of how many seats a region. i assumed you knew that. i overestimated you.
*bringing up, btw
all of your self-expression ultimately amounts to being gay or mexican or something
The parts of the country where literally everyone lives get the most representation in parliament
No shit
I liked Chicago when I visited.
Why are nonalbertan Canadians so mean to Albertans?
regionalism made sense when it took several weeks to send a message from victoria to ottawa. it does not make sense when you can text the prime minister. liberals in alberta align with liberals in ontario far, far, far more than they align with conservatives in alberta. regionalism is cope for vocal minorities.
If you mention the people south of Seattle, I'm including the area south of Seattle.
The senate is fucking horrible and antiquated, maybe there's an argument for a bicameral anti-democratic upper house but that thing is broken. You initially weren't even able to vote for senators
huh, insular bigot retard with no individual identity coping. how about that
gets enough non-midwest humans coming through to not be fullblown retarded. exception, not rule
How else can we prevent the cities from dominating politics and ignoring rural/small town concerns?
we dont moron
"one person one vote" is a principle that's been reaffirmed repeatedly in this country
TOTAL RAT DEATH
We still can't vote for our senators here. As bad as your senate is, nothing can compare to ours.
Why are they like this? Are they trying to pull the same stunt as St.Patrick?
Our senate doesn't really do anything, one way or another, it's just a waste of taxpayer money.
?? they nuke popular bills on the regular, that's worse than nothing
how do i know more about your cunt than you
I actually like the American senate model when it works as a mechanism of counterbalance. Seeking consensus by blocking federal policies rather than imposing them with minority rule. Checking and revising bills, ensuring as many people as possible all across the country are on board with a certain piece of legislation. What doesn't make sense is to use the number of senators to impose the will of the minority electing heads of government. There's a big difference there.
The chief of the country needs to be elected by the citizens but his actions and the laws need to pass a consensus filter to protect smaller states
Why does Quebec want independence so badly when their entire province relies on gibs? And how are they such a net negative, isn't Montreal like one of the wealthiest city in the country?
it is, it's fake propaganda for alberta's indipendence
you should've included mexico, south america, africa, australia, antartica and parts of europe and asia then if you're being intentionally dense
Seattle is USA
it's per person. quebec has twice as many people as alberta and most of them run a maple syrup farm.
The chief of the country needs to be elected by the citizens but his actions and the laws need to pass a consensus filter to protect smaller states
the chief of the country need to be elected by everyone who's fucked your mom
universal suffrage in other words
regions aren't a hivemind. you're proposing a democracy with a smaller, more retarded democracy inside of it. which we already have so you're really proposing yet another layer of indirect democracy.
no sane person thinks this is a good idea. it's vocal minority cope.
I see it as supermajority rule. The vocal minorities can't force something over the others, they can only prevent something from being forced upon everyone. It makes even more sense in true federations like Canada and the US because if the people in a certain province or state really liked a certain policy but didn't get it approved federally they could just implement it internally to themselves without forcing others who disagree to take part on it