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Me gusta leer
Te gusta leer?
tengo una lapicera
querés una lapicera?
Ella no puede venir a la leccion
por que no puede venir?
como escribir esto?
lo hás como eso
cual pagina es eso?
esto no es papel
Cuando esto estaba escribiendose?
En vez de una lapicera, tengo una aguja que funciona bien, pero nomás a veces
Me traes un cuchillo de hierra así que puede lo cortar y mete en el culo del gobierno

We need to start learning Afrikaans here in the US.

When did you start learning German btw? Do you think this timeline is realistic?

Sure but the fact that nominative singular/plural is completely flipped from what makes sense, and only occurs for masculine nouns, just seems designed to trip you up

I learned German on my own on-and-off for about a couple years, but then again my native tongue is English and not Portuguese. Only took formal classes in German (beginning with Intermediate II) in undergrad

It's reasonable but I'd have to figure out what the native tongue of the guy who's doing this then

t. Master's in Linguistics, starting my PhD in Linguistics in August

Ah a fellow gradual school member. Students calling you professor is pretty funny, so naïve to the long and tortuous route to that title

I told them they can call me Mr. [surname] but eventually I just gave in because they wouldn't call me anything but professor

It's one of them things yknow

lapicera

lápiz*
lapicera = pencil case

como escribir esto?

cómo se escribe esto?

lo hás como eso

hazlo así
"cómo eso" doesnt feel natural at all, but if you let it out on accident you would be understood

cual pagina es eso?

understandable, but "en qué página está?" feels more natural

Cuando esto estaba escribiendose?

cuándo se escribió esto?

En vez de una lapicera, tengo una aguja que funciona bien, pero nomás a veces

lápiz* instead of lapicera
i feel like "aguja" means stylus when it comes to a record player, i think here its referring to an ancient stylus, in which case the word would be "estilo"

Me traes un cuchillo de hierra así que puede lo cortar y mete en el culo del gobierno

tráeme ("me traes" is indicative) un cuchillo de hierro*, para cortarlo y metérselo en el culo al gobierno
or alternatively
para que lo corte y se lo meta...

Do you choose a language family to study? Like Germanic, Celtic, etc? Linguistics is super fascinating. I love the Celtic languages. I would love to have a decent level of Basque as well

I just tell them to use my first name, which they're more willing to do since I usually am just a TA. I think it's something about being the main instructor of a class that makes them think they gotta use professor.

But to keep it more on topic, what sort of linguistics do you study?

en el culo al gobierno

now that i think about it "por el culo" feels more natural

napenda kusoma
unapenda kusomaje?
Nina kalamu
unataka kalamu?
Hawezi kuenda darasani
Kwanini hawezi kuja?
Unaandikaje hii vipi?
Unafanya kama hivyo.
Ni karasa gani?
Hii si karatasi.
Iliandikwa lini?
Hii imeandikwa miaka mamia iliyopita.

can't believe how much i've forgotten

kjjj, hice demasiados equivocaciones, capaz que deberia acostarme ahora

tambien porque me olvidé, gracias por las correciones aunque en argentina la mayoria usa "lapicera" para decir "pen" según google pero me equivoque las conjugaciones de voseo entonces fue re duro problamente para darse cuenta de todos modos

Applied/General Linguistics in my MA, which I officially graduate from on Sunday

PhD is in Historical Indo-European Linguistics (specifically Germanic)

kjjj, hice demasiados equivocaciones, capaz que deberia acostarme ahora

tuve demasiados fallos*

tambien porque me olvidé, gracias por las correciones aunque en argentina la mayoria usa "lapicera" para decir "pen" según google pero me equivoque las conjugaciones de voseo entonces fue re duro problamente para darse cuenta de todos modos

me equivoqué en*
sí kek, pensaba que eras otro, por eso te escribí en inglés, igual lo único que cambia es el estrés silábico, entonces se te habría entendido fuese donde fuese

I hate languages
FUCK Nimrod for making them exist

nimRUDE

Mнe нpaвитcя читaть.
Teбe нpaвитcя читaть?
У мeня pyчкa.
Хoчeшь pyчкy?
Oнa нe мoжeт пpийти нa ypoк.
Пoчeмy oнa нe мoжeт пpйити?
Кaк этo пишeшь?
Tы этo пишeшь вoт тaк.
Кaкaя этo cтpaницa?
Этo нe бyмaгa.
Кoгдa этo былo нaпиcaнo?
Этo былo нaпиcaнo coтни лeт нaзaд.

Глинa лyчшe вceгo и я ee зaщищaю дo пocлeднeгo вздoхa.
Bмecтo pyчки y мeня cтилoc, кoтopый пpeкpacнo paбoтaeт, нo тoлькo инoгдa.
Чтo ты имeeшь в видy, чтo вce cгopeлo? Bce мoи дoгoвopы были в этoм дoмe!

I almost managed to translate the last of the difficult ones, but made too many mistakes

i fucking swear if i had the motivation to do scriptorium i could get b2-c1 in like 1.5 months

grim...
neh, sijui, ulini(?)jibu swali langu wa nyuzi nyingi iliyopita? nini kazi yako? Ni lazima kuwa vigumu, kama huna muda wa(?) kiswahili
tafadhali sahihisha(?) makosa yangu, ninatumia kamusi na vitabu vya sarufi vingi kuandika nawe(?)

Danke für die Korrektur. Hab vergessen, dass Typ ein sogenanntes schwaches Substantiv ist.

How come the German learners here are usually head and shoulders above others ITT when it comes to proficiency/progress? Just something I noticed over the years.

Wahrscheinlich nur ein Zufall, aber meiner Meinung nach zieht Deutsch eine gewisse Klientel an, die überproportional, wie der andere Anon schon gesagt hat und mangels eines besseren Wortes, autistisch ist, was zur Folge hat, dass Deutschlernender größere Fortschritte machen.

Ganz am Ende des Videos ist mir aufgefallen, dass er etwa 50 Minuten täglich beim Durchblättern seiner Flash-karten verbringt, was ich für total verrückt halte. Ich verbringe etwa 8 Minuten bei Anki und ich finde das nervig. Hut ab, dass er das überhaupt aushalten kann, aber meines Erachtens ergibt das keinen Sinn angesichts seines hohen Niveaus. Würde eigentlich von irgendeiner Art von Anki-sucht ausgehen. Wenn er an seinem Vorhaben festhalte, dann werden seine täglichen Reviews zumindest langsam mit der Zeit nachlassen.

Herausforderung: das geschriebene Wort Ausgabe, Muster-Unterausgabe

Ich lese gern
Liest du gern?
Ich hab einen Kuli/Stift.
Hättest du gern einen Kuli?
Sie kann die Lektion nicht besuchen (geht auch "für die Lektion kann sie nicht dabei sein"?)
Woran liegt es, dass sie nicht kommen kann?
Wie schreibt man dies?
Man tut es so.
Welche Seite ist das?
Das besteht nicht aus Papier.
Wann ist das verfasst worden?
Dies ist vor Jahrhunderten geschrieben worden.

Ton ist jedem anderen Material überlegen und ich werde dem bis zu meinem letzten Atemzug beistehen.
Anstatt eines Stifts habe ich bei mir einen Griffel, was oftmals toll funktioniert, aber nicht immer.
Was meinst du damit, dass es komplett niedergebrannt ist! Alle meine Verträge lagen in dem Haus!

Für wen hast du mich gehalten, dass du mich während meiner Abwesenheit meines Amtes enthoben und einem anderen es verliehen hast?
Warum hast du mir einen fauligen Fisch geschickt? Warum hast du den Buben in dem Lagerhaus festgehalten nur später ihn auf freien Fuß zu setzen, ehe ich selbst davon gehört habe und einen Befehl dazu erteilen konnte?
Hast du wirklich die Befugnis dafür bekommen, Menschen entfernen und installieren zu lassen? Diese Gewalt liegt exklusiv bei mir!
Bring mir ein eisernes Messer sodass ich es abschneiden und dem Gouverneur es in den Arsch treiben kann.

Not the same anon, but I've been at it seriously since the pandemic or so with some prior inconsistent studying prior to that (read: duolingo), and I'd say this is more or less realistic, although I think he had the major advantage of living there, and moreover at a time (15 years ago) where english proficiency amongst germans was probably markedly lower.

I'd really like to spend a couple months there at some point in the future as I feel like I'll never master the speaking aspect otherwise.

(was too lazy after the challenge to respond as I normally do in german)

ئاددىي

كىتاب ئوقۇشنى ياخشى كۆرىمەن
سىز ئوقۇشقا ئامراقمۇ؟
قەلمىم بار
قەلەم خالايسىزمۇ؟
دەرسكە كەلمىيالايدۇ
نېمىشقا كەلمىيالايدۇ؟
بۇ سۆزنى قانداق يازىدۇ؟
شۇنداق
بۇ قايسى بەت؟
بۇ قەغەز ئەمەس
بۇنى نە ۋاقت يازدى؟
بۇنى ھازىردىن كۆپ يۈز يىل بۇرۇن يازدى

words looked up: page (I forgot)

中级

黏土胜于所有其他的物,我直到残喘要分辨!
替钢笔,咱有条触控笔,真的很好用,可是有的时候不这样。
你啥意思全烧掉了,我的合同都在那楼里!

难

你背后把我这任转给别人,你觉得我算是什么东西呢?
你把馁鱼寄给我、有人把小伙子在仓库拘留进而允许他逃跑,都没通知我没收到我的命令,这都是啥呀?
你真的获得了录取解雇工人的权力吗?录取解雇工人的责任可只属于我!
把一把刀带来给我,以便我切掉刀刃插入州长的屁眼!

words looked up: clay, stylus, dying breath

english proficiency

You might be able to speak with zoomers and academics in English. But if you're out in the countryside asking for directions, if you need to ask a bus driver if he stops at a certain location, if you need a plumber or someone who fixes your car ... well, you better speak German. English is compulsory subject in all schools, but with those of lower education (and lower paid jobs) you can't really count on that they still remember English from school.

In Germany, everything is dubbed German. Everything. TV shows, films, documentaries, foreign news segments. If you live in Germany, you won't have to learn English, you can get by all of your life just knowing German.

Кaк этo пишeшь?

Tы этo пишeшь вoт тaк.

Кaк этo пишeтcя? Этo пишeтcя вoт тaк.
Slavs use the reflexive in an impersonal meaning here, which would be "how does one write this" in english

I almost managed to translate the last of the difficult ones, but made too many mistakes

post it anon, I don't know russian but I'm curious to see it

What’s the end goal of learning it though?
Does the literature interest you or are you just in it for an aesthetic notebook?

I wanted to be able to outpoot an ancient language, started sumerian but found akkadian much prettier
the end goal is a library of tablets about various things

Fair enough desu. That’s essentially my goal in learning Latin. I’m curious as to whether or not you can recognise Semitic cognates in Arabic and Hebrew, it’s not everyday you can ask an Akkadianknower a question

sometimes, but they're not too common, since akkadian got hit pretty hard by sumerian loans, and it's eastern semitic, so quite a bit further away from the two than either of them are from each other. but I had a bit of a moment a few years into akkadian where I saw the mene, mene, tekel, upharsin phrase from the bible and went

hold on

manû

šaqālu

parāsu

shiiieeeet

in modern it's harder, and I doubt I'd be of any use with spoken

page (I forgot)

lel.

So annoying when this happens. I had to double check I had the right word for pen of all things.