Do Germans and Scandis see whiteness the same way as Anglo-Saxons?

as in, having a "white" identity, casually referring to themselves as white, southern Europeans not being considered white, etc

young people do, but there is no distinction between north and south europeans.
european = white

That's an american thing and they are getting americanized so I would suppose

classic case of frog failing to understand that 'anglo-saxons' don't exist and haven't for over a millennium
In an english sense of whiteness all europeans are white

That's an american thing

No, Brits and Australians also see whiteness like Americans. It's an Anglo-Saxon thing.

Anglo-Saxon

Isn't that an exclusively Russian state-sponsored media term

No it's a settler colonial thing
I've seen mostly Americans use the term
I despise it personally

before browsing this site I considered everyone with white skin that wasn't asian white

we don't
anglo-saxons don't exist

yes but also a term used a lot in french
it exists so that french people can see english as other rather than (as they actually are) almost the same as french people

nativists in Australia and USA have been using this term throughout the 19th and 20th century and nationalists are still using it today. Even Brits were using it in the past. It's not a French thing. The term Anglo-Saxon doesn't refer to the ancient Anglo-Saxons but to all cultures that stem from England. It's like the term Hispanic

Where then does the term White Anglo-Saxon Protestant (WASP) come from? It's just a designation for all white native anglophones.

The germans had something similar. They did not consider the slavs white, well, not white, but unequal to themselves.

Yes you do your census literally uses the term white

I know
It isn't a term used here
It is only a term used in france and by russian propagandists these days
Anglo-saxon as a cultural identity doesn't exist

learn how to read
I said that we don't have the same concept of race as americans

No it's a settler colonial thing

Then why does white identity excludes other Europeans? In your country, Italians and Greeks are grouped with Arabs.
Whiteness in Anglo-Saxon culture is inextricably tied to Englishness and sees Englishness as the standard of whiteness. For Anglo-Saxons, whiteness is a scale, and so everybody who is less English or less Germanic is seen as less white. It's closely connected to nordicism too, but Anglos today are not aware of it.

I'm not denouncing this view of race, I'm just asking if other northern Europeans see it the same way.

Anglo-saxon as a cultural identity doesn't exist

but it is still a reality. Don't act like you have nothing to do with Americans. You have more in common with Australians on the other side of the world than you have with us.

anglo-saxons don't exist
please stop using this term

yeah?
maybe but australians are not americans are they
a quarter of brits are conversational in french
we have a lot in common

maybe but australians are not americans are they

Honestly what's the difference?

we have a lot in common

such as?

Because meds are brown (and worse, papist)

Then why does white identity excludes other Europeans?

Because those who immigrated from Britain and held most of the power in Australia wanted a way to differentiate themselves from immigrants from Europe who came from different backgrounds

In your country, Italians and Greeks are grouped with Arabs

No that's not true
It's only the Lebanese who are called wogs not Arabs in general, also Serbs and Croats are called wogs as well
Btw most wogs will have immigrant parents or grandparents and will have many relatives living near them, wog friends and wog neighbours, they formed enclaves when they came here
These people were distinct from the rest, it's not just a theoretical racial label

No. Germans are different from Danes. And Germans and Danes are different from Spaniards.

Honestly what's the difference?

this is where the overuse of the term anglo-saxon in the french media has blinded you
you are very ignorant

such as?

You are being very disingenuous if you can't see this

It's funny because "meds" see themselves as white and make no difference between north and south Europeans. While northern Europeans and Anglo-Saxons like you see them like Arabs. It's actually sad

Whiteness in Anglo-Saxon culture is inextricably tied to Englishness and sees Englishness as the standard of whiteness. For Anglo-Saxons, whiteness is a scale, and so everybody who is less English or less Germanic is seen as less white

Yes, but technically the epicenter is not in England

Nowadays there is DNA, whiteness by genetics is determined by Yamnaya DNA input

That's because they are brown and desperately want to be part of the white people club but they are 'native Europeans' who fail the one drop rule

you are replying to a mutt and calling him a northern european anglo
actual retard

I am genetically northern European though. That's where my blue eyes are from.

So you're telling to my face Italians and Greeks aren't called wogs the same way as Arabs now? lmao
Why lie online?

You are being very disingenuous if you can't see this

Enlighten me

Americans overwhelmingly descend from northern Europeans and also are Anglo-Saxons. Their culture ultimately comes from England, they speak English, etc

meds and latinx use a perfidious definition of "white" where they think bring christian matters more than phenotype btw, they are disingenuous on the term
Sometimes they will also try to claim "conquered by Rome = white" but only when arguing with white Germanics they'll ditch this immediately if a north African or turk shows up

Nah. Southern Europeans believe they are racially white. They don't bring up christianity or Rome

Germans have a slur like "wog" for meds, kanake iirc.

You've got to be a Russian posting with a VPN
No other group is this retarded, go fuck yourself you stupid fucking cunt

They do on Anon Babble constantly. New?

the really sad thing is that he isn't
my family are all francophiles (like most upper middle class anglo since William the Conqueror) and so I speak french and french people constantly use the term 'anglo-saxon' in their media

I live in southern Europe, i know what people think

yeah, they are brown. but Southern Germans are also brown and short.

What makes you think so?
i don't understand why you're so mad

William the Conqueror

I thought William was le epic viking though

Nooo Anon Babble doesn't count

Cope

I've never considered myself white and always found it to be an extremely rude exonym. I know several people with very strong Anti-Polish, Anti-French or Anti-Italian sentiments, irrespective of political ideology. The only ones who think there is a "white identity" are some neo-fash faggots who at the same time want to be part of something greater than themselves but also realize they don't have any friends around them.

The consept of "white" is most certanly a Anglo thing. Of corse there is some remnants of the physical anthropology stuff from the 18-hundreds in current view of race especially by the older generation. The Anglos are obsessedd with race conpared to here tho. I had a exhange year in Scotland at university and when I enrolled I had to fill out a form with what race I was, that was wierd. I also had to take "other" since North Germanic was not an option. Lots of collonial choices like "black caribbeann" and such.

You're part of the white race genius
I'm glad you're getting all these brown immigrants and rapidly becoming race realists like we are

That's completely understandable though for Anglos, in a more multi-racial society people will naturally think in terms of race.

I thought William was le epic viking though

this but Norse settlers in northern France
What wine does to a motherfucker

You are white though

You live in East Germany which is an ethno state (and rapidly dying lol)
If you were a wessi you'd immediately become a race realist

you think all the french people in neustria were replaced by vikings who for some reason spoke french and had french customs?

No we dont. Our identity resolves around being German and Scandis are as foreign to us as Italians

Scandis are as foreign to us as Italians

literally what's the difference between Germans and Scandis?

German

Fake identity made after Prussia btfo'd papists as a cope because you had fallen irreversibly behind in the empire game. Even the American identity is significantly older than it

Between the people of southern jutland and Schleswig not much.
Between lower Bavaria and Finnmark a lot.

no, never said that. More like this since we were alking about William the bastard. Was Neustria more germanic, celtic or latin? Or was western Europe a huge melting pot after the fall of western rome?

filthy continentals

The term Anglo-Saxon doesn't refer to the ancient Anglo-Saxons but to all cultures that stem from England. It's like the term Hispanic

Just say "Anglo" then. Anglo-Saxon does specifically refer to our ancestors, and the culture unique to them before it got Normanised. We say "Anglo" to refer to modern Anglophone nations of British origin (Canada, US, Oz & NZ, a small percentage of South Africans, etc.)

filthy continentals

Traditionally no. If you asked a German 10 years ago which race he is he would probably have answered German. Nowadays with more migration from outside europe and heavy influence from US through social media you have a high chance of them answering white. For southern europeans i guess they would still be considered white except for turks.

Historically Scandinavians had largely similar views to the English in that Catholic southerners were wogs

Germans and Dutch are half Catholic so a lot of their prejudices turned towards their Jewish population and we all know how that turned out

To talk about "germanic", "celtic" or "latin" in this era is already retarded enough. The "Germanic" elite that took over after the decline of the Empire would eventually be so deeply latinized and even ultimately mix with non-Germans (despite laws against miscenegation) that making any distinction other than nobility vs pleb or rich vs poor in the middle ages would be nonsensical and ahistorical
Of the celtic or non celtic cultures that existed before the latinization of the area, little would be left. Moreover during the late Empire era and after, virtually everybody in the territory of Rome called themselves Roman, called their language Roman, and were culturally Roman. There were no such thing as "gallo-Romans", just Romans.

But at around the 7th century, French identity had stopped being an ethnic identity limited to the French (Franks), and slowly extended to everybody that lived in the kingdom of the Franks (except in the south, where Aquitans instead had Goths and all would still call themselves Romans for a long time, even though Aquitaine was in the kingdom of the Franks). During much of the early middle ages, a Frenchman could have for native tongue Roman (regional popular Latin) or French (Frankish language), or be a nobleman or a pleb, and all would be considered French.

No regions except in Germany was more Germanic than Latin

and the culture unique to them before it got Normanised

I love how Anglo-Saxons believe Norman culture is in any way different from French culture or is anything unique within French culture. They're as vanilla French as it gets. Just say French.

traditionally no, but among young americanised generations yes of course. traditionally nordic/non-nordic would be the relevant categorisation, and of course even more importantly swedish/non-swedish.

I love how Anglo-Saxons believe Norman culture is in any way different from French culture or is anything unique within French culture.

it was a thousand years ago, France being a centralised state is fairly recent

race? German

Retards lol
Your great grandparents would’ve known how to answer correctly

You said it again. It's just "Anglo" lil bro.

Never encoutered anyone here who thought in the category of "white". People think in terms of "German, polish, italian, turk, arab, african, gypsy, french" and so on.

Anglo is even worse, we're English or British

Thats because you live in East Germany or a tiny village lol go to a major city and it's immediately race realism mode

Norman’s settled Normandy when it was the carolingian empire and despite being dressed like chimps in suits by the carolingians were still as distinct as any other manner of germanic group doing as the roman’s.

this is so dishonest lol, you guys are obsessed with big black cock porn but pretend you're not white

Scandis are
more openmided and open towards new technologies
less hostile towards science
less religious
less susceptible to esoteric bullshit
mostly Lutheran while Germans are mostly Catholic or Calvinist
not nearly as obsessed with cars
a lot better at english

immediatly thinks of black dick

What would Freud have to say about that

There is really no difference between a Norman and a Burgundian

yeah, but am I wrong?

Sure, but he's been on about Canadians/Australians too

There is really no difference between a Norman and a Burgundian

Not now obviously, but it was a different case 1000 years ago. The reason why we call the Normans Norman is because that's what they called themselves when they came here, they didn't call themselves Frenchmen.

They would have said aryan. But you are delusional if you think as a white american you would have been included in aryan. Aryan in to them was just another word for german or broadly germanic with scandis, dutch and austrians included.

Hmm lil bro, read a Domesday Book
opendomesday.org/name/frenchman-one/

Hitler admired white Americans though

and yet they were still french
the plantagenêts were too, but you like to pretend they didn't matter, even though they and their heritage would last longer on your island