Saar we were opressed by the mean Turks :(

Romania wasn't even under occupation, it was a vassal state, right?

Croatian women in Bosnia tattooed themselves with Christian symbols on their hands and bodies

I think Aromanian women in Macedonia used to do the same thing by tattooing crosses on their foreheads. In the 90s there were still some very old women here who were born pre-Balkan Wars there and emigrated to Romania later and they had that.

we wuz enslaved o algo

before us you were killing each other and shitting in muds, we gave you bread and home
balkans weren't the land of philosophers, even in 2025 bosnians pray in the mosque we built, serbians cross the bridge we built, greeks live in houses we built

After all, the biggest difference in the standard and quality of life between two neighboring European countries is Croatia and Bosnia

you forgot Norway and Russia share a border, bro

Your home country is ARMENIA
You think you'r Dacian but you love only SARMA, DOLMA and KOFTE
Your religion is THE SCAM
Your nipple color is not the same as those to the north of you
You cackle when others lose their life savings
You are a JEW
only barbaric
ARMENIA is your home

balkans weren't the land of philosophers

huh? tons of Greek/Byzantine philosophers came from what we call the Balkans now
if only Turks ever had as much contribution to islamic philosophy as let's say Cyril and Methodius had to Christian philosophy...

Oh, foul Armenian
thou think'st thineself Saracen
However, thou are a common peddlar!
Thine reach dos't not exceed thine grasp!
Oh, beturbaned one, wouldbe despoiler,
Thou are but a petty salesman!

we didn't find philosophers when we came
we were 1500 years late

we built

im pretty sure all of that was built by local population, just coincidentally under Turkish oppression

now im waiting for Turkish excuses about "how Turks were the most oppressed people in all of the Ottoman Empire and the whole political system of the Ottoman Empire only served non-Muslim minorities at the expense of the poor Turkish peasants" so the bingo is complete
Turks are just Muslim Russians with excuses like this.

Same achievement as the Imperial Russian navy, huge empire built on terror, wealth extracted by primitive exploitation and commissioned expertise from actually developed regions.
There is nothing turkish in architectural ingenuity of the ottomans

we didn't find philosophers when we came

yeah, because you slayed them with swords

also

we

funny how Turks can unironically embrace this schizophrenia and call Ottomans "we" while at the same claiming that Turks were most oppressed by Ottomans people within the empire...

im pretty sure all of that was built by local population

yes, balkan peasants were masters in architectural engineering

Let me get this straight. Bosniaks are Muslim Croats?

I just love calling ppl Armenian, everyone hates it!

you said "built", not "designed"
and it was most likely designed by some Armenian, Greek, Persian or Arab because ethnic Turks weren't engineers either

No, he meant they were brown ooga booga Arabs from 12.000 BC with an IQ of 70 who only overwhelmed the Aryans with sheer numbers. Remember how Ottoman Turkish was almost pure Arabic? That was a regression to the mean. Also, you're 1.47 m tall.

average schizophrenic Turk b like

I hate the Ottoman Empire...

...unless another nation than mine insults the Ottoman Empire, then I will die on that hill to defend its legacy!

you seethe because you mad some barbarians btfo you countless times
i don't want to spend time on meaningless pissing contest come to me if you really want to ask something

Yes, but they did occupy some parts, river ports, fortresses.
Also, they still imposed demolishing most castles, heavy taxes, and political dependence on Ottomans, and at some point they started imposing rulers directly, the Phanariotes. We also had to give janissaries, there were also Ottoman raid for plundering or punishment, by the akinji troops.
Also Moldova and Walachia were constantly being used as a battlefield when fighting Austria and Russia, and stripped of all their grain and livestock by the Ottomans when that happned.
There's nuance, Large automony, less direct control, one of the Phanariote rulers was a reformer who abolished serfdom

we didn't find philosophers when we came

we were 1500 years late

your chink-sandniggerish hybrid ancestors found a whole civilization in Anatolia after manzikert with millennia of Greek and Italic heritage while being only used to oases and yurts in the slums of khorasan
why did all of them settle in the Aegean all of sudden? don't be ridiculous

Every Balkanoid adores cabbage roles, he thinks them better than rare steak and relishes in baking them with chunks of pork fat. That's how you distinguish a bowlegged Petcheneg from a European.

my dad's side is bessarabian tatar i wonder if there are any turks or tatars left there

yes, they're called Gagauz people

Why do balkans seethe so hard about janissaries? Its objectively better than living as a peasant

gagauz are differnt thing

Its objectively better than living as a peasant

we don't care about how an individual feels about it when talking about countries/societies
just the point is that being forced to send young, healthy men away from your country to serve your occupier weakened their state/society/nation even more so it couldn't resist against Turks, start an uprising or something, hence Turkish occupation lasted for much longer time than it could and that's why Balkan states are what they are now

God I love Balkans. There's something inherently soulful about that entire region. I only fear that in the future when they get rich enough they will lose that soul and become just another generic part of europe.

with millennia of Greek and Italic heritage

yes we came here and started to live in ancient greek cities, speak greek and do buttsex thank you greek civilization

Having your religion and ethnicity changed is kind of a big deal. If you were a Serb or Croat soldier for the Austrians, at least they would leave that alone.
Also getting taken by force.

Why so few Arabs, were they influential in the Empire?

And by Turkish dies it mean Oghuz Turkics like Turkmens and Azeris?

God I love Balkans.

so do our women, that's why you can see them dating all kinds of balkanoids instead of polish guys

Poles romanticizing the Balkan is one of the funniest Anon Babble memes

I feel nice today so I'll only say that you didn't build anything. Your empire produced zero worthy things. I can hardly find anything Turkish in my city. I think there isn't anything.

And by Turkish dies it mean Oghuz Turkics like Turkmens and Azeris?

basically everyone who had turkish as his monther tongue was turkish because turkish wasn't an influential and useful language so language assimilation was not a thing
converts were taken at the age they have already learned their own ethnic language so turkish was a sexond langauge for them

i'm afraid next to glorious serbian architecture, turkish architecture is nothing

it is encapsulated easiest with the name used for that practice - blood tax. It adds a new layer of abuse much more primal in nature

I'm fucking dying here thinking what the glowie report will entail: 'The suspect first identified all Balkan migrants as Armenians, clearly stating that they should migrate or face 'Armenization'. Afterwards, he identified this same group as 'Bow-legged Petchenegs'. HAHAHAHHAHA OH GOOOOD LMAOOOOO

i love watching turks deffend the ottomans in the balkans for some reason it makes me very sexually arroused

Which ethnic groups spoke Turkish as their mother language at that time?
Did Turkish language became common only in the 20-s with the mass education?
To me current Turkey is a monolingual country

Quite true in another way since Yugoslavia built up the entire non-aligned countries infrastructure.
But I don't get why you're sarcastic. Go through the Balkans, you'll see buildings from Austrian, Kingdom and commie Yugoslavia times (almost always the last). Literally nothing remains from you. In far south there's just a few pieces of walls from forts that got dismantled in 19th century because forts got outdated. And a well or two. You don't have to trust me, you can check these things yourself.

How is that a meme? It's a turbo comfy region.

cabbage roles

which are roman in ancestry and were eaten in the empire since millennia
if you want proper oghuz food you should eat fermented yogurt and raw meat

started to live in ancient greek cities

you literally did

speak greek

you did not accept the language

do buttsex

you have the highest amount of fags in Germany compared to any other ethnicity so you definitely do

Croats and Serbs, if that's what you're referring to, only became enemies 100 years ago. We never fought with them. Croatia was a peaceful country where there was no war except with retarded Venice who tried unsuccessfully to occupy the Croatian coast, but apart from them we didn't have any wars. And then you came here. We have been at war with you, Islamist scum, for centuries. I have 3 wishes in life (which are beyond my control but I hope they will happen).
1. That Croatia wins the World Cup in football.
2. That we liberate Bosnia.
3. That the Russians drop an atomic bomb on Istanbul.
Ok bro but you get it.
Islamized Croats and Serbs. Look at the shape of Croatia, you don't need any historical knowledge to conclude that Bosnia was once part of Croatia.

but apparently never in Slovenia until the *ones from the south* introduced their overriding love of cabbage roles

Which ethnic groups spoke Turkish as their mother language at that time?

turks? i said turkish was not as influencial compared to other imperial languages, ottomans didn't even teach its people turkish because there weren't any schools so average ottoman citizen was born, learned his language, lived his life in his isolated village and died

Did Turkish language became common only in the 20-s with the mass education?

no

I am indifferent to Turkey and don't wish to offend turks but how do they argue in favor of an Empire that set quality of life, technological and cultural advancement everywhere it touched so far back?

Imagine how much more developed Anatolia and the Balkans would be today if Manzikert didn't happen.

As if every pole doesnt shit all over the plc but barks the second anyone brings up the partitions

I have 3 wishes in life (which are beyond my control but I hope they will happen).

you know you can't do shit yourself so you wish muh daddy russia do something like every other slav nations for centuries
very sad actually

you know, your stuffed vegetables that are grilled rather than boiled are actually pretty decent. It may be those Slavs you ruled who are to blame! THE BOGOMILS! THE ARNAVUT RACKETEERS!

well they also introduced it to continental germanic and slavic cuisine

Montecuccoli was impressed with the quality of ottoman gunpowder
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqi_ad-Din_Muhammad_ibn_Ma'ruf
Ottoman scholar, credited with creating a primitive steam turbine
Ottoman observatories in the 16th century were on par with the rest of Europe

you have the highest amount of fags in Germany

it's not our fault because german schools indoctrinate their students homosexuality

Abazin

Devshirme

Pomak

Donmeh

Holy fuck what are these meme ethnicities?

The whole thing is probably not even Asiatic at all, or so long ago as to render the point m00t, but here it is an indicator of cultural identity, like not palatalizing your L's

>Abazin

some caucasian mystery box

>Devshirme

convert in turkish, probably his ethnicity was unknown so they labeled just labeled him as convert

>Pomak

muslim slav

>Donmeh

jew, most likely sephardic jew came after spanish expellion of jews

Abazin

Circassians

Pomak

Bulgarians

Donmeh

Jews

Devshirme

"Devshirme (Ottoman Turkish: دوشیرمه, romanized: devşirme, lit.'collecting',[a] usually translated as "child levy"[b] or "blood tax"[c])[3] was the Ottoman practice of forcibly recruiting soldiers and bureaucrats from among the children of their Balkan Christian subjects and raising them in the religion of Islam.[4][5][6] Those coming from the Balkans came primarily from noble Balkan families and rayah classes."

Retard

Turkish actors

Turkish actors & onlyfans whores

Turkish actors & onlyfans whores

Turkish administrators

homosexuality is the most foreign trait in Germanic society
Germanic tribes used to tie fags up on trees and slaughter them with battle axes look it up, quite a few roman historical sources that describe that
if anything it's an other prove that your culture is heavily influenced by Greeks and Italics as they always had the fable for children and men

abazins are not circassian, they have their own language and identity
after russian genocide of circassians they came along with ubihs abazins and many other caucasian mystery ethnicities

Germanic tribes used to tie fags up on trees and slaughter them with battle axes look it up, quite a few roman historical sources that describe that

we don't live in 5th century bro, medieval turks also tied homosexuals to two different roped and whipped horses so homosexuals would tear apart
people change with time, germans have changed

So what are your feelings about basically being Andranik Zildjan?

Not him but i have a question. Do türkiye turks consider bulgarian turks the complete same as them? I heard from some Gurbets here that they don’t like them and see them somewhat as gypsys

We don't have atomic bombs, logically I want someone else to do it. However, the Russians are the closest to that scenario because they, as the 'third Rome', have a historical mission to do so. After all, in the Balkan wars you were defeated by the Slavic countries.

But the official language of the Ottoman Empire was Turkish meaning that the documentation and decrees were held in Turkish. But if you say that not with the Turkish Republic and Atatürk Turkish became dominant then when?

How do you feel about your Hayk identity? Does it phase you that there's basically another you in Sultaniyeh, rating saffron rice from his hand like a chimp, only pretending to be 'Iranian', when you're both really Armenian?

you wish muh daddy russia

Yet they still see Russians as savage subhuman

no. i'm half "bulgarian" turk, we speak the same language and overall have the same culture and act the same with a little regional differences
it's just unfortunate border partition they happened to be on the other side of border

In west Croatia and south Slovenia we only got occasional raids from bands of turks but there was no Turkish rule west of Velebit mountains and all the Turkish influence came here after WW2. Meanwhile Slavonia, Hungary, modern Romania etc were occupied for years but they're not considered "balkan"

i think he means the modern turkish language
ottoman turkish was riddled with perso-arabic loanwords

But the official language of the Ottoman Empire was Turkish meaning that the documentation and decrees were held in Turkish.

so ethnic minorities only learned turkish in they became state officers, turkish language was limited between the royal family-state and the ethnic turks, our village was in a diverse area and people 10km away from each other spoke completely different langauge and didn't even need to learn a second language because, i am saying this for 1000nd time, they didn't need it

Are you sure you're not Toros Sparapetian
with your nose five times the length of your flattened skull
And your hands constantly wringing from the gain you could acquire from the accursed infidel who do not even stuff grape leaves with mush?

But if you say that not with the Turkish Republic and Atatürk Turkish became dominant then when?

with the creation of modern turkish state it was already predominantly ethnic turkish populated with the expellions of other minorities and population exchanges between former ottoman states
a few minorities later assimilated however, like circassians bosniaks albanians etc, learned turkish with the start of public education of new republic

Sounds like something a bulgarian turk would say

i wonder how there happened to be turks in modern yugoslavia, i read there was around 100k turks back then
probably they were mostly in macedonia and bosnia

we don't live in 5th century bro

billion years of "progression" must die though
it do be like that kek

Can anyone give me a qrd on why Armenians have such a garbage reputation that the biggest insult you can give to anyone in Anatolia is calling him an armenian?

ummm no, we love PLC

that's because we were oppressed by even worse Russia, comparing to which being oppressed by Turkey feels like a paradise

Modern Yugoslavia?
Actual Turkish speaking Turks could be found only in Macedonia I think
In the early 20th century and before that all Muslim Slavs were called Turks, so depending on the year what you might be seeing are all Bosniaks + some other Slavic Muslim groups in Serbia and Macedonia like Gorani being counted as Turks.
Maybe in the past they were bilingual and spoke Turkish in Bosnia but I don't know if that's true.

Armenians are an ancient Christian nation they are the most educated of the Caucasus and gave the world the most cultural figures and they with the Georgians integrated both in the Ottoman and Russian Empire, don’t listen what some Ballanoid say, Armenians arent that

Modern Yugoslavia?

communist

In the early 20th century and before that all Muslim Slavs were called Turks

no, unless you don't speak turkish why would you be called turkish where there are other muslim slavic people like pomaks, bosniaks or macedonians? i saw videos of turks speaking turkish and singing songs praising tito in yugoslavia

Maybe in the past they were bilingual and spoke Turkish in Bosnia but I don't know if that's true.

as i've said turkish was a weak language
even at the yugoslavian period bosniaks or albanians who immigrated here to escape opressions didn't speak turkish

Only because in recent history Russia became a commie hellhole. I know it wasn't great compared to Austrian or Prussian rule but being under Russia was definitely better than being under the Ottomans during and after the industrial revolution.

ordem e progresso

russia did more damage in 45 years than turks in 500. turks got nothing on the ruskis in that regard

Communist Yugoslavia

100k Turks

speaking Turkish

I can only imagine Macedonia or Kosovo having so many Turks that recently. But I basically have no knowledge about those lands.

but being under Russia was definitely better than being under the Ottomans during and after the industrial revolution.

nah, Russia still applied the same primitive barbarian methods in 19th century as it did before and after
and while both Russia and Turkey were oppressive shitholes, at least Turkey gave you cool, interesting culture, music, food, laid-back attitude etc
while there was literally NOTHING positive coming from Russia, in every possible area it was a dump - poor, cold, miserable

no, unless you don't speak turkish why would you be called turkish

Because they were associating with invaders and betraying their identity.

You are in no position to mock anyone, you are culturally inferior compared to Croatia, an anonymous country with no history. I was in a Kaufland parking lot that is bigger than your ridiculous 'country'.

culture, music, food

The rest of Europe eventually got those too

laid back attitude

People would be like that even without Turks. Take for example Venetian ruled parts of Dalmatia.

Polish noble was a creator of NKVD the predecessor of KGB

probably
in civil registry they were called by the language they spoke, i don't care what pejorative terms they were called because they were muslim

nobody posted it yet

kurds and turks from eastern anatolia might hate armenians because of generational trauma
im part kurdish and my kurdish relatives say armenians and russians attacked our clan/tribe/extened family thing and our clan was dispersed many people died and everyone got lost while running away and stuff and that they were only able to reunite after 2 generations or something

another pole takes the L
ever wondered maybe it has something to do with geography?

Islam is just autocracy since it allows the ruling class to basically extract wealth from the masses, the more islamic a country gets just shows how much extraction has occurred in that society

Not paying the updated 'toss

paying

Posting*

Here's one with Istria for comparison.
I would have expected Istria to be more like Slovenia after many, many centuries of HRE and Austrian rule but I guess not? Another colossal W for Primorje & Gorski kotar

point out turkish illiteracy

turk immediately rushes in to prove they can't read

lol
What geography, retard? It literally follows the Austria-Ottoman border down to a centimeter. Lands ruled by the Habsburgs had actual education instead of 24/7 quran humming

noble from Belarus, of East Slavic ethnic origin, raised surrounded by "russkiy mir"
says a lot

Respect your szlachta, crop worker

getting a lick on my shlabadingdong by a lion sounds painful , their tongues are like sandpaper

you're going to need more than that to hurt Heracles

checked

That’s what their nobles wanted us to see in the future on the internet. Did the Ottomans govern Algeria well?
Never seen any North African complain about them on the internet

you could've made this point without the rage comic faces pasted on top

the state of Algiers was officially an ottoman puppet state , but really it was its own thing
the ottoman rule was nominal at best , they deys and beys often disobeyed the caliph and did things on their own and the local leaders often disobeyed them in turn or placed deys of their own choosing
the tribes
in reality it was a military dictatorship with the complicity of local leaders , much like what it is now
the ottomans are well remembered because the barbarossa brothers are what freed us from the decaying ziyyanids and the Spanish incursions which allowed for the development of a somewhat unified , strong and rich state
also because thirdies really like to slurp that turkish cock but thats another thing

placed deys of their own choosing

the tribes

the tribes placed deys of their own choosing*

Something like 80-90% of Algerians lived in total anarchy/independance during the Ottoman period, there was no centralized state/power, just tribal life.
Also the power in Algiers was largely independant off Istanbul - if not hostile after 1670.