Citizenship by ancestry is pretty retarded. I never stepped foot in Romania but was able to claim citizenship just because my parents were born there. I can now vote in Romanian elections and have unlimited access to EU by virtue of blood.
Citizenship by ancestry is pretty retarded...
Are you a Gypsy?
romanian blood
virtuous
LOL
The other option (citizenship jus soli) is way worse.
I'd say ius soli is even weirder.
Americans are only allowed to give birth in America, otherwise their kids don't get to be American.
Meanwhile niggers can just squat in America and their kids be American.
Also dual nationality should be a traitorous behavior.
I wish. I would have been married at 13 to a virgin bride then
Switzerland isn’t even Swiss anymore. 30% of the country is either immigrant or second or third generation arrivals
This.
Americans are only allowed to give birth in America,
Wrong dumbass. Read a book before commenting
I can understand a middle ground here where you are born in a country where your parents are both legal residents and thus acquire citizenship. Someone coming here on visa and giving birth to an American baby is retarded too
Shame. :(
Explain
only chuds think this is weird, you were born in a country, off course you belong there. much more than some guy who happens to be related to someone else, was never born there, never experienced the culture.
Does Brazil have any future? I would honestly have my gf give birth in either Brazil or Canada just so that the kid can have another citizenship
You were born there but raised by parents who don't even belong there. Who's the retard here?
You're myopic.
Brazil is a country where no ethnicity is connected to a culture, to the land or to society at large.
That's not how it works on most of the world, that's just lack of knowledge.
Does Brazil have any future?
I don't have any hope, people here are as retarded as they are in America, our politics are the lite version of yours.
NTA, would bet on Argentina AND URgay way more than Brazil.
i got turkish citizenship against my will cos my turk-born parents did all the paperwork when i was a kid, and now my government is threatening to deport me to a country i despise.
everything my parents have done for me has brought me further suffering.
can’t you just renounce o algo
I thought they had some kind of a military requirement to retain it — at least that’s what Dr. Oz had to do.
I don’t think Argentina has birthright citizenship though.
dual nationality should be a traitorous behavior
t. coping citizenlet
Being both Zigger and Niggermerican
No wonder your border is so porous.
I don't think Argentina has birthright citizenship
Unfortunately it has.
That's why so many peruvians and bolivians live there.
Oops, misquote or something.
You're a chud, if you're born somewhere and spend your formative years there, then you belong. Everything else is meaningless.
You learn this stuff from the natives and at school, dummy. These things are much bigger influences than your parents are, unless you're moving to some shithole comprised entirely of migrants.
shithole comprised entirely of migrants
Thats Brazil innit
you're just poland but upside down, shut up.
in the new world both apply. If your parents or grandparents were citizens, you are given citizenship.
Ius soli was invented literally because of the new world, that's just literal history, no country before the colonization of the Americas had Ius Soli, and most of the Old World still don't, because that's not how things work in countries that aren't made up entirely of migrants.
That's not chuddery, that's just a cultural difference that you might not understand because your point of view is biased.
yeah, jus soli was invented thanks to colonization and it's literally better, your point? please go to the old world at some point and see if anyone cares about their blood lines and ethnicity. if you're born in germany you would just call yourself german. the year is 2025, not 1500.
Yeah, let's ask some people ITT if they think that if someone who's parents aren't nationals was born in their country if they would and should be considered a national.
if you're born in germany you would just call yourself german
Like most of the turks that live in Germany and identify as Turks, instead of germans?
Like most pakis born in the UK, that identify as pakis, and not as british?
You're delusional.
Americans are only allowed to give birth in America, otherwise their kids don't get to be American.
That's not how it works, retard. Ted Cruz was born in Canada and he's a natural born American citizen because he inherited US citizenship from his father.
The US (and Canada, etc.) use both. American citizenship is passed down by blood too.
Everyone is entitled to their parents citizenship, even in countries where it's ius soli.
Yeah, let's ask some people ITT if they think that if someone who's parents aren't nationals was born in their country if they would and should be considered a national.
I don't need to ask because this is a possibility in most countries there, by law.
Like most of the turks that live in Germany and identify as Turks, instead of germans?
Why would anyone want to be a turk? Maybe they're crazy or it's the issue of migrant enclaves which i've mentioned already and agree that it's a problem.
You're delusional.
You're some race-obsessed weirdo, probably.
I don't need to ask because this is a possibility in most countries there, by law.
In most european countries, yeah, most of the old world is in Asia, where none of this applies, btw.
Why would anyone want to be a turk?
Your guess is as good as mine. But people do identify with their "home-country", specially in countries where the basis of it's identity is built on ethnicity. That's just how it is. Most people wouldn't treat a white person as an Indonesian even if he spoke and was an indonesian through and through.
You're some race-obsessed weirdo, probably.
No i'm really not, i feel like i was rude to you before, i'm sorry.
I don't think that those parameters should be applied to a country like ours, where people are of every colour and race, where everybody is here because their ancestors migrated here and etc.
But, trying to apply this kind of politics in countries where people do identify themselves with their ethnicity is only going to alienate the native population, as it already happens in most of Europe.
I believe that is unfair for us to apply our standards to them, and, as we can see, practices that enforce immigrants to be seen as nationals creates vast societal problems in older nations, and no wonder it does. They fought wars because of this exact problem (ethnic conflicts) 'till basically yesterday.
most of the old world is in Asia
Who cares? we weren't colonized by asia and no one wants to move there.
specially in countries where the basis of it's identity is built on ethnicity.
This isn't the case anymore, though. it's mostly Anon Babble chuds who are obsessed with ethnicity. No one would question your germanness if you were born there, they absolutely would if you just showed up one day, barely spoke the language and knew nothing about germans. Do you have family in europe? I do, the ones who were born there only speak a few words of portuguese and don't think of themselves as Brazilians.
They fought wars because of this exact problem (ethnic conflicts) 'till basically yesterday.
You fight ethnic conflicts because of people caring about ethnicity, which is exactly what you're trying to combat by adopting jus soli. Europeans migrate between their countries and they absolutely do not care about this as much as you think they do, this is the real driver in unity and avoiding conflict.
Unironically just change your surname to something like Smith or MacDougall and then renounce Turkish citizenship
What you retarded niggers don't understand is that the New World and the Old World are two very different places
Jus soli makes tons of sense in the New World, where almost everyone is at least partly descendant of settlers.
In the Old World, ethnogenesis has already happened thousands of years ago in most places.
I can't just larp as a Chinese person even though none of my ancestors ate rice and noodles, it would just be ridiculous. If i have a kid with a chinese woman, my kids may be chinese, but If i have a kid with a french woman in China, claiming the kid is chinese would just be ridiculous to everyone there.
You are not just a mind
I can't just larp as a Chinese person even though none of my ancestors ate rice and noodles, it would just be ridiculous.
You absolutely could if you were born there, doesn't matter how ridiculous you think it is right now because you're french. It's certainly less ridiculous than dropping a kid from america into china and expecting him to be chinese because he looks asian, he would be a displaced person and be completely lost, a complete alien. It's a matter of how you can integrate and navigate that culture, it has nothing to do with your appearance.
You're also picking the most extreme example to make a point when a ton of people here could be southern euro-passing and still have nothing in common with the culture, drop that person in italy and he's displaced the same way.
You're a chud, if you're born somewhere and spend your formative years there, then you belong. Everything else is meaningless.
tell that to koreans and filipinos born in japan. i dont think they got the memo! or the jeets born in the arab gulf
but If i have a kid with a french woman in China, claiming the kid is chinese would just be ridiculous to everyone there.
For the 1000th time, there's a difference between Chinese and Han. Chinese = everyone with Chinese citizenship, which includes all 56 recognized ethnic minorities/the unrecognized ones. Han people are just the most numerous and most recognizable. You've probably met hundreds of Chinese people in your life, but they've all been Han Chinese because they're 92% of the population/have the most money and can afford to travel.
One of the 56 recognized races is Russians. Yes, Russians who settled near the Imperial Chinese border/white Russians who escaped the covvil Civil War by settling in China are among the 56 races. There is a relatively large population of Russians who live in China. The younger generation speaks only mandarin now.
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Obviously French people aren't Russian, but your assumption that you can only be Chinese if you're a yellowed skinned slangy eyed Asian is totally incorrect and probably taken from some retard from Anon Babble. There are many vlogs on YouTube of westerners raising their children in China and they are perfectly accepted. You're assuming shit based on how people act in the west to minorities. That shit doesn't fly in other places.
The Filipino men can move into my house and get American citizenship by offering their dicks into my mouth as tributes. Yum! Banquets of Flip dicks!
That's cause they're a bunch of sexy ass Latino Asians.
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