After travelling there

You shall not make gashes in your flesh for the dead, or incise any marks on yourselves: I am the Lord

Nothing I hate more than religious retards who don't even properly follow their religion.

complains about someone bombing kids

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את מי אתה מצטט

pivots and changes topic

Doesn't change the fact you have millions of people under your control that aren't citizens of your country. Israel is the only country in the world that does that type of discrimination. Apartheid South Africa recognized its black population as citizens of the country. So did the U.S. China recognizes Tibetans as citizens of China when they got annexed. Israel want's its to have it's cake and eat it, which is unprecedented in history. Either ethnic cleansing, or integration. There are no other options (or withdraw to your U.N. recognized borders).

Yes

You can't occupy what's already yours, According to the law of uti possidetis juris when Israel was formed in 48', Under International law (One that armchair propogandists love to cite), It inherited the border of British mandate, Meaning both the Gaza Strip and West Bank were lawfully under Israel rule. Jordan occupied it after the war of independence until 67', When Israel recovered their rightful territory.

Israel

Armenia

Does he know?

(or withdraw to your U.N. recognized borders).

That would be ideal but they showed us exactly what would happen if we do that less than 2 years ago, its a total limbo, Palestinians don't want Israeli citizenship, Israelis don't want them as citizens, and if we give them their own state they'll just start another dumb war

using international laws to justify having an apartheid state in 2024 A.D.

See this way of thinking is exactly why the rest of the world see you guys as morons. Im not a fan of Arabs but what you people are doing to palestinians is beyond fucked up.
Give them some land and just call it a day ffs. I'd be crazy butthurt too if I had to live in a place where any moment a bunch of colonists could just come and bulldoze my house and kick me out, because a book from 3000 years ago told them so.

and if we give them their own state they'll just start another dumb war

OK, so what's the plan? Just keep things as they are now, in a constant state of war and tension? And wait for the moment where Arabs will outnumber jews in Israel 10:1? What's the plan.

international law only applies when it suits them. right now with their PM wanted for war crimes it doesn't and international law is antisemitic
also, what one of the main zionist of the 40's and first PM of israel had to say

Goldmann reported that Ben Gurion had told him in private in 1956:[76]

Why should the Arabs make peace? If I was an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Our God is not theirs. We come from Israel, it's true, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that?

and he was apparently born in poland, just like their current PM's father. even he agreed he'd be salty too if some poles kicked them out of their own land

we did give them land and they've given us nothing but terror and war

no but you have to give us everything at once right now or else we kill you

They don't want to live alongside us, they want to live in ALL of Palestine. even the Arabs we have inside Israel hate us and are waiting for the day they can stab us from within

Give them some land and just call it a day ffs.

Israel's sovereign territory has only shrunk since the year 2000
we withdrew from lebanon and it bit us in the ass
we withdrew from the northern west bank and it bit us in the ass
we withdrew from gaza and it bit us in the ass
at some point I can't help but wonder if the einstein's definition of insanity rings any bells for you guys, because its definitely ringing for israelis, but maybe its easy to talk when it isn't the blood of your countrymen thats being spilled.

OK, so what's the plan? Just keep things as they are now, in a constant state of war and tension?

what happens is not up to us, its up to them what kind of future they want and what kind of relationship they want to have with us, our actions are for the most part purely reactionary

And wait for the moment where Arabs will outnumber jews in Israel 10:1? What's the plan.

they already outnumber us by a lot more than that bub

Palis could become Israeli citizens and vote instantly if they just chose to lay down the arms. It is they who don't want to take part in Israeli politics.

international law only applies when it suits them. right now with their PM wanted for war crimes it doesn't and international law is antisemitic

You have no idea what you are talking about lmao

Does Europe need to drive the „Abrahamic religions” to extinction, in order to bring peace in the region?
Nobody will have to be killed off; you'd still wake up in the same countries, in the same societies, same family structures & customs, but only your religion would be deligitimized, discredited, and driven to extinction.

Do you want that?
Do you want Europe to destroy, without bloodshed, the religion(s) that are supposedly millennia old?

Please retreat to your internationally recognized borders so we can strike you again

LMFAO muslims are cartoonishly evil.

That doesn't change anything I just said. Tons of countries want to destroy other countries, this isn't new. Whether it's North/South Korea, or China/Taiwan, Armenia/Azerbaijan or Russia/Ukraine. What Israel is doing is unprecedented, and never been done before.

Sorry, not gonna sell out ourselves to appease suits in the UN
Nevermind the fact that what you said is factually false and the palestinians who live in the west bank in area A (the vast, vast majority of them) aren't under our control
I know its sad to see that despite Israel's best efforts a Palestinian state doesn't exist but thats just how it is, we've had enough suicide bombings in public spaces and buses to know its not a good idea

Nevermind the fact that what you said is factually false and the Palestinians who live in the west bank in area A (the vast, vast majority of them) aren't under our control

They aren't independent wtf is wrong with you deliberately conflating "autonomy" with "independence", don't you learn English in school? Or are you this retarded? Palestinians aren't citizens of Israel, nor are they allowed to be citizens of a country that represents them. I understand your logic (heard it a gazzillion times), but everything I said still stands. That Israel controls the lives of millions of people that aren't their citizens, and much worse than South Africa, U.S., and China

Can I get Jewish pussy if I go there?

I mean, they could've had independence and not just autonomy, but they chose suicide bombings over that, actions have consequences
You know whats more dehumanizing than what you accuse us of doing? infantilizing the palestinians instead of letting choose to do what they want and their own destiny and face the consequences of their actions, You don't get to speak for them and neither does anyone else other than them, and they've made what they want pretty clear.

Amazing what you can do with unearned money from another countries tax dollars.

The lengths israelis will go to justify ethnic cleansing is concerning

NOOOOO THE GYPPIES MUST BE ACCOMMODATED FOR OTHERWISE IT'S LE FASCISM

the arab shitholes around israel get aid too and they're still shitholes. almost like the problem is pisslam

you would know a thing or two about that wouldn't you?
what percentage of american citizens are native american?
what percentage of Israeli citizens are Palestinian arabs?

if the ICC were around during the days of the algerian war it would issue arrest warrants for all your gay national heroes

I like how you don't refute anything I said, but respond by "we have no choice". At least acknowledge the situation, and understand that people don't "unfairly" criticize Israel, and the standard whataboutism of "other countries do evil things too!", when in fact, no other country does. There are suicide bombers in Turkey from Kurds, and they are still citizens, and very much like to destroy the Turkish state. Same goes for the Uyghurs in China. Still given citizenship, but heavily restricted in their movement. Only Israel refuses to either integrate their respective hostile populations, and opts for ethnic cleansing.

There is no ethnic cleansing in any way, shape, or form, BUT there absolutely should've have been one years ago

Obviously the native americans deserved it

Nobody admits to ethnic cleansing retard. Not even after it's done. Give me one example at any point in history where there was an admission of ethnic cleansing/genocide. Not even the most blatant criminals admit it (Turkey, Germany, Russia),

Israel = Good
Anon Babbleestine = Bad
simple as

I didn't say 'we have no choice', I said the Palestinians should choose their own destiny and be ready to face whatever consequences those choices may bring, thats it.
Again, you keep bringing up the fact that we don't give them citizenship when they themselves don't want it, what are we supposed to do? force them into the Population and Immigration Authority's offices and make them go through the process of getting citizenship with a gun pointed to their head?
Also I find it fucking hilarious you try to minimize china's treatment of uyghurs, just the cherry on top in this dumb 'give them citizenship' rhetoric, You think kurds want Turkish citizenship? you think uyghurs want chinese citizenship? its literally forced upon them, and you're saying we should stoop to their level and start arresting them en masse and putting them in reeducation camps like china does? are you fucking demented?

Who talked to you demonic desert savage

If only we went full trail of tears like your founding fathers in all of their wisdom
We wouldn’t be having these problems

Give me one example at any point in history where there was an admission of ethnic cleansing/genocide.

Canada, the USA, Germany.

I love Israel, no matter how much propaganda I see every day obsessively trying to convince me otherwise.
It never worked and never will.

Civilized spitting.

Not while they were doing lol. Germany was forced after. US federal government never acknowledged anything, and Canada apologized for some atrocities, not an entire genocide.

and you're saying we should stoop to their level and start arresting them en masse and putting them in reeducation camps like china does?

If we did that he'd scream 'cultural genocide'
these people just want to complain and offer no solutions to the fundamental issue that palestinians will never agree to live side by side with us with a lasting peace

Again, you keep bringing up the fact that we don't give them citizenship when they themselves don't want it, what are we supposed to do? force them into the Population and Immigration Authority's offices and make them go through the process of getting citizenship with a gun pointed to their head?

Also I find it fucking hilarious you try to minimize china's treatment of uyghurs, just the cherry on top in this dumb 'give them citizenship' rhetoric, You think kurds want Turkish citizenship? you think uyghurs want chinese citizenship? its literally forced upon them, and you're saying we should stoop to their level and start arresting them en masse and putting them in reeducation camps like china does? are you fucking demented?

Again you are retarded. I said Israel must choose to either leave or give them citizenship, and compared the situation with Palestinians to other situations of oppression, and pointed out that as bad as these states were in their repression and criminality, they at least recognized the people they ruled to be citizens, albeit inferior, second class citizens. Israel can't even do that, which makes Israel's situation uniquely bad. I know this won't happen, and I know the reasoning behind it, and also choosing not to end the occupation.

do me a fucking favor and drop the genocide rhetoric already, no one is buying but retards

If we did that he'd scream 'cultural genocide'

It's kind of the opposite. Israel has absorbed more culture from the region than it has introduced. Jews are grossly outnumbered and can't impose their culture the same way Whites or Chinese people can.

Nobody claimed genocide from 1949 lol. Just since October of last year. Palestinians in Gaza are already at the 10% mark

Palestinians in Gaza are already at the 10% mark

damn interesting how their population grew in 2024 according to the world factbook, in fact, they have the 40th highest population growth rate! crazy, this genocide, I tell ya
Its the palestinians who must choose, not us, like I said, despite Israel's best efforts there is no Palestinian state

holy crap we're genociding ourselves

estimate from the CIA

This isn't a reliable source

They know more than most of us.

but the guys who said this crater was caused by a jdam strike and killed 500 people are reliable enough to you apparently, quite picky ain't ya?