Russian side of Manchuria

Russia is dangerously vulnerable to China in this region

Russian side of Manchuria

population 1kk or 1.5 at most across all of the territory

Chinese side of Manchuria

population 38kk

youtube.com/watch?v=eP0bx_8WTqo

Oh, it was in OP's post. I just don't understand what's wrong with it.

I wish I could know what Chinese REALLY think about Russia. Somehow I don't believe in this solely positive image of Russia they seem to have, as reported officially. I mean, why would they even like Russia, the whole history of Sino-Russian contacts until recently was Russians constantly meddling with Chinese affairs, trying to beat them, annex parts of their lands or at least exert political influence on China and its traditional subjects like Mongolia or Kazakhstan. And nowadays, China is so much ahead of Russia in terms of civilizational or economic development so it feels like "friendship" between France and Congo, no matter how good it looks on TV, you know you cannot be real friends or partners when there is such a big gap between two sides, the more developed party must look down on the other one.

I've seen a video by Chinese girl from China. She said that Chinese people view Russia positively and even flood the market with fake Russian products. Because there are tons of propaganda or just some other media shit like how we love them and view them as our strong ally and some other shit.
Their inner media space is hell of a weird.

What are the chances of balkanization once putin dies of old age?

instead of buying cheap farmland russians would rather rent in moscow or st petersburg

The slavs yearn for state slavery.

Unless it is forced from outside, probably none. Russia is generally a monoethnic country and minorities are really few in number except for small regions on the edge of the country. At best 2 or 3 small Caucasus republics can claim independence and that's all.

farmland

lol, lmao even. You know nothing. We grow crops on more suitable soil and places by climate. Chinese side is much better than Russian side for that btw.

Besides even if you look at the map with view from a satellite, people still grow something there, where they can.

If Kosovo can be independent with 1.5 million people why can't Tatarstan with 4 million

Because Kosovo has 1.5 million nationalists, how many tatars would want independence?

russia is neo-feudal so local rulers would want to keep power for themselves in case of central power crisis as it happened in most post soviet republics before

Siberian Republic (Grey)

Capital: Novosibirsk

Population: 30,017,208

Hahahaha holy mother of Christmas soy put your genitals into a blender you goddamned degenerate animal

so local rulers would want to keep power for themselves in case of central power crisis

They would push for a higher degree of decentralization but not actual independence because they know it would end up with civil wars and conflicts and they could easily lose their power and also their balls or head.
Not even in the 1990s, when Russia was economically and politically on its knees, there were any serious talks about balkanization of Russia, other than Chechenya (which is irrelevant and in fact many Russians themselves would want them go).

as it happened in most post soviet republics before

Not comparable because these post-soviet republics were ethnically non-Russian, meanwhile Russia is ethnically Russian (mostly). Russians want to live in Russia, generally.

they wanted before but Yeltsin managed to content them with increased autonomy which was striped recently together with the president of tatarstan title

farmland

Hahahahaha oh my sides what the spirit of the Halloween hahaha what the hell

They voted for independence in the 90s

they wanted

that's really a bit of a stretch, just because there were some pro-independence voices it doesn't mean the whole Tatar society wanted it or even that the majority of them did
after all, they did not take arms to fight for it when Putin decided to remove the autonomy, they just ignored all that fuss completely and lived their lives

how many formed a militia like the kosovans did and how many went and shot at cops and military like the kosovans did?
Totally different situation, the tatars already see themselves as russians.

mfw china somehow magically created farmland whereas russia cannot

wow china numbah one.

Not comparable because these post-soviet republics were ethnically non-Russian, meanwhile Russia is ethnically Russian (mostly). Russians want to live in Russia, generally.

lol Grozny had russian majority

They would push for a higher degree of decentralization but not actual independence because they know it would end up with civil wars and conflicts and they could easily lose their power and also their balls or head.

i can imagine something like mexican cartels but with natural recurses instead of cocaine and china as market instead of usa and even more armed and uncontrollable

are you retarded? why are you referring to people's will in russia's context?

lol Grozny had russian majority

so what, that's one city that barely mattered (especially in the 90s when it was an overgrown village, it only started to resemble a big city after Kadyrovs started pumping oil money into that), same like Kyiv historically had a Russian-speaking majority but it doesn't mean these people are pro-Russian or anything

i can imagine something like mexican cartels but with natural recurses instead of cocaine and china as market instead of usa and even more armed and uncontrollable

maybe, but still politically they will be one entity, same like Mexico is

why are you referring to people's will in russia's context?

because a military action is the only way people can show their real opinions in an authoritarian country like Russia, that's my point
in Chechnya they cared, so they went to war, in Tatarstan they didn't, so they just ignored that
that's why I don't believe in Tatarstan's independence, Tatars just don't care enough about it

very naive Chechnya happened because of mujahedin veterans who wanted to build on success after Afghanistan and money from Saudi

Kazakhstan had a Russian plurality when it became independent. Getting rid of them is pretty easy as it turns out, just enforce another state language and they will leave on their own, because there is nothing Russians hate more than learning a different language

same like Kyiv historically had a Russian-speaking majority

NTA, just wanted to say there were much more poles than russians in the Kyiv region in ~1850s

NTA, just wanted to say there were much more poles than russians in the Kyiv region in ~1850s

maybe in the region, due to presence of Polish nobility in their land estate, but probably not in the city proper (and he was comparing that to Grozny)
still foreign mujaheds wouldn't be enough if Chechens themselves wouldn't want to engage in that
and still, even if it was true then it only makes Tatarstan's independence less likely because Tatars are even less Muslim than Chechens and surely won't like mujaheds trying to impose radical wahhabism on them

Kazakhstan had a Russian plurality when it became independent.

but because of how the political system was made, they didn't have a dominant position in the local government

Getting rid of them is pretty easy as it turns out, just enforce another state language and they will leave on their own, because there is nothing Russians hate more than learning a different language

not true, they don't leave Baltic states or at least not in significant numbers. They kept leaving Kazakhstan because of really poor economic opportunities for them in the 90s and maybe hostile attitude from ethnic Kazakhs who saw Russians as a privileged economic class and wanted to take over their business.
Not to mention that 2-3 million Russians moved to Germany, a lot of them didn't know German and didn't even learn it to this day yet they still live there - because of economic opportunities.

They need some neo-Soviet guy to save them now

None.
The outside powers have always been protecting this country from balkanization, read a book.
They think we're white.

u mad bro?

The outside powers have always been protecting this country from balkanization, read a book.

I didn't say that it will happen, I only said that it might happen only if external forces wanted it. But I agree it's also unlikely that whatever outside forces will pursue balkanization of Russia even in favorable conditions, simply because it could wreak too much havoc and possibly result in nuclear weapons ending up in the hands of some unpredictable crazy dictators.

Best what the west and China can achieve is probably a weak, decentralized Russia but still united enough so it can be controlled as one entity, so basically the Russia from the 1990s.

Baltic Russians were never actually pressured to learn the local languages until recently, and now you can actually see their numbers decrease

nuclear weapons

It's rotten.

Name 5 Byzantine scholar who fled the city in 1453.

Russia must reestablish 1914 Borders + Alaska ASAP for the survival of the White race

Baltic Russians were never actually pressured to learn the local languages until recently,

the "non-citizen" category was already introduced in the 1990s and the main condition to receive the passport of the Baltic state is to learn its official language (which many Russians never bothered to do anyway)

and now you can actually see their numbers decrease

that's more due to emigration to the west for better economic opportunities rather than returning to Russia

the Latin-speaking west only became familiar with Plato around this time thanks to the books the Byzantine scholars brought while fleeing the city

1. Georgios Plethon Gemistos
2. Basilius Bessarion
3. Johannes Argyropoulos
4. Theodore Gaza
5. Manuel Chrysoloras

Negrosibirsk

capital

They would always just send their kids to Russian language schools which are closed now

local ruler feels that shit about to hit a fan

makes secret agreements with china

musters private army with recurses he has

little yellow men appears

dnr type republic established in short time

Tatarstan of course is not borders China but chaotic situation opens possibilities for many scenarios

I don't think it makes sense for China because if all of Russia is weak, then China can simply control all of Russia, why to limit yourself only to some small landlocked state?

also, this is just not how Chinese handle politics, simply. They don't do the little green men thing, they don't establish memerepublics, it's just not their style. I know you wish it could happen but it most likely won't, this is a Soviet school of geopolitics that is not endorsed and not followed by the Chinese.

China loves Putin and his cronies because they are corrupt and ineffective if Putin is no more then it means that somebody capable and pro western may come to power and it's would be a good timing to secure profits.

guys look two buildings

AHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

LAUGHING EMOJI

wat

Chinese people think they're great, if they erect a huge dildo in the name of their ruler.

I can always see chinese people talking about how they're gonna reclaim outer manchuria and tuva when I go to the chinese internet

when I go to the chinese internet

how do you even enter that? isn't the real chinese internet separated from the outer world by the great firewall?

chinese side of manchuria

filled with farms and 100X the population

because we modernized it.

You can browse their websites freely. It's the chinese that need to use vpn or whatever to access the outside world.

Inner Manchuria is actually known as the Rust Belt of China so that speaks volume of how bad Russia is by comparison.