How do you want your country, Hans?

How do you want your country, Hans?

Complete nonsense

Say no more

Cope, the HRE had sovl
Nationalism was a mistake

America can only dream of this type of decentralization

>How do you want your country, Hans?

>Complete nonsense

>Say no more

Most soulful borders in human history

Soul is when you pay 15 tariffs to move your goods because Herr Friedrich von Poopenfarten wants his cut to cross his 15k population shitty ”kingdom"

what did Voltaire say about this nation again?

Our municipal borders basically look like this

was a federation of countries, not a country

served the purpose it was meant to serve and existed for nearly a millennium

wasn't even the first collection of city-states and small principalities to exist, ancient Greece and medieval Italy were largely the same

I miss when plebs were just unaware HRE existed instead of regurgitating the same half-baked slop takes on it from YouTube and TikTokers

ancient Greece

Raped by Macedonia and later Rome

and medieval Italy

Raped by modern states

Yes you dirty merchant. Poopenfarten got these rights when the favourite teddy bear of Childric IV was lost in the woods and the local lord found it. Even today they have the Teddy bear festival to commemorate this in Poopenfarten.

it did not though

unironically yes, this era of intense balkanization before unification is exactly why Germany and Italy both have dozens of cities with global cultural significance and countries like England, France, and Poland are all just extended suburbs of their capitals

Nationalistards don't realise this but this is a peak of not only national but also human culture and SOVL

Rome declared that it wages war against Macedonia to liberate greeks in the first place and then they just became clients

learn to talk about history without ten layers of assfucking metaphors and then get back to me

Wonder if any autists have all the kingdoms memorized

Yes so what, you merchant kind need to be taxed so that you don't get too powerful and corrupt society with your schemes and degeneracy

Why was Germany the only place in Europe like this?

Bohemia was the only kingdom

it wasn't

Well aside from Italy

Well, technically there was also kingdom of Rome(Germany) and Italy, also Prussia after the war of the Spanish succession

Y'all niggas from the Prince-Bishopric of Münster are the real deal.

Duchy of Berg reporting in.
Kek but true.

Prussia after the war of the Spanish succession

Prussia is an interesting case as the Margraviate of Brandenburg (and the posessions of the Brandenburg line of the Hohenzollern in western Germany) were part of the HRE but the Duchy of Prussia in the east was not.

lasted over a millennium

seem pretty successful to me

this shit is so confusing

Ye that's a good detail, legalisticly it still made the Emperor the only King in the Empire, but the Emperor was the one who approved the way the title would work and also the fact that the main powerbase of the Hohenzollerns was still in Brandenburg made it just a legalistic detail not that much more, but still relevant de jure of course

Not really imo.
Friedrich III. of Brandenburg had the posession of the Duchy of Prussia (which was formerly a fief of the Polish Crown and thus outside of the HRE) and strove to become a king in status. He made a deal with Emperor Leopold I. to aid the Habsburg effort against Bourbon-Spain and in return was allowed to be crowned as King *in* Prussia - as such he became known as Friedrich I. of Prussia.

ancient Greece

Subjugated by Macedonia and later Rome

and medieval Italy

Subjugated by modern states
Is it politically correct enough for you?
Yet Germany only became comparable in power to France and England after unifying. Curious!

Emperor, meaning Austria was already a comparable size to the nations that you have listed, to the point where even France and England would team up to stop him like in the 30 years war

Was the "in" part necessary? That would be like forcing George I to call himself King in Great Britain

France and Italy were also like this in the middle ages

The *in* part comes from the fact that he didn't own all of Prussia, just the eastern half of it, and was mainly to avoid conflict with Poland (who owned the western half), as calling it *of* would have signaled that he lay claim to the rest of Prussia, whereas *in* allowed him to say "yeah I'm one of the kings in Prussia" (the other one being the polish king)

During the 30 years war it was also castille and Charles V lost anyways because half the GERMANIC princes told him to fuck off and in the end he was forced to accept that any prince could do whatever the fuck he wanted other than declaring war to the emperor

how do you want your country, hans?

i want to blasphemous, barbarian, and decentralized

excellent, what should we call it?

how about "holy roman empire"?

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In Poland it's just Krakow. Warsaw is relatively new as a major city. Popped up basically in 18th century and onwards.

You're mixing the events my guy, Charles V was already dead for almost a century when the 30 years war was going on

Wasn't it the capitol since the 1500s THOUGH?

Yes. In addition to what the other GermAnon said, it was also intended as a light slight against Friedrich III. to curb his royal enthusiasm.
Only when the Brandenburg-Hohenzollern gained Royal Prussia (part of the Polish Crown during the first Partition of Poland in 1772 was the title of the prussian king changed to "King of Prussia".

The Chicano seethe brigade has arrived I see

1596, so basically 17th century. And back then the city had like 5 thousand people.

It popped up in late 18th to around 250k which was very very large for that time period and this location. This is the period when it was called city of palaces.

i'm white.