Why did we Euros accept a mediocre Life and way of living compared to that of the US?

When i made this post i had the UK in mind when i was thinking about how Europeans live....

What kind of German doesn't like to verk and sveat und verk. No kind of German that's who.

trying to sneak little Pakistan into the winner side

lol

I would be normie in America

This. I work 35 hours a week, get 6 weeks of paid vacation a year, get paid 3k a month after tax and I'm more than happy with that deal.

Getmans work on average less than the french, the spanish, italians and even greeks.

are americans really so brainwashed that they think slaving is something good?

thinly veiled medjeet hate thread

i look like this

It wouldn’t fit on most European roads

kek why is this little dog barking? bongland is worse in every bad thing you accuse europe of.

It's a copypasta stupid roach.

No, we're more self-aware of our problems. Europeans are still in the "we're a superstate" delusion

one chance at life

not American

Feels bad man

Shut up cunt, your memes that Europe wants our protection LOL and praised our legacy which amounts to having the worst people in the world speak in our language and replace e us in our own country. I hate this horrible shithole

your memes that Europe wants our protection LOL

They do, their media is intentionally cozing up to us right now because they want our support in Ukraine

our legacy which amounts to having the worst people in the world speak in our language and replace e us in our own country

Same thing is happening in the continent, but they're also losing their native languages and culture

I hate this horrible shithole

You're welcome to leave, self-hating losers have little to offer us

Why did we Euros accept a mediocre Life and way of living compared to that of the US?

Living with niggers and spics? They're literally barely 56% white

56% was the stat in 2016. it's been almost 10 years since then

Legit because the most ambitious people leave for the USA and it has been this way since WW2, maybe earlier for Eastern Europeans.

why is there no big news article from CNN celebrating the new post-white america?

is USA this good?

If you’re ambitious? Yes. If it want to sit on the dole it’s bad.

Wdym by ambitious? I just want to work hard to get enough money to buy myself my dream house, I don't really have any crazy company idea and apparently finding a job is hard in the USA in 2025

i suffer in france

This is how much the average american makes with 40 hours + 10 hours of commuting and ZERO vacation time.

No way this is true

1. Historically "the european" has been a vassal, a pawn, a common rabble ruled by a king, a mere inhabitant of a medieval hive.
2. They leveled their countries to the ground in ww2 and the cheapest option to rebuild (thanks to american money) was to make housing small and pathetic.

Since when? Every american I see brags about making 100k easily

In Amerca there is nothing to do but work or be bored in your suburan pod

If only you knew how bad thinhs really are

Forums attract college educated middle class fags + people lie + 100k after tax is 60k which can barely afford an apartment these days

Ameripoors
Frawealths

I am in the poverty club as well, brotha

Da white euros be keeping us down

My post is saying the opposite of "I suffer".
Americans are like "enjoy your walkable cities and free healthcare" and yes, I do enjoy not having to use my car everyday to go to work and do groceries. I enjoy my quality of life and I wouldn't trade it for an extra 50k a year. Having free time for my personal projects and hobbies is worth way more than that.
Hahaha

talent.com/tax-calculator/New York-100000 this is wrong though it's 71K after taxes
And even if you have to pay rent you can still rent some shitty 10meters flat and save up much more money than if you were in another country
What the fuck is this retarded graph? French people aren't even close to making 2K5 per month median salary, it's nowhere near 140k per year lmao

Sometimes I feel like anti-european threads are either made by the lowest IQ on the planet, or simply screechers

humanslop issue

dependence on high population density is for subhumans

It's definitely true. America has a lot of rich people and the richest people are EXTREMELY rich, to a comically pointless degree. Just taking a quick look at wikipedia, at the start of 2025, of the top 10 richest people in the world, 8 are American. Collectively, those 8 people have a little over $1.5 TRILLION dollars. Yes, trillion.

This absurd amount of wealth concentrated in a handful of people severely fucks with averages. As an example, if we put those 8 guys in a (very large) room with 1 million unemployed Americans, the average wealth of the 1,000,008 people in that room would be $1.5 million dollars.

It's wealth not income macron

Also that tax calculator doesn't account for social security medicare automobile property tax property tax, sales tax sin taxes. Americans easily give up more than half their income but get nothing in return

It's wealth not income macron

Wealth in france is fucking biased since the old as fuck shitty boomers have all the housing and are rich as fuck because of it and the ridiculous prices we have in france
Younger generations have nothing

Median salary is 45k before tax, so roughly 2200 per month. But the graph shows median wealth, which includes savings, property ownership etc

No it's exaggerated, iirc the median salary is around 45 k$

well you didn't all, some of you emigrated to become us which left behind the ones who liked, approved of, or were content with the way things were
for good or for ill that's how it be
EGADS THAT WOULD TAKE AN HOUR BY HORSE

America uses their military and diplomacy to export inflation to the rest of the world. Since the US military is a rustbucket and their savior donald trump is collapsing their entire diplomatic house of cards, they will lose their privileged position and they will all be as poor as like, the average polack.

there was a whitepaper in the 70s-80s in germany discussing fibre optic rollout all the way back then. this was pushed back, and instead, HD TV was prioritised since it was more politically popular.
europe completely missed the bus on 21st century technologies and decided to squeeze as much as possible from the 19th-20th ones that had served them well for so long. ultimately, that business model can't last forever, and the piper has to be paid eventually.

Not really, they have way more land to sprawl their cities into. Unless you want everywhere in Europe to look like the Netherlands where it's one big sprawling urban mass, having suburbs as sparse as American ones isn't really feasible

btw these people even when they don't outright lie round up to the nearest higher 10 hours, include all drive time and time to get ready and their extra long special lunchbreak and use the busiest week of the year
every single fucking time
and they will shamefully admit it piecemeal if you ask for specifics in a good-natured way
that said if you want you can get a part time job on top of a genuinely 50 hour salary job and actually do this, it's just pointless
They're doing a pro strat called lying
Personally I work 24 hours a week doing unskilled labor and make around $1700/month. I pay no state tax, very little federal tax, and I have to pay social security/medicare/medicaid which is like a second federal assfuck tax and is actually most of the personal tax collected now, but since it's all """progressive""" (more socialist than UK's personal tax which shocks both euros and americans usually) I don't pay too much of that, and it's pre-taxed income so I actually keep that $1700/month.
So I make a little under $20k/year but I still have a portfolio because cost of living is low in my area.
The US has laws against renting spaces under a certain size as apartments because of psychological wellness bullshit so we really can't. It's some very Europe type bullshit even more than Europe, again, which is funny because you guys are always going on about unrestrained capitalism and no care for people. Some of our environmental and quality of living rules and stuff genuinely throttles the economy and work and living and personal finances so hard.
Our ERs MUST treat all patients even if they have no insurance and can't pay, and we can just go Chapter 7 bankrupt and lose nothing if we're poor and have racked up medical debts despite all of you AND our retard cityfags screeching we're killing people and have no healthcare.
You actually wouldn't believe some of the stuff we put up with from people who say to "catch up to Europe"

You're seething so hard you're spamming this same cope text all over. Lmao. What a pathetic little bitch.

i remember some euro was screeching to me about american food regulations
then when i actually bothered to look up what he was saying all of it had already been regulated or was in the process of being regulated

Even the Australians, when called out about their realpolitik on US beef imports, resorted to

w...well, your verification chain is....what if some of the beef were from Colombia...

Because that mad cow thing was like one cow originally from Canada decades ago.
It's not that US food safety is without problems, and I hope RFK smites the FDA only because I want it replaced with something much better, but Euros and by extension the larger world aren't ready for the realization that their food standards are also shitty and outdated and lax, and the reason they keep getting fatter isn't "Americanization" or American food products, it's the same reason we did: over-consumption of grains for an increasingly sedentary lifestyle.
Brits still judge the health of food by how cheap it is and will freak the fuck out at any large quantity of meat while shoveling down bread and fried potatoes all day long. It's so over if they don't wake up. At least they're retvrning to bikes o algo.

It's some very Europe type bullshit even more than Europe

Like parking spaces restrictions, minimum lot sizes, minimum driveway size or whatever else. Talking to Americans it quickly becomes evident they actually have a lot less freedom when it comes to the way they live but chalk it up to their way being the best or that they actually like it. No doubt some do, but do they like it enough to put up with an HOA and all matters of restrictions? Do they actually like to get stuck in traffic two hours a day? Would they be that opposed to using public transit if it was clean, properly designed and offered good service?
The US isn't more or less capitalist than western Europe to be honest, businesses have the same level of restrictions.
In fact I had yo go through the bother of doing paperwork for the US to open a patreon account and it was way harder than opening a business here. Here you just say "here I opened a business, here's what it does" and that's it.

ignore the point

BUT IF AMERIKKKANS ARE SO FREE THEN WHY....

Stop shilling more socialism and taxes and "free" things then you retard faggot holy shit acknowledge the hypocrisy of your indoctrinated beliefs, don't just jump to the next America Derangement Syndrome topic

this is such a ridiculous generalization it becomes meaningless
measuring civil liberties in general bestowed by the government american citizens have objectively more freedom
now in other regards it differs so drastically from state to state, urban or suburb, rural or urban, that it's just meaningless
if you want maximum freedom by fucking off into some woods then america has more space for that then european countries

it probably is true, but it's extremely dishonest.
is this including children?
retirees?
women/moms who don't work?
disabled?
prisoners?
it doesn't even say what kind of income it's referring to. household income? tax adjusted income?

that pic

NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION

We could've all been living in giant McMansions

Protip: Americans aren't all living in giant McMansions, in fact the restrictive zoning and building laws they have which force a disproportionate amount of homes to be like that is why so many of their cities have housing crises. You're also drawing a false equivalence here, a smaller run down apartment isn't comparable to a big detached single family home. That would be more like a large 3+ bedroom apartment in a building with soundproof walls.

ive been cursing for years why we'd rather keep building these shitty houses instead of building cheap apartment buildings
i literally dont think it'd even be that hard to solve the housing crisis
all it'd take is speed up permits, readjustment of goals and mindset, and bringing in some foreign construction companies
but NOOOO
americans are so insistent on these houses and large apartments
it's the same thing with college
there literally is no will to make college less expensive even though it wouldnt even be that hard

Are Danes all VPN abusers? I've genuinely never seen a Dane who wasn't an abhorrent poster.

Finland and French flags are worse

I'm not sure you even read my post. I'm genuinely confused what you are talking about here.
I don't know precisely which civil liberty the US has that would make it more free but I'll just say on that topic that I've had Americans say the exact opposite. I know each state is different so that's why I'm not talking about rights. I was rather commenting on how depending on where you live you might be restricted in how you live, and how some americans dismiss that as an inherent restriction to their freedom.

Homeowners in the US have a vested interest in barring development to inflate the price of their properties so they get deeply involved with local politics which is where most of these decisions get made. Non-owners participate less and also easily fall for anti-development talking points from the left (muh gentrification), right ("they" want to destroy our idyllic suburbs o algo) and center (it's about making poor grandpa pay more taxes and/or lose property value, nevermind that he's well-off homeowner with a lifetime of accumulated wealth).

Why is Euro hours so completely filled with terminally online Euro wage slaves who worship my cunt? You faggots don't even have the context of living here. It's really only good if you want to have a lot of money to consoom. And even then it's not as better as you make it out to be.

he thinks he has representation

It's really only good if you want to have a lot of money to consoom

Money solves most problems if you're high IQ though. Yurop is better if you're low IQ since the nanny state takes care of your basic needs, basically the US has a higher skill floor and skill ceiling.

Chasing money, possessions and happiness are retard goals for soulless people. Going for the "muh make it bigger" mentality you have is even worse, a subhuman mindset and a guaranteed lifetime of emptiness.

fuck them puerto ricans and samoans thoughbeit

t.never left his favela

From my experience if you're miserable in one country you'll just be miserable in another. Happiness unfortunately comes from within, despite all the bullshit we're sold by people wanting us to buy their crap.

i think youre so right
i couldnt have put it better myself
im genuinely curious you lived here before or you just like to follow american politics?

america has stronger freedom of speech laws, gun ownership laws, stronger property rights, jury trials, right to a free press, protection against search and seizures, and double jeopardy protections
and there's probably others im forgetting but america has the constitution and bill of rights and europe or france doesnt have that
in general regulations are less oppressive here than they are in europe
in america there is more space and there is more of a "western" (as in old west, like frontier culture) culture so you can take more advantage of space
taxes are generally lower here than they are in europe
in america the power is more localized than the highly centralized states of europe
the president too is a lot weaker than in lots of other countries, more of a balance of power

jury trials

Horrible practice.

constitution

Every country has it.

bill of rights

Not an advantage or even relevant in any way.

centralized states of europe

Not a rule.

president is weaker, balance of power

lmao, retard

if you're miserable in one country you'll just be miserable in another

Not everyone has depression. Immigration wouldn't be popular if many people didn't report an improvement in their situation. I do agree that it doesn't fix everything magically and you have to put effort into it, but for instance I'm moving to a different house soon and I'm pretty sure that I will be happier there than with my current shitty neighbors.
Haven't lived there. It's a combination of being an Americanophile, having family and friends over there and having an Amerifat girlfriend right now, on top of being one of those autists who browse the Anon Babble board out of a genuine interest in world politics and geography. I'm retarded enough to actually derive some enjoyment from learning about inter-provincial Canadian trade barriers and the industrial output of the Ottoman Empire in WW1.

what’s with all these glowies lately

It's honestly all personal preference. For me money is just a means to an end. My goal in life is to be able to travel around visiting my friends in Japan, Singapore, and various Euro cunts as well as the few I have here. To that end money is only as useful as the time I have to use it. Never wanted to own a bunch of things, or sit around at 60 and let my mind and body waste away as I mindlessly consume like half our boomers do.
Maybe some people who want that life would find happiness here though.

why not

The ease in making money in the US can help you achieve that lifestyle with less effort than in most other countries though. It's kind of crazy how professions that only require like 1-2 years of specialized training in your cunt can easily land you a job making like 90k a year, and if you're smart you save and invest a large portion of that.

I don't know the details of your laws but we have these things too. We can freely express ourselves, we own guns, we own property and all that. I'd have to be a jurist to pick apart the differences and I'm sure if you picked apart all if these individually you'd find some areas where US citizens have more personal liberties, especially as we'd move from state to state. I know for a fact I own firearms that would be illegal or require specific paperwork in some US states, for example.
That being said we do have a constitution. And when it comes to the US president he is extremely powerful, the US is a presidential system and having a balance of power does not change the fact that he is the main driving force behind US policies. Only France comes close to this kind of a system, virtually all other European countries are parliamentary. In these systems, the president has very little power. You never hear of the German president for instance, because he's (almost completely) useless.
Even by non-western stamdard the US president is a very powerful office. The only difference between the US political system and that of, say, Russia is the existence of this balance of power and a strong belief in democracy.

Oh...no? A 20 and 30 minute drive, aaaah lol

youre dumb
you should learn from this brazilian flag
maybe it's cause both of us grew up in the "new world" and there's something that disconnects us from the old

Brimstone of obsession

yuros can go to jail for hate speech or deny the holocaust

but some american homes have HOAs

cuckold cope

There's a different barrier to achieving goals here though. Usually a higher financial one due to costs. My goal for example is a lot more time consuming and costly due to that. And since my goal requires both time and (even more) money it sort of defeats the point of the higher wages.
And then there's the case of having to deal with American lifestyle in the meantime, which is pretty self-defeating towards one's health. Literally can live the same lifestyle overseas and lose weight while here I end up with all sorts of health issues.

for every guy with a mcmansion and a giant truck there's 5 crack/fentanyl homeless zombies with no chance of ever bouncing back from the bottom
be grateful for what you have

youre dumb

In what way?

slave smug about his slavery

Beyond cringe, just grim.

Your demographics are irreversibly fucked

As opposed to whom, ChatGPT?

The US dollar is tanking. Soon you'll be earning more

VGH I KNEEL...
EVROPA'S MOST ARDENT DEFENDER...

they really believe they'll be accepted as euros someday if they keep slurping enough semen kek

i am very concerned about the state of the european semiconductor industry

Turks? In MY union?! No way!

why cant we all just get along mate

america is not a country, it's a bunch of international antihuman corporations with a military, the people there have no say just serfs
europe is better but not by much
capital is out of control

brother
freak

apparently finding a job is hard in the USA in 2025

It’s really not, you can get a job in a factory here and start out making $21 an hour with no experience

turk diaspora kek

Move to South Carolina and get a job at Michelin North America

why cant we all just get along mate

We tried that for decades. We were one of the EU's biggest contributers and in return they treated us like we were vermin. Fuck them.

Since the US military is a rustbucket

We have 11 nuclear powered aircraft carriers in service and 3 under construction. Europe has one in service and China has one diesel powered one under construction.

They

Who is they? Genuinely curious what were the actual gripes of the Brexit movement because it was only portrayed as a big chimpout around a red bus or however the migrants are welcomed.

You know their houses and cars are bigger because they live fucking far away from everything right?
You can have that in Europe, but you won't

I don’t know why you people bring up HOAs all the time like they’re some draconian measure enforced by the government. It’s literally a civil contract that the homeowners themselves put in place to protect their property value and keep the neighborhood clean. It’s essentially a leftover remnant of segregation.

You need a C category driver's licence for vehicles above 3500 kg in Europe.
It's for small trucks
Cyber truck simply wouldn't sell, because nobody is.going to wast money getting that licence just to own a cyner truck. Either Tesla makes it smaller or, it ain't happening brah.

Americans just chat a load of shite. It's all nonsense. You can assume whatever they're saying is the opposite of reality. They're called septics for a reason.

it's fascist victim grievance reflexes

treat me better ME ME ME i am superior but a victim too i deserve better treatment

it's all that is, there's no reason to their actions

chimpout

rightoids have the politics of the chimps in the jungle, very accurate description
congrats on btfo'ing le pen btw

We can freely express ourselves

France criminalizes hate speech under several legal frameworks, primarily the 1881 Press Law and the Penal Code. These laws prohibit public speech, writings, or actions that:

- Incite discrimination, hatred, or violence against individuals or groups based on ethnicity, religion, race, nationality, sexual orientation, or disability.

- Defame or insult groups or individuals on these grounds.

Penalties can include fines (up to €45,000) and imprisonment (up to one year), with harsher punishments for incitement to violence. The laws apply to various platforms, including online content, and are enforced by bodies like the CNIL (data protection authority) for digital violations. France also monitors hate speech through the DILCRAH (Interministerial Delegation to Fight Racism, Antisemitism, and Anti-LGBT Hatred).

After WW2 continental Europe turned against England and spent 60 years telling us stuff like

You're the ugliest people in the world

You have no class

You have no culture

Your country is disgusting

Your food is inedible

Your women are sluts

Your tourists are the worst

Your football fans are the worst

You're evil because of the British empire or something

You're not allowed manfucaturing industry because only Germany, France and Northern Italy are worthy in the EU reicht

it's no coincidence that the English working class were the demographic that voted Leave the strongest, because Europeans treated them much worse than say, Scotland.

I will move to America.
I will live in the suburbs.
I will have a white wife.
I will have a massive blonde family.
I will exercise the 2nd Amendment.
I will drive a big car.
I will support Trumpism.

I don’t know why you people bring up HOAs all the time like they’re some draconian measure enforced by the government.

It's only you who read it that way

Homeowners themselves put in place to protect their property value and keep the neighborhood clean

We get that, but it's not necessary. Property value goes up with or without HOA.
As you put it, it's mostly to keep nigs out.

lol is a prime example why rightoids are vile lobotomites entirely driven by negative emotions if they could they'd genocide people over jokes and slights but all they could do was manipulate people to vote brexit instead
freaks

I'm not a facist, I'm not right winger and an even bigger spoiler: I'm not English either I'm Welsh

the EU referendum was a primarily a revolt by the English working class, so you have to look at their grievances to understand why they voted the way they did

60 years might be a bit much. Most people here actually like the UK, it's a cool place woth fish and chips, cool rock and punk music, funny tv shows and cultural icons like Mr. Bean or wallace and gromit etc
As always I think the hate you see online is mostly thirdies hating what they can't have. Most euros are at most ambivalent towards England or are pro-english, which is part of the reason why they wanted you in my n the first place and why their reaction to Brexit eas so strong and frankly excessive.

if you're uninformed and uneducated you're working class but if you have an education you aren't working class

no, that's a fascist lie to divide the working class and to manipulate the lumpen who are poor and uneducated
500 people own the entire world and your grievance is with your neighbor, moron

and yet you people come here in droves during holidays

I don't debate with communists so please stop replying to my posts

i am a communist
people like you voted for brexit but it had nothing to do with the EU it was just all we allowed you to do
if you were allowed to lie, you lie
if you are allowed to take people's rights and posessions (for example with deporting) you gladly will
if you people were allowed to set up death camps you would like always
that's what the brexit vote was about really, advancing the fascists dream of extending the overton window, had nothing to do with the EU
the trump maga fascist monoculture americans have been exporting is finally failing like in canada, it will in the Uk too
enjoy it freak

I think is the juice fault

Going from vooting Tory.to.vooting Lanour, pretty much tells.me that no, you're not self-aware at all.
You're just.like Yurop, easily duped and easily manipulated

statistics

we dont debate with fascists, we hang them
day of the rope is coming for you little shit

Fascists and commies are worth one another. You’re both totalitarian ideologies.

American zoomers are just as poor as european ones

China and the US has for the last 40 years had an economic alliance that's built on the US buying boat loads of chinese goods in return for China buying US debt. This relationship has let both countries get away with massive trade imbalances and currency manipulation. No other country could get away with importing so much and exporting so little while still having a currency with such a high value as the US. It's been held up by China keeping the american consumer strong through buying their bonds. It's mind bogling why Trump would seek to ruin this relationship. No one else would do this for them