NMP (Not my problem)
NMP (Not my problem)
Enola Gay
Under the same circumstances – and the key words are "the same circumstances" yes, I would do it again. We were in a war for five years. [sic] We were fighting an enemy that had a reputation for never surrendering, never accepting defeat. It's really hard to talk about morality and war in the same sentence. In a war, there are so many questionable things done. Where was the morality in the bombing of Coventry, or the bombing of Dresden, or the Bataan Death March, or the Rape of Nanking, or the bombing of Pearl Harbor? I believe that when you're in a war, a nation must have the courage to do what it must to win the war with a minimum loss of lives.
do what it must to win the war with a minimum loss of lives.
yes by vaporizing hundreds of thousands of civilizans
Quicker than a land invasion.
yes, few american lives lost :^)
It seems that in america, as long as you're cocky about it you can say the most evil and idiotic things and people will agree with you. It's quite the culture clash to us Europeans.
Over the alternative, fewer Japanese too. Resulted in anime and manga in my timeline too
Define ‘evil’ things to say.
yes, japanese women and children would fight until their deaths, they are that barbaric, the USA had no other option
it's awful but he's right
yes, America is entitled to vaporize entire cities
didn't read
and japan is entitled to massacre countless chinese cities?
Two wrongs don't make a right.
No, but America is entitled to do so. America is the greatest nation on earth.
america helped japan rebuild which was the right. if they were treated like germany after ww1 there would of been another war
Well I don't care about that. All that matters is that I got mangas, manhwas, and manhuas as a result
Yes, that justifies vaporizing two cities
Read about operation ketsu-go you gay weeaboo retard
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So many potential rice bunnies... gone
why are you justifying the rape of nanking comfort women and the bataan death march. america even spared tojo when by all accounts he should of been executed for war crimes
I am not justifying anything, all I am saying is that US being an exceptional country can do anything because anything the US does is moral and right
i never said that. vietnam and iraq were conflicts that never should of happened. i feel bad for all the brave soldiers that lost their lives there.
i never said that.
You don't understand, war is always bad, but the USA is not the worst, the US does everything it does to assure a better world for everyone. That is why it bombed japan twice
nukes are so hecking evil and indefensible i can't believe they ever did that
firebombing of tokyo? never heard of it but it probably wasn't that bad, they should've kept doing that instead of using nukes
why do tankies act like america nuked a neutral nation?
Japan was literally FORCED to commit atrocities all over Asia and bomb Pearl Harbor because the evil Chinese refused to surrender to the invading Japanese forces and the American devils refused to support the jap war effort with resources. Then in the end the innocent Japan get nuked and painted as the bad guy, truly there is no justice in the world.
Yes
brazillians should try to improve their crime ridden shithole instead of defending imperial japan
Yanks could've just blockaded Japan from all sides and they'd go back to the stone age. Where would they get their petroleum or iron from? The islands are more barren that a 2025 white woman
Kek. This man knows what's important.
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or the bombing of Pearl Harbor?
Why do Americans compare an attack on a military base between two countries who almost everyone could tell were about to go to war, with the bombing of cities full of civilians?
You know what would have ended the war quicker? Accepting Japan's conditional surrender.
yet people rag on about israel bloody hell
war is war
soldiers are just civilians carrying out orders
npcs can't come up with any logical answers to that don't sound like peacenik hippie homo "no war!!!", and on top of that, japan tried to develop nukes during ww2
beat the shit out of japs
erm can we just like forget about all this
Lmao fuck off pajeeto davido whatever the fuck you are
Civilians? One jap is worth 10 mutts
dropping a nuke on civillians is somehow being courageous
Amerifats are comically evil.
He's right, you need the courage and balls to go through with it.
Evidenced by gigantic pussies like you who seemingly would not.
A land invasion would have seen far more death, bloodshed, and brutality than the bombs. The Japanese would not surrender, so it had to be done.
You wouldn't kill a handful of orcish civilians to end a war because it's le evil? You pussy.
Psychopaths
Where was the morality in the bombing of Coventry, or the bombing of Dresden, or the Bataan Death March, or the Rape of Nanking, or the bombing of Pearl Harbor?
Erm sweetie that's WHATABOUTISM
America didn't HAVE to invade Japan, Japan's entire navy was destroyed by 1945, Japan didn't pose any threat to the American mainland or Hawaii
Japanese soldiers committing some of the worst atrocities and war crimes imaginable against the Chinese and Filipino people (among many others)
"..."
American military dropping two bombs on an enemy country to end a bloody war
"NOOOOOOO! THIS IS SO HECKIN MORALLY WRONG!"
Why do you incorrectly assume I don't also hate the atrocities committed by the Japanese empire?
The only conditional surrender offer I can find a reference to with google is the one that came after the atomic bombs were dropped.
Are you talking about Japan's negotiations with the Soviet Union?
Potsdam declaration called for the unconditional surrender of Japan
On 27 July, the Japanese government considered how to respond to the Declaration. The four military members of the Big Six wanted to reject it, but Tōgō, acting under the mistaken impression that the Soviet government had no prior knowledge of its contents, persuaded the cabinet not to do so until he could get a reaction from Moscow. The cabinet decided to publish the declaration without comment for the time being.[36]:632 In a telegram, Shun'ichi Kase, Japan's ambassador to Switzerland, observed that "unconditional surrender" applied only to the military and not to the government or the people, and he pleaded that it should be understood that the careful language of Potsdam appeared "to have occasioned a great deal of thought" on the part of the signatory governments—"they seem to have taken pains to save face for us on various points."[77
Oh, you mean the US should have offered asked Japan to make a conditional surrender. I think that's a fair point, but when you say "Accepting Japan's conditional surrender," that implies that Japan made an offer. I was a bit confused.
Ignore the word "offered." I had a stroke while writing.
Look up how many civilians died on Okinawa and the reasons why it was so high and then keep in mind that the Japanese war plan at the end of the war was for everyone living in the home islands to do the same
ye but jews are easy to blame though
1. "Because there are wrong bombings of cities, I also do it".
2. "Bombing cities with zero defense armament killing 200.000 civilians is correct".
This bastard should have been killed by the relatives of the japs that were bombed. It is coward to presh a button from an airplane and kill 200.000 people. I wonder what he would think if he saw the pictures of each of the victims that he killed.
America is controlled by Jews, it's no wonder that Americans are as bloodthirsty as jews
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Just fucking die
When americans talk about Pearl harbor, they talk about the movie version of events from 2001. where Japan bonbed a hospital and other things. When that never happened
I find it genuinely disgusting that yanks compare Pearl Harbour with actual war crimes. No, bombing a military structure during a war is not comparable to mass murdering civilians. Just as the Japanese imperial empire died, it's damn well time the United States of America imperial empire was also destroyed.
Death to America.
But continuing to just starve you all would have killed way more of you than the bombs (specially as your retarded military government wouldn't suffer it as much as the civilians and could just refuse to surrender until invaded or being scared of vaporization)
So allow food ships to enter Japan
This
not allowed to bomb your enemy
not allowed to attack them by land through invasion
not allowed to starve them into submission
Lmao, be realistic, nigga. You basically want the amerifats to just let you not lose. You were defeated and even the bombs were almost not enough to make your dumbass army leaders to admit it and come to the table (even after two bombs some fags still wanted to kidnap the emperor away to avoid surrender and keep fighting)
200k civilians is the same as 2k militaries o algo
>not allowed to attack them by land through invasion
I never said that, America avoided this option.
>not allowed to bomb your enemy
>not allowed to starve them into submission
Murdering civilians is evil and a warcrime.
It was the invasion of Manchuria by the Soviet Union, who Japan had hoped would mediate a favourable peace agreement between Japan and the allies, that led to Japan's surrender. The atomic bombings were evil acts of murder.
LOL japanese got nuked by some guys in a plane called Enola GAY lmao
It was the invasion of Manchuria by the Soviet Union, who Japan had hoped would mediate a favourable peace agreement between Japan and the allies, that led to Japan's surrender
Nonsensical revisionism by those critical of the US (including japanese hypernationalists) to "judge" them for their supposedly unnecessary actions. The USSR was just the final nail in the coffin of complete destruction of Japan -which was now assured by the seemingly unlimited supply of new absurdly destructive bombs
I never said that, America avoided this option
Because it would have cost more lives (including more civilian lives), you ridiculous future chuo-cider
Because it would have cost more lives (including more civilian lives)
Murdering civilians doesn't save civilians. This is the same evil logic of the Russian military murdering Ukrainian children in missile strikes on schools to get the Ukrainian government to surrender.
What if the Japanese government never agreed to surrender? Would America have nuked every Japanese city? That would have resulted in far more civilian deaths than operation Overlord.
Murdering civilians doesn't save civilians
It wouldn't be murder but killing in defense during the invasion (+ starvation due to internal japanese logistics being disrupted). Blame your stupid government for deciding to "arm" everyone they could in the hopes of defeating american morale.
What if the Japanese government never agreed to surrender?
If the central government didn't agree to surrender, the US would have invaded and used their limited supply of nukes for strategic (and sometimes important tactical) objectives; if they didn't still didn't surrender afterwards, they would have needed to create temporary local administrations in conquered territories to manage and care for the surviving civilians (and probably would have helped the USSR invade from the north; if stuff got bloody enough) until someone with enough authority did or they achieved the total conquest of the islands.
Also, the army dumbfucks who controlled the government wouldn't have allowed the risk of Hirohito and the rest of the imperial succession line being vaporized if they didn't surrender, which is why the second bomb forced their hand (after they thought the US only had the capabilities to build one in a meaningful- to the war- amount of time)