Do Americans consider Native Americans to be "American"?

Do Americans consider Native Americans to be "American"?

They're part of what america is

They are the real Americans imho

To be a "real" American you should either be White or Black and also speak with an American accent. Everyone else is a hyphenated American
Most Americans have never met a Native American before and when they do speak of them it is with an element of "otherness"

I finished the original prey recently, it was kind of shit but the opening scene in the bar was absolute burgerkino

Yes

Columbus:

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Good question desu
Here in Canada they often don't consider themselves "Canadian" in the same way whites and immigrants do.
They're not the same down in the USA so I can't speak to their impressions but I am curious.

If you leave the coastal states you see a lot more Native Americans, for example the Northern MidWest.

They pretty much don't exist in the northeast, I guess NY has some but they mostly just sell cigarettes. I don't really think about them at all.

Minnesota Lt. Gov. Peggy Flanagan said Thursday she will run for the U.S. Senate in 2026, the first Democrat to jump into what could be a crowded field to replace outgoing Sen. Tina Smith.

Flanagan made her announcement within a few hours after Smith, a fellow Democrat, said she would not seek re-election next fall. Smith’s decision set up an open race for one of the state’s two Senate seats for the first time in nearly two decades.

“I love Minnesota and my intention is to run for the United States Senate and continue to serve the people of this state,” Flanagan posted on social media.

She could face a potentially crowded field of Democrats, including U.S. Rep. Ilhan Omar, whose office said she’s exploring a run. U.S. Rep. Angie Craig and Minnesota Secretary of State Steve Simon have also been encouraged to run, sources said, and Gov. Tim Walz hasn’t ruled out a try.

“She uses her voice to fiercely defend the people of Minnesota,” she said.

Flanagan, a former state legislator, has twice been elected lieutenant governor alongside Walz, who is also considering a third campaign for governor.

Flanagan grew up in Saint Louis Park, Minnesota, an inner-ring suburb of Minneapolis. She is a citizen of the White Earth Nation. She got her start as a community organizer organizing the urban indigenous community, including for U.S. Senator Paul Wellstone's 2002 reelection campaign. Flanagan was elected to and served on the Minneapolis Public Schools Board from 2005 to 2009. In 2015, she was elected to the Minnesota House, representing a section of Minneapolis's western inner-ring suburbs.

I don't think immigrants from overseas who live in coastal enclaves have a say on who is or isn't a "real" American.

Canada was the name of a specific Native American village.

Very obviously not. In fact their existence is marked by the fact that they decided to not become Americans and instead live their own little separate larp life on reservations. Most indigenous assimilated into America. "Native American" is a deliberately kiked semantics game term to deny actual Native Americans (the first Americans) their roots and birthright.

he recorded a word they had used to refer to their home: "They call a town, Kanata" (Canada).[5] When he and his crew stayed over the winter, they were effectively saved by the Stadaconans, who knew how to prepare for them a Vitamin C-rich broth as a cure for scurvy that had developed among the Cartier's crew, killing a quarter of them.[6]

The only based americans (with cajuns)

For over 300 years the word American exclusively referred to Native Americans. The colonists called themselves English. If their slaves were freed, they were not called Black Americans, they were called Black English.

I doubt it. They had myriad terms for them. Indian, redskin, red man, savage, etc.

that’s just my uncle from Suzhou

Native Americans are the real Americans, all other "Americans" are foreign squatters.

stop seething pvt. gomez. Being 10% native doesn’t mean you’re native too

People like H. P. Lovecraft were very Anglophilic and criticized "Americanisms". Maintaining their English identity was a losing battle.

I'm not American, and being part Native American does give you a claim to belong in America, the land of your ancestors for more than 14,000 years. Non-Native Americans aren't really American.
You've got that backwards, it's Kiked to support the JewSA over the rightful, original inhabitants of America, the Amerindians.

Today anyone can be an American.

What can you do about it? They’ve been wiped, they lost, and the ones that remain are christian cucks. stop seething since you can’t do anything about it.

In the hundreds of years between English and American, there was a transition term that was used for several generations, it was called English-American.

He literally lost that fight like 120 years before, he would have been a Loyalist. The founders wanted a new course and identity.

To be honest, not really. Not out of hatred, they just feel like a totally different people.

The founders wanted a new course and identity.

They just wanted to keep their wealth and to expand westward to obtain more wealth, genociding and conquering more Native Americans in the process.

"That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth".

-Benjamin Franklin

Why did even liberals start buying into this blood and soil business?

These aren't mutually exclusive things that were just said anon

Because they are and they made the deliberate choice to be, you can't simultaneously avoid the American nation while claiming you are American. They even have their own language and terms for the land they live on. It's like saying the Sentinalese are Indian.

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"Freedom" was just an excuse for the American founding fathers.

If you look at the history of democratic-republic uprisings against monarchs, that is the case every single time. It isn't a people's rebellion, it's a noble rebellion against the monarch under the pretense of "freedom" and "democracy." They then seize a larger share of power in the new paradigm.

The term Five Civilized Tribes was applied by the United States government in the early federal period of the history of the United States to the five major Native American nations in the Southeast: the Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Muscogee (Creek), and Seminoles.[1][2][3] White Americans classified them as "civilized" because they had adopted attributes of the Anglo-American culture.[4]

Examples of such colonial attributes adopted by these five tribes included Christianity, centralized governments, literacy, market participation, written constitutions, intermarriage with White Americans, and chattel slavery practices, including purchase of enslaved Black Americans.[7][8] For a period, the Five Civilized Tribes tended to maintain stable political relations with the White population. However, White encroachment continued and eventually led to the removal of these tribes from the Southeast, most prominently along the Trail of Tears.

They were expected to use draft animals and to give up maize as a main crop and instead raise wheat and cotton. The women were to become housekeepers, caring for children and weaving cotton for clothing. The Indians were also expected to acquire slaves and use them like their White plantation neighbors did.[3]

The word "civilized" was used by White settlers to refer to the Five Tribes, who, during the 18th and early 19th centuries, actively integrated Anglo-American customs into their own cultures.[14] Sociologists, anthropologists, and interdisciplinary scholars alike are interested in how and why these native peoples assimilated certain features of the alien culture of the White settlers who were encroaching on their lands. Historian Steve Brandon asserts that this "adaptation and incorporation of aspects of white culture" was a tactic employed by the Five Nations peoples to resist removal from their lands.

The Five Tribes generally adopted cultural practices from Americans that they found useful. Tribal groups who had towns or villages closer to European-descendant Americans, or interacted more with them through trading or intermarriage, took up more of such new practices. Those towns that were more isolated tended to maintain their traditional cultures.[20] George Washington promulgated a doctrine that held that Indian Americans were biologically equals, but that their societies were inferior. He formulated and implemented a policy to encourage civilizing them, which Thomas Jefferson continued and expanded.[21]

The tribes of the Southeast adopted Washington's policy as they established schools, took up yeoman farming practices, converted to Christianity, and built homes similar to those of their colonial neighbors.[22] These five tribes also adopted the practice of chattel slavery: holding enslaved African Americans as forced workers.[8]

For the countries of the America's to improve, banning all genital mutilation, fair redistribution of wealth from the reach to the poor, ending all conflicts. Of course I recognise that it would be unfair to somehow kick out all non-Native Americans from the Americas, and they aren't responsible for the conquests that their ancestors did, and the Americas is the only home that those non-Native Americans have.

The treaty established terms for the Cherokee Nation to cede its territory in the southeast and move west to the Indian Territory. Although the treaty was not approved by the Cherokee National Council nor signed by Principal Chief John Ross, it was amended and ratified in March 1836, and became the legal basis for the forcible removal known as the Trail of Tears carried out in 1838-1839.

The Council tried to force Jackson's hand against Georgia by suing the state in federal courts and lobbying Congress to support Cherokee sovereignty.[3] In 1832, the United States Supreme Court struck down Georgia's laws as unconstitutional in Worcester v. Georgia, ruling that only the federal government had power to deal with the Native American tribes, and the states had no power to pass legislation regulating their activities. However, the state ignored the ruling and continued to enforce the laws.[4]

I meant if you could change its history

Yes

They're as American as the people who colonized the American continent.

the question isn't if they're american its if they're rez or <state>.

I know but it's also been like 500 years
I am curious what the natives in America think about being "American"
Here they are very much contrary to the government and idea of "Canada" as a settler-colonial state

Wait until white americans realize that those asians are not "native americans" and that the real native americans were paleolithic Europeans.

I hope they deport all of those fake natives back to Asia.

If I were Donald Musk or Elon Trump I would fund deeper investigations and researches about this hyphotesis.

That's all fake news

The great spirit says the whole continent belongs to the red man. We are mighty, like the buffalo, and someday we will reclaim what is rightfully ours. Anyways, more food and liquor, please. And don’t forgot to stop by the gift shop on the way out if you’ve got any money left after hitting the slots.

The Solutrean hypothesis posits that about 21,000 years ago a group of people from the Solutré region of France, who are characterized historically by their unique lithic technique, migrated to North America along pack ice in the Atlantic Ocean.[2] Once they made it to North America, their lithic technique dispersed around the continent (c. 13,000 years ago) to provide the basis for the later popularization of Clovis lithic technology.

That's an absolutely retarded hypothesis, no Human could survive a journey across the Atlantic on pack ice.

Wait until you find that the there are tools in NorthEast America very similar to those of the solutrean culture and that the seas and temperatures were different 20.000 years ago.

Native American genetics, haplogroups, and subhaplogroups evolved in the New World. They don't exist in the Old World. If an African has a child with a European, a DNA test can detect which part is European and which part is African. You can't really do that with Native Americans. You could say they're Hapas, but they're really not. They evolved in Beringia, so they don't have Old World equivalents.

paleolithic europeans

Aka lebanese.

That's not true. There are tools in southern Africa that subjectively look Solutrean, but they're really not. One guy said they look alike. Thousands of scientists said he was wrong. Failed peer review, the gold standard, so he wrote a fiction book. Scientists poked holes all over his fake claims.

R1b1a1a2 (M269) is the second most common Y-DNA haplogroup found among Indigenous Americans after Y-DNA haplogroup Q.[66]

The R1b1a1a2 (M269) lineages commonly found in Native Americans are in most cases belonged to R1b1a1a2 (M269) subclade most common in western Europeans, and its highest concentration is found among a variety of the Algonquin speaking tribes in eastern North America.[67]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solutrean_hypothesis

decided to live on reservations

Retarded nigger

Wait until you find that the there are tools in NorthEast America very similar to those of the solutrean culture

Convergent technology, where the same circumstances and challenges lead people to come up with the same solution.

the seas and temperatures were different 20.000 years ago.

1. You have no evidence of that.
2. Pack ice is by its nature unstable, and also uncontrollable, no people alive back then had accurate geographical knowledge of the continents, and accurate astronomical knowledge, that they could navigate between continents, and they certainly didn't have any way to steer pack ice.
3. Furthermore, where are the Solutreans who landed in North America? Every single body found in North America which originated in ancient times, shares a genetic link to modern Native Americans.

Because Native Americans and European Americans have been living next to each other for 400 years.

Furthermore, the Solutreans didn't have R1b haplogroup, as that haplogroup comes from the IndoEuropeans who would migrate to Europe in 1,000-2000 BC, while the Solutreans lived 20,000 years ago.

This trade between Phoenicia and America is a Mormon fairy tale. This guy who wrote that fiction book was, no surprise, a Mormon. Gave an interview to Deseret News. When you start talking about trying to prove your cult correct, that's bad science. They're working backwards and doing wishful thinking.

The Solutreans were not Indo-European. R1b was introduced along the St. Lawrence River by the French after 1500.

That's only found among Canadian indians that intermarried with the French. R1b didn't even arrive in Europe until 5000 years ago.

R1b has never been found in any ancient North American skeleton. R1b in only found in more recent times. ie. Metis

Embarrassing spicniard

Algonquin speaking tribes in eastern North America.[67]Because it is more difficult to find samples from 20.000 years ago especially if they get no funding for an hypothesis that would change the history of the American people

In Europe they find samples from 20000 years ago, 40000 years ago, 200000 years ago, and 400000 years ago. They even find Neanderthals and Cro-Magnons.

In both continents they find dinosaurs that are even older. Many people have devoted their entire lives to proving Mormonism right, and found nothing. So they had to lie with pseudo-archeology. If what you say is true, many people would be happy, even the government.

Hmm. What are we defining Americans as? As, the term is mainly used to describe the people of the United States of America. Which I would describe as anyone who has citizenship and has been in the country for at least a single generation. The more, the better.

So a Native American or Indigenous person (how some people want them to be called), CAN be an "American" by having citizenship.

I think its by the country not the location. For example, you wouldn't call someone from Mexico an American. Or a Canadian a North American. You would just say their country of origin. Then asked on the location of said country would say, "it is IN North American".

the new meme black people started is that Natives are fake Asian immigrants White people brought to discredit Blacks and hide their indigenous status in the Americas.

Do you realize the extremely difficult issue that is finding human samples in the North East of America??

Ancient native american samples have been found because there were many cities or settlements because their migration to America was massive at a certain point (and that is why there are hundreds of different tribes all across America (these have arrived through Bering).

But finding a few settlements in the NorthEast of America is a lot more difficult because their numbers (for obvious reasons: the need to cross from Europe to America is a lot more difficult) are much lower and much older (5-10.000 years older).

But you just need 10-20 samples (when they find them) to confirm the theory. Or how do you think that European paleolithic types of tools arrived in America? Did someone from 1500 took them from Europa and put them under some rocks to archaeologists could find them 400 years later?? Or are they for real?

There is an old theory that the New World was first settled by Africans. This theory was taught as fact in Brazil, that Africans crossed the Atlantic. As DNA testing become more common, it was proved false.

The dad of mansa musa could have probably arrived to brazil, but likely was eaten by amazonian fauna

DNA testing? You mean lies invented by YTs? I'll get all my REAL info from Black people on social media

There are no "European paleolithic types of tools" found in America. Knapping and flaking evolved independently in both Europe and America. It evolved and disappeared in Europe. This claim is completely subjective. "Solutrean" material culture is also found in Africa. These claims were made by a few (very biased) people. Disputed by most scientists, archeologists, and geneticists.

took them from Europa and put them under some rocks to archaeologists could find them

Mormons have "Mormon Vision". They have a Mormon filter and see what they want to see. Yes, a lot of Mormons have been caught planting fake evidence and fabrications, putting Roman coins, or Sumerian tablets in the wrong strata. They are not trusted in the archeological community and need to be watched closely when they "volunteer" at dig sites.

Nobody will find something and just say : "oh, this is solutrean" unless there are clear evidences about it.

And what about this: "The R1b1a1a2 (M269) lineages commonly found in Native Americans are in most cases belonged to R1b1a1a2 (M269) subclade most common in western Europeans, and its highest concentration is found among a variety of the Algonquin speaking tribes in eastern North America."?

NORTHEAST tribes having R1b haplogroups.

This R1b is a bad argument. It's only found in modern Native Americans and modern Western Europeans. R1b is a recent haplogroup. It did not exist 10000 or 20000 years ago.

Nobody will find something and just say : "oh, this is solutrean"

That's exactly what these people say in both Canada and the US. They'll point to a woven basket and say "This is so advanced, only a European could have made it." They ignore the Native American woman holding the basket. "Maybe she stole it after she killed the Europeans." They ignore what's inside the basket. None of it from Europe. All New World grains, maize, and seeds.

kek, I've dated pure Indio girls and they're lovely.

I've noticed dot Indians do this a lot, as if they give a shit about the natives, or the natives want them here (they don't).

Do they only hate Anglo-Canadians or Franco-Canadians too?

SAAAAR

WE ARE THE TRUE NATIVES OF THIS LAND

WIGGER PIGGUS GO HOME

Cool story bro.
But don't forget that Japan story is similar to America.
A group of foreigners came from Korea and displaced the native Jomon population, ethnically cleansing Japan of the native pop.

Yayois like you aren't real Japanese, they are squatters and should return to Korea.