Non-americans, who is your favorite US president? you can't say trump or biden

non-americans, who is your favorite US president? you can't say trump or biden.

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Elon Musk

they did my boy dirty

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good answer.

JFK, or Ford

bill clinton

whichever one got the most amerimutts killed

Woodrow Wilson

Herbert Hoover

ford

this is such a weird answer, why?

nixon

hoover literally killed a baby

This Chad

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You can't trick tricky Dicky.

Eisenhower

Calvin Coolidge.

How come nobody said Reagan?

I don't like the Usa and its leaders.

Because he was a normal relaxed guy, not corrupt, hawkish, powerhungry or anything.
It's a recente observation i've had, when I look at my country right now. we pretty much have our Nixon in power, the next leader I want needs to be Ford. back to normalcy.
When I hear him say "My fellow Americans. our long national nightmare is over" I feel that deeply

harry s truman is highly respected in south korea
he sacrificed much of americans to protect south korea
also, the first president of south korea was woodrow wilson's favorite disciple
our first president was graduate of princeston

james polk

So Lincoln

dumpf

JFK was a filthy rich dickwad who cheated on his wife.

I like both of them for different reasons

Kamala
# THE GREAT STEAL

Reagan ruined the US.

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Johnson, because he took the decision to escalate in Vietnam (that Kennedy had already thought of, of course) and killed millions of yellow Asian bugs in the process

Nixon, he was a chud

you should be careful to specify which johnson

This board is black coded

Lyndon B Johnson obviously

lyndon johnson was a niggerlover though

you're a nigger though

Imagine if Perot won...

Bill Clinton. Pretty sure a younger Bill Clinton would've beat Trump in the US as well.

Really?

clinton was better than perot though and actually lowered the deficit.

he truly was a spiritual scandi

certified autist

liked nature and animals more than people or money

wanted to LARP as a conqueror and rode into battle with the rough riders during the Spanish-American war

gigachud

Who cares, the point of my appreciation is the genocide of Asians, not his internal policies

FDR slaughtered japs and put japanese americans in camps though
and truman dropped nukes on them

However Clinton addressed the deficit because Perot made it a key issue

that is somewhat true. my dad voted for Perot twice.

Agreed on Roosevelt
Truman however spent resources trying to save the bugs inhabiting Korea (while killing more of them in the process so it's not that bad)

zachary taylor, military man that knows nothing about politics, became president and then died

and then of course there is mr. macarthur, who could have been history's greatest chink killer

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reagan was a faggot and ruined everything that was pure in this country. yes lyndon johnson did the civil rights act and carter basically legalized all crime, but the sovl of america unironically died with Reagan.

Sad that the American establishment betrayed him right when he was about to set the course of history right
Imagine a world without yellows, heaven

this is true. reaganomics killed the american dream

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I dont know much about all US presidents but I like Richard Nixon a lot. I don't think he was a crook.

His only fault is being too big for his britches and allowing Woodrow Wilson to win by splitting the vote. Besides that, Teddy is the best.

Has to be FDR. He obliterated his opponents in 4 (four!) elections and seems like the last president that actually got something done, beyond just a couple of token legislative efforts to imitate concern for the plebs

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it’s crazy because you can see it in every aspect of american society too. look at opinion polls from the pre-reagan era on things like race relations. blacks and whites were more likely to agree that racism was not present in their lives at all in the 1980s than in the past 4 years.

people were happier in the past even if their lives were effectively the same as ours today. i’m a massive chud and even i recognize that Reagan’s legacy can be summarized by one thing: wealth inequality

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Nixon, because opened relations with China.

of those i witnessed obama. just being a charismatic, well spoken guy even if a milquetoast centrist is better than clowns like bush or orange man. also i liked how he saved the economy
my favourite 2 are fdr for basically restarting the economy after it melted down and bitchslapping the axis and truman for mocking oppenheimer

give me one policy which displayed how Obama was any different than Bush

medicare and the response to the financial crisis

Bush didn’t face a recession at any point like Obama did. and if you’re talking about his reaction, it was absolutely in line with what any establishment republican would have done (bailing out the banks and not prosecuting anyone)
also, medicare funding and protections kept growing under Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, and Obama. it only began to get cut under Trump.

establishment neocons and neolibs are indistinguishable in every aspect aside from outward messages.

true he slept on it while it was boiling and kept deregulating

Reformed Orthodox Rabbi Bill Clinton

Jefferson Davis

Obama

He clearly meant ACA tho

you can't say trump or biden

Did you really think someone would pick Biden?

I would pick Biden

he didn't do major wars, just lower level stuff like Syria and Libya

What do you like about joe?

expecting any politician to have known about a bubble in America’s most stable economic sector

i dont think you realize how few people actually saw the crash coming, especially politicians. only a select few hedge funds/banks saw it, and even then they didnt understand it/said nothing to anyone else about it really aside from a very select few

deregulation

yeah exactly, that is the policy of neolibs and neocons together. deregulate, make profit, do not prosecute. i hate bush and obama equally because they were effectively the same president both internationally and domestically speaking.

lower level stuff like Syria

Syria was not lower level during 2011-2016

nigga he led to the second largest mobilization of both the Iraq and Afghan wars. the only reason he ended Iraq was because it was deeply unpopular and would have killed his reelection in 2012.
i cant believe you guys unironically view Obama as anything but an establishment neoliberal. Obama was so unpopular at the end that he literally handed the keys to Trump, someone who literally nobody took seriously in 2015/16

He was funny as hell

unlike thirdie chuds who simp for trump who, mind you, would put all the brown shit in concentration camps if he can, i actually like FDR because at least he supported decolonization.

nigga he led to the second largest mobilization of both the Iraq and Afghan wars

what president had the largest?

i cant believe you guys unironically view Obama as anything but an establishment neoliberal

he was still much better than bush

>i dont think you realize how few people actually saw the crash coming, especially politicians. only a select few hedge funds/banks saw it, and even then they didnt understand it/said nothing to anyone else about it really aside from a very select few

why should i care? the leader takes his fair share of blame, that's why he's the leader

like big goverment and regulations

big YIKE!

Tarp was Bush's baby. 4 trillion went to people like black rock, Lehman, Goldman's sach
Obama took over and sent stimulus money mainly to people
It was just like Trump and Biden except Trump gave out 11 trillion to hedge funds and banks.

In my lifetime probably Clinton was the best then Biden then Obama. Worst is easily Trump then W then Hw then Carter then Reagan.

As far as the mortgage bubble we knew it was coming. Everyone thought it would be post 2009. Same with Trump's 3rd year when he gave out 2 trillion before covid to vanguard and black rock and black stone. He tried to juice the economy his last year then covid got him.

Republicans deregulate, pyramid schemes pop up the fuck up a national emergency response then pump trillions into their hedge fund and bank buddies. Since 1980. Literally since 1982. I've seen this same exact cycle. So get ready. Trump will ride the Biden economy for a year or two, bubbles will pop up he'll fuck up and emergency and bail outs then inflation. Again since 1982

Bush, a neocon who presided over perhaps the most bloodthirsty electorate after 9/11. i’m not making pro-Bush points, i’m just saying if you do not view everyone between Reagan-Obama as one in the same you are deluding yourself.

i know you are trolling me but i fucking hate libs more than even chuds, holy shit
they’re all the fucking same, do i need to remind you Obama bailed out every bank with federal tax dollars and THEN refused prosecution of the most obvious corruption in recent memory? what stimulus money are you even talking about?

This fucking maga idiot is looking up tarp and it was Bush's baby.
Fucking maga. I'm 48 incredibly conservative and I could not vote with those freaks how ignorant asshats. Everything that is wrong with America right there. Fat, ignorant, will lie constantly and not even realize they are lying out of ignorance
Human fucking trash

See
This is for you. I can tell you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about because you are resorting to "le questions" to make a point. You maga scum are cancer.

god damn it i know im taking the bait but i fucking hate Trump too
we need actual populism more than ever but we havent had it since fucking Nixon and probably never will again

you cant claim 2008 was such a disaster and then say Clinton, the architect of it was the best president
who started wars though?
Clinton had somalia and Yugoslavia/Serbia?
bush started two massive wars which differentiates him to a different degree of terrible

Please synth mortgages were around since the 70s, it's bush who let people like moodys and regulators swing back and forth and that was actually Cheneys thing

yeah of course. don’t forget Bush Sr. got us into Desert Storm, Obama got us into Syria while continuing Bush’s wars, and Trump/Biden equally set the stage for Ukraine and Israel.

and it was Clinton that allowed glass stegall to be overturned if banks were willing to give mortgages to minorities who wouldn't otherwise qualify

“synthetic” synthetic what you retard? synthetic CDOs? absolutely fucking not, and not only that, synthetic CDOs were inly a fraction of that. the synthetic CDO was only the basis of the corruption and the majority of that came was a product of both Bush and Clinton’s deregulation campaigns you absolute fucking retard

yeah of course. don’t forget Bush Sr. got us into Desert Storm

you guys actually won that though, even if it would have cost the same for Kuwait and SA to just give them the 10 billion instead of paying you guys, you wanted Iraq demilitarized after supporting them for the iran/iraq war

Obama got us into Syria while continuing Bush’s wars, and Trump/Biden equally set the stage for Ukraine and Israel.

Syria is no where near the disaster of Afghanistan or Iraq, it's bad but it seems like most of the stuff is black budget cia we don't even know about
Ukraine started with bush in 2008 saying they should join nato and then Obama had the coup in 2014
every president is going to be terrible and allow Israel to bomb palestinians

Yeah. You just don't know what you are talking about about hence all the "le question arguments". You just don't know.
Almost all the bubbles that popped had nothing to do with that at all and it's some ct nut shit. Don't bring that shit up with someone who lives through it.

syria wasnt as costly, but it literally gave Russia its first big win in decades and basically strengthened Moscow’s control over MENA far more than it had prior. Syria was such a horrible hack job, not to mention other major fumbles like the Obama admin’s bombing of Libya

Top choice OP.
Objectively Lincoln is th GOAT.
Pic related is my personal favourite.

Almost all the bubbles that popped had nothing to do with that at all and it's some ct nut shit. Don't bring that shit up with someone who lives through it.

ct nut shit?
there's a reason a disproportionate amount of mortgage foreclosures were minorities, Clinton deregulated banks in exchange for them giving loans to minorities
Syria wouldn't have even won if you guys didn't clear the way for iran to travel the shia crescent by removing Saddam

This

Thomas Jefferson was based.

He banged his slaves and he came to our aid during the Barbary War.

Easily Reagan. The based retard actor who killed America and turned it into something else. Here's hoping Trump does the same thing.

Obombo

owned and raped his slaves

was in france during the revolution like a pussy

passed the embargo acts which killed the fucking economy

fumbled relationships with france and britain completely

massive hypocrite in terms of role of government

aside from the declaration of independence (which admittedly isn't a small thing) what is there to like about him?

fdr

jefferson? idk

And you’re a nigger so…

Obama and LBJ were pretty based
I hope Regan is burning im hell for fucking over future generations

Either Teddy or FDR. The Roosevelts are really something beyond normal presidents, and I wished we could get one of them, but I doubt this current environment could produce great men like them.